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    Mason + Ginobili are gonna be a dangerous pair. Both fast, fearless and clutch.

    Props to Vaughn. He always does his job to the fullest.

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    Officiating? I thought it was one sided to the Spurs? Guess it depends on who you're going for. BTW, you guys scared the out of Dragic, hope he's not traumatized.
    There were bad calls on both sides. Dragic just flinched right now thinking Jacque Vaughn is stealing the ball from him again. j/k j/k Hes a rookie and he survived so he should be stronger from it.

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    OK, put any spin on it that is needed, but Bonner in the second half was straight up awful on both ends of the floor. But Pop kept putting him in.

    He has GOT to have photos of Pop doing something with a wine bottle when they were over in Europe.
    LOL...thats funny but we only had 3 big men. Tim cant play every single minute.

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    Pop should have gone to Farmer and play more small ball vs. playing Bonner that much on the second half.


    Yeah, that would have worked wonders against Amare and Shaq.

    Glad you aren't the coach.

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    I am beginning to wonder if people watch the games? Some of the reactions are crazy. These same people are going to be stroking Bonner once he has a good game on Friday.

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    The only major officiating gaffe... with many of the other 'usual' calls/non-calls evening out... was not calling a flagrant foul on Shaq for raising his forearm to Udoka's face (the intention was clear).

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    The only major officiating gaffe... with many of the other 'usual' calls/non-calls evening out... was not calling a flagrant foul on Shaq for raising his forearm to Udoka's face (the intention was clear).
    True. I did not think the officials did a bad job. But that call should have been made.

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    The only major officiating gaffe... with many of the other 'usual' calls/non-calls evening out... was not calling a flagrant foul on Shaq for raising his forearm to Udoka's face (the intention was clear).
    I wonder sometimes if people who comment on here really watch the games closely or are drinking beer / playing the Xbox while the game is going in the background, or shooting pool at the bar while the game is playing 30 feet above them. And then come on here and feel qualified to share their "expert"
    opinions.

    There was defenitely some strange calls (*cough* favoritism) going on in this game. And specifically it was Violet Palmer & Bennet Salvatore that were behind it. The other ref did a fine job from what I saw. But Salvatore I already knew was going to be a problem going into this game. I remember him from last year, as the brill-creamed silver haired guy. He was always the first to nail the spurs asses any chance he could for any infraction. So no big surprise really with him. The one that I didn't expect was Palmer, who's calls last night would make one think Stoudemire was her true love and main squeeze. So now we got 2 refs out of 3 who aren't playing fair, and that's a big problem.

    Now in regards to the your so called "major" gaffe, I thought that was hilarious watching Shaq get frustrated and knock Udoka on his butt. Even Jeff Van Gundy made light of it, saying Udoka is gonna make Kurt Thomas get in there and take the foul next. It was ing funny, Udoka was not hurt or injured, and the refs played it off the right away in that instance IMO.

    It was the 1000 smaller gaffes the officials committed 98% of which oddly went against the spurs that is the real problem.

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    Spurs looked alive out there. When Phoenix beats us, it's usually because our shots didn't fall. That's all that happened.

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    good read.

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    Thanks for your thoughts Timvp. I look forward to seeing them through-out the season. For a season opener there's only so much we can take in. had to remind myself not to jump to any early conclusions. Considering how thin the spurs were in the big man department and the tough opponent they were up against, this game had me upbeat about the season coming up. All you can say is that the suns seemed more desperate for the win and spurs more intent about finding out about themselfs.

    The biggest plus for me was how impressive Mason looked. The guy just seemed so cool on both ends of the court. I Liked how selective he was with his shot, no pressing for a first timer but they all looked to be in his comfort zone. Tim, Manu and Tony have to feel good knowing they have a teammate such as Mason out on the perimeter to deliver. While Pop got to be content he has a player that will play adequate defense with-out losing any ground on offense. Mason doesn't look like he gonna suffer much from first season blues like many other past and present players.

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    I have said this in another thread but..
    We didn't lose because of Bonner, or even that Manu is out.
    We also didn't lose because of the officiating tonight.
    We lost because the suns exploited our greatest weakness which is our defensive presence in the paint. We really need to get some intimidation in there or else I see every team using this area to beat us.
    Timmy just cant hold the paint all by himself...
    That's exactly why a few of us wanted Watkins. I thought he could give us 5-10 spot minutes a game against teams with athletic bigs.
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    Spurs looked alive out there. When Phoenix beats us, it's usually because our shots didn't fall. That's all that happened.

    This is true and it was only game #1 of the new season

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    I am beginning to wonder if people watch the games? Some of the reactions are crazy. These same people are going to be stroking Bonner once he has a good game on Friday.
    I haven't liked Bonner since I first saw him play for the Spurs.

    Also, are you ing kidding me about getting on the Bonner bandwagon if he has a good game Friday? He's going to have to 50 good games before I say he's any good. LOL one good game is not going to make all the Bonner haters love him.

    btw I do not hate Matt Bonner or anything like that. I actually like the guy. I just don't like his game or what he does out on the court for the Spurs. Even if he has a ton of good games I still don't know if I'd really want him out there in critical situations or crunch time.

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    Also, are you ing kidding me about getting on the Bonner bandwagon if he has a good game Friday? He's going to have to 50 good games before I say he's any good. LOL one good game is not going to make all the Bonner haters love him.
    Refreshing that you recognize it. But 50 games won't be enough. Actually, it'll never happen because if he fills up the stat sheet someone will about his defensive lapse, and if he has no defensive lapses someone will mention the turnover that he caused, but didn't actually get credited for, or the time that the all-NBA player he had to cover scored on him or made a play.

    Frankly, if he goes for an entire game without looking to the ing sideline waiting to get the hook I'll call that a good game. That'll be a good start.

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    When Bonner is in he moment, he plays well. When he starts questioning himself he starts screwing up. Some consistent playing time would do him some good.

    Thanks for the recap.

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    I must be the only Spurs fan who was fine with Parker and Duncan shooting those threes. In my view, both players had it rolling. Duncan was shooting lights out from the perimeter. Parker was hitting practically everything he shot. Down three points with under 40 seconds to play, I'll take that chance.

    Maybe if Manu were healthy, I'd rather him taking that shot. But when Pop would have drawn up a play for Finley or Mason, I don't think the Parker and Duncan shots were much lower percentage-wise. If you go for two, it would have been nice to play for a stop but the Spurs were getting absolutely no stops. If you foul, Steve Nash is going to the line.

    If you give Parker and Duncan an open look apiece to hit a three, chances are one of them would hit it.

    Besides, the classicness of Duncan hitting the three to tie the game would have been off the charts

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    Suns didn't look too good last night. Bad omen?

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    I must be the only Spurs fan who was fine with Parker and Duncan shooting those threes. In my view, both players had it rolling. Duncan was shooting lights out from the perimeter. Parker was hitting practically everything he shot. Down three points with under 40 seconds to play, I'll take that chance.
    You're definitively no the only one no....

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    Suns didn't look too good last night. Bad omen?

    They don't match up well with Paul's Hornets...

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    Phoenix was 0-4 vs. New Orleans last year..

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