Obama, like Clinton and Reagan before him, is a smart politician who understands what it takes to get elected in a democratic society. Dukakis, Dole, Nader, and countless others simply didn't get it done because they were either telling the truth too plainly, stiff as a board, or insulting to a huge part of the population... as much as people complain about politicians, they also punish them for many of the characteristics that they don't care about or even find alluring in rock stars, authors, athletes, and many others. A presdential candidate nowadays can't even say something simple like I don't find NASCAR interesting without losing millions of votes. Managing a presidential campaign is a huge project, and like all huge projects, must be handled carefully. Unfortunately, handling carefully involves lots of public relations work, slickly avoiding certain questions and issues, and other not so forthcoming or noble necessities. That's life in a democracy, like it or not.
I disagree.
Obama fundamentally believes in the major policies he wishes to pursue. For example, he has spent his life trying to fight for the poor and disenfranchised and his tax proposals are a reflection of this.
Obama is the last Democratic candidate that I can remember since Dukakis who ran as an unabashed liberal.
That's because he's running as the Anti-Bush.
Again, if it helped his campaign to have a ton of conservative views, he'd be the first one to make the jump.
Don't be naive.
If he was in it for the money he would have continued to be lawyer. Are you being serious? The Pres only makes 400k.
Clinton is not even making 400k anymore now that he's retired He was even the first black president!
oh wait....
So who here has helped one of their aunts, uncles, or cousins to a substantial degree? Let's say at least $10,000.
For a niece or nephew, I imagine that happens often, raising a kid relative for various reasons. But for adult relatives? Let's hear how generous you were just to show how mean-spirited Obama is.
Don't be so cynical to assume every candidate is only in this for the fame and prestige.
Do you, as common with many people in this predicament, revert back to comparing your Obama to the lack of actions from others to justify the flaws in your Obama's persona?
Last edited by Anti.Hero; 10-31-2008 at 08:37 PM.
First you have to confirm that it is a flaw -- that his aunt has asked him for help and he has refused.
We're all waiting for you to do that.
Obama would certainly alter his rhetoric in a more conservative direction if that's what it took, and change some of his policy proposals at the margins, but I highly doubt he would turn around and run as W's best buddy if Bush had a 58% approval rating.
Adjusted Gross Income from Obama during 2004-2006 = $2,846,579
$10,000 is ~.4% of that.
Yes we can.
I got you chump.
.4%.
Obama Derek Fisher'd his auntie!
No, you didn't.
Should we hold Obama to a standard that we don't follow? If you want to hold candidates to high moral standards, shouldn't McCain's divorce disqualify him in your eyes? After this wasn't his aunt or his uncle, but his very own wife and a "'til death do us part" pledge.
Obama's aunt gave his campaign money, so she obviously doesn't want any from Obama.
And declaring something of yours to be spur-worthy guarantees that is, in fact, not.
*Raises hand*
I've sent money to family members I've never met. Helping out relatives who live in third world countries whose poor people live in conditions that make American ghettos look like Beverly Hills isn't being generous ... it's pretty much common sense.
Don't forget the money. And I said 99% ... not every.
Obama would do anything he thought he needed to do to get elected. Thinking otherwise is naivety to the highest degree.
He wants to hold us to a standard that he does not follow.
I would love to hold Government to the same standard as most businesses.
I see Obama during this informercial tell an old man that he has earned his pension plan. The company PROMISED him his pension plan and this man should HOLD THEM TO THIS PROMISE.
My reaction, you (government) first.
Obama drifted to the right right after the primaries were over.
Unless you're willing to say he'd switch parties and run as a Republican under conservative orthodoxy, you're wrong. Politicians grant themselves a wide degree of flexibility in appealing to the electorate, but you wouldn't see Bush immediately bring the troops home if he were running this year for an eligible third term.
A story on some of Obama's family in Kenya.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MNCV13INNO.DTL
For about the 100th time on this forum...
Quit trying to hold up W's incompetence as an excuse for the suckage that is Obama. Damn, I'm tired of it.
W is a failure. We get it. That shouldn't be a free pass for Obama being the hypocritical SOB that he is, no matter what you Dems want to believe.
Lame.
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