Your Vote, Your Reasons

[Trainwreck2100]

Come on you're the one that got all mad I didn't capitalize a word. Do you know why there is a difference between jews and christians on the day of the sabbath?

Actually i got all mad that ElNono didn't capitalize a word, you just jumped in

[Trainwreck2100]

I already answered this question... want to get back to the original topic now?

I just wanted to make sure that you really said pissing on a flag wasn't disrespectful. Which you did.

[angel_luv]

Now who's mocking who?

Seriously, where does it say the Sabbath is on Sunday?

I was hoping you wanted to come to church so I could invite you to mine.
We have two services on Sunday mornings and also one on Wednesday nights.

Traditionally, I believe Jewish people celebrate their Sabbath on Saturday.
I don't know how or why so many Christian denomination formed the tradition of attending church on Sunday.
Maybe someone else can shed light on that.
As for me, I believe what matters to God is you set aside time to go to church to worship God, be taught the Scripture, and fellowship with and encourage other Christians.

They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer.
Everyone was filled with awe, and many wonders and miraculous signs were done by the apostles.

All the believers were together and had everything in common.
Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need. Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts,
praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved

Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

A specific day is not specified other than the Day, by which the author means the Day when Christ returns.

I attend church every week on Sunday mornings ( sometimes both the 9 and 11 o'clock service; always at 11,) Wednesday night ( mid week service), Saturday ( youth service) and every other Monday ( Womens' Bible study).


I do this because I love God and absolutely love my church.

In my whole life, I have never encountered a more faith filled, loving, supportive, and joy filled group than my fellow church members.
It is not to say that we all don't have bad days- we do. But we all help each other out like a family would.
I plan my life around my church's services... I love going that much.

[ElNono]

I just wanted to make sure that you really said pissing on a flag wasn't disrespectful. Which you did.

I didn't say it's not disrespectful. I said *I* personally don't think it is. I don't generalize. Everybody is en led to their opinion.

[Trainwreck2100]

I didn't say it's not disrespectful. I said *I* personally don't think it is. I don't generalize. Everybody is en led to their opinion.

Si the cliff notes to this are
:It's not disrespectful to piss on the flag

[ElNono]

Originally you said you respected my beliefs. When in actuality all you respect is our RIGHT to believe what we want. That's not the same as respecting our beliefs cause if you respected it you wouldn't talk about it. what i'm trying to get through to you is that you don't respect our beliefs but our right. which is fine but don't go saying you respect our belief when obviously you don't. what i've been trying to get at is that you don't respect our beliefs

I meant your right to believe from the get go. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough.

I never assumed that you respected any part of my beliefs, but you said when you are not respecting my beliefs, just that i have the right to believe.

I respect your right to believe and exercise your religion. I couldn't care less about whatever your religion is.

[ElNono]

Fine then to you pissing on the flag isn't direspectful.

I don't think I would personally use it as a means to protest, but I won't be offended if somebody does that.

[Trainwreck2100]

I meant your right to believe from the get go. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough.

so then we're both right

[ElNono]

Si the cliff notes to this are
:It's not disrespectful to piss on the flag

You keep on editing your posts... think before you post...
The cliff notes to this are: ElNono doesn't think that pissing on the flag is disrespectful

[ElNono]

so then we're both right

You ask me to spell god with an uppercase g, and you tell me it's disrespectful if I don't. I tell you I respect your right to believe, but not your religion, thus I'll write god whichever way I please.

How are we both right again?

[Trainwreck2100]

You ask me to spell god with an uppercase g, and you tell me it's disrespectful if I don't. I tell you I respect your right to believe, but not your religion, thus I'll write god whichever way I please.

How are we both right again?

you didn't tell me "I respect you're right to believe" Your words were "I respect your belief" you were arguing that you respected my right to belief which i acknowledged and I was arguing you didn't respect my beliefs, which you acknowledged.

Maybe if you went and edited your post before you made it we wouldn't have gone around like that

[ElNono]

you didn't tell me "I respect you're right to believe" Your words were "I respect your belief" you were arguing that you respected my right to belief which i acknowledged and I was arguing you didn't respect my beliefs, which you acknowledged.

I see... yes, we're on the same page on that now.

[Trainwreck2100]

I see... yes, we're on the same page on that now.

so then we're both right

[ElNono]

so then we're both right

both right on what dude?

[Shastafarian]

this back and forth is pretty funny

[ploto]

Think of how people are as parents- they want their kids to have food, education and get good jobs but also delight in buying their kids cars, clothes, electronics.

If a parent desires all the best for his/ her offspring, how much more our benevolent God!

But see that is the thing- the best for my child has little to do with material things. Of course I desire adequate food, shelter, housing, etc. but beyond that the joys I have in giving to my child are rarely the things that cost money- like a car or electronics. Doing the best for my child does not usually involve handing him things- but teaching him how to do it himself and have the personal satisfaction of his own accomplishments. When I am patient with my child on a tough day that is a far greater gift that a video game. When I am understanding about issues with which he deals as he gets older, that is far more important that clothes. Likewise., I am not intent on asking God to give me stuff but to forgive me when I am weak.

[angel_luv]

But see that is the thing- the best for my child has little to do with material things. Of course I desire adequate food, shelter, housing, etc. but beyond that the joys I have in giving to my child are rarely the things that cost money- like a car or electronics. Doing the best for my child does not usually involve handing him things- but teaching him how to do it himself and have the personal satisfaction of his own accomplishments. When I am patient with my child on a tough day that is a far greater gift that a video game. When I am understanding about issues with which he deals as he gets older, that is far more important that clothes. Likewise., I am not intent on asking God to give me stuff but to forgive me when I am weak.

I agree with you, and would add this to it.

I believe God loves you so very much and so not want only to forgive and instruct you, but also desires to exceedingly and abundantly bless- because you are God's child and generosity is in His character.
Also, I believes God blesses us with abundance both to give us an example of how as well as the ability to bless others.

[ratm1221]

God has been very gracious to me. He has answered all my prayers, even the ones I said once and then shoved to the back of my mind.

So if you lost your job, got your legs chopped off, and you had to live in the street where people would spit on you on a daily basis... who's fault would it be? God, or the devil?

And the scripture you post doesn't mean much to me. It's poetry that could be interpreted a dozen, maybe even 100, different ways.

If I say "your heart is a flower," am I saying that your heart is physically a flower?

[LnGrrrR]

Only God knows the heart.

But I have heard Bruce Bowen give his testimony at the Spurs' annual faith nights and my faith in God was strengthened by Bruce's testimony.

Good for you then. Again, I have no problem with faith that gives people strength. All I ask is that you choose wisely when you vote, and reflect that your choice will have an effect on all of us, even those who don't follow God. Prayer is fine, but also, researching other positions the candidates hold is not bad either.

[rascal]

angel_luv: Have you reconsidered your assertion that Obama may be the anti-Christ?

What are some of the attributes that the anti-Christ will have? I heard somewhere I don't know where but he was suppose to be alive today and come from a middle eastern country. Come across as good in the beginning and be in power for 7 years. Fits right in with a two term president, the years that is.

Does he come from a middle eastern country? Does it have to be a man or can it be a woman?

[SnakeBoy]

Obama IS the antichrist. I saw it on youtube.

[CuckingFunt]

Good stuff.

[Winehole23]

Vid at link did not load. brb.

[Winehole23]

Recheck yielded ya no sirve. Researching.

[Bartleby]

Good stuff.

I thought about this thread during that segment last night. angel_luv is in good company.