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No way, Calzaghe will get the unaimous decision
Jones will win this by KO, if he sticks and moves.
No way, Calzaghe will get the unaimous decision
I would go with Calzaghe but then again I picked Pavlik to handle Hopkins. Hard to picture Jones winning this fight though. I doubt I'll buy it.
I was hoping this economic slide would keep some of these fights from going on PPV but it doesn't seem to make a difference.
I am a Calzaghe fan so I am going with him. RJ was pound for pound THE best fighter in his prime. Problem is... he's not in his prime anymore.
I think Calzaghe wins a decision but expect RJJ to make it harder than expected and land some really good shots. Eventhough RJJ is not in his prime anymore, I think he still has enough hand speed and power to make things difficult for Calzaghe. Plus, keep in mind, the age difference between the 2 fighters is only a few years, Calzaghe is no spring chicken. His last fight with Hopkins showed he can get caught (1st round knockdown)...
Jones in my opinion pissed away his legacy over money by refusing to fight guys in their prime. It was his way or no way and I have a hard time calling him one of the best of the best considering how many times he ducked big time fights over 10-20% splits.
Calzaghe by KO.
RJ was my favorite athlete of all time but he isn't as quick as he once was but he hasn't figured that out. He sticks his chin out and thinks he can still dodge a hook without blocking but he's not fast enough to do that anymore. And anyone that has watched what happens to him when he catches a hook on the chin, knows that Calzaghe just needs one punch to win.
Jones is washed up. boxing is almost dead.
As much as I would like to agree with that the PPV numbers say its alive and doing quite well.
I don't see how but I guess if you charge enough and have just enough fans willing to pay for it you can get by.
You would think it would and Hopkins and Pavlick did reportedly only 190 thousand PPV buys. UFC events routinely do 600 thousand or more. Ortiz and Liddell 2 did over a mil buys. UFC 91 Brock and Randy is projecting to do about the same. Fighters won't be getting any huge chunks of PPV buys with the buy rates this poor.. Calzaghe and Jones years ago would have done bg numbers.
Last edited by dbreiden83080; 11-03-2008 at 05:06 PM.
i'm a huge supporter of the sport and don't have any alterior motive for wishing the sport any failure. PPV numbers are still good because the old vets like hopkins, jones & oscar can still draw numbers. Once the 'ol vets retire the sport is going to have some trouble.
Almost but not quite...the buys from Pacqiou-Delahoya in December could sustain it for years.
Margerito-Cotto had huge numbers as well...people were probably saying the same thing when Ali retired, Tyson went to jail and the middleweight era ended (Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Leonard). New superstars are always stepping up to take the place of the old vets. I wouldn't be suprised to see Chris Arreola end up being the next big thing...
Agreed, had he fought and beat Hopkins while Hopkins was still middleweight champion, before he ballooned up to fight Ruiz for the heavyweight le, his legacy would be cemented. Although the heavyweight le was a remarkable accomplishment, it pretty much ruined him. Antonio Tarver and Glenn Johnson exposed it within 5 fights after...
Ortiz Liddell didn't do no 2mil and brock and randy won't do that either. Only boxing has surpased the 2mil figure and at much higher prices.
Oscar vs Pacman will blow away Randy vs Brock.
me criticizing boxing doesn't give jerkoff mma fans room to ejaculate.
here are the remaining guys who can pull numbers in the US:
Oscar
Hopkins
Jones
Cotto
Margaritto when facing a good opponent
Pavlik
Calzaghe
Pacman
Of those guys, 50% of them will retire soon.
We need to start doing some Vbookie stuff on these fights.
No it did over a million buys and Brock and Randy will do maybe about the same.. Wasn't the point of my argument, NEXT....
Probably will, that is the star power of Oscar but that is also the problem, there are no more Oscars left in Boxing. He's saying this might be his last fight. My point was boxing doesn't have the consistancy of PPV buy-rates anymore, the star power is dwindling. something you ignored in favor of another temper tantrum...
How is this about you, jerk-off? And my comments in the Pavlick and Hopkins thread, clearly show i am a fan of the sport and know a load about the sport and it's history. So take your "I am just a jerk-off MMA fan garbage somewhere else", Okay....
I would add Ricky Hatton, Israel Vasquez, both Marquez brothers, Paul Williams, Juan Diaz, and the Klitschko brothers...assuming they are fighting legit compe iion.
Also, there are fighters coming up that could be future stars like Yuriokis Gamboa, Andre Berto, JCC Jr, Ronald Hearns, Joel Julio...it only takes 1 great fight from any of them to spark interest in the boxing world.
"Oscar" Biggest star in Boxing money in the bank until he retires
"Hopkins" Depends who he is fighting, Pavlick and Hopkins did mediocre PPV buys...
"Jones" I don't expect big PPV buys for his fight with Calzaghe either, Roy is way past his day..
"Cotto" Yes but he needs a big name opponent..
"Margaritto when facing a good opponent" Agreed he, needs a great opponent since he is still largely unknown to the masses even after his last fight...
"Pavlik" Will be fighting on HBO for the forseeable future after the beating he got from Bernard. His future is bleak right now as there is nobody with sex appeal at 160 for him to fight.. No Superfights coming for Kelly anytime soon.
"Calzaghe" Not really, he is not a big star in the US. He needs a big name opponent to sell the fight. Calzaghe spent waaaay too many years not fighting in the US, it cost him a large chunk of his legacy..
"Pacman" Yes Manny is a star, people love watching his fights..
I said interest in the US because fighters like Hatton and the Klitschko will generate interest outside the states. However, I get your point there are more boxers out there with potential. Chad Dawson is another potential star.
Last edited by 2centsworth; 11-03-2008 at 06:13 PM.
not big ppv draws because they are not getting the exposure.
200 to 300 ppv buys is still very good coin for boxers.
Can't believe I forgot Marquez and Diaz.
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