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    yeah -- you pretty much are -- only this version of Woodrow Wilson will allow blacks to apply at Princeton and probably won't support segregation of federal facilities.
    As always, I take your foaming-at-the-mouth Red Scare analysis with all the care and diligence it requires.

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    The quote about a national security force, however, does give me pause.
    why don't you expand on this?

    because something gives angel luv pause.

    what do you got in your head about it?

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    what do you got in your head about it?
    What you THINK I've got in my head; but that is not reasonable; which I fully admit.

    SO, I don't know what to think. Did Obama misspeak? It's not a question about what I have in MY head; what did he have in HIS head when he suggested we ought to have a security force, AS POWERFUL as our military - in this country?

    I don't know; and he hasn't said it since.

    Now, if Cheney had ever said that, I'm betting we would have heard more about it.

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    Gotta have my fun.

    The quote about a national security force, however, does give me pause.

    Any of you Obamaicans know wtf he is talking about?
    It could mean he wants to form a liberal Gestapo charged with rounding up all of Sarah Palin's "real" Americans into a re-education camp...or it could just be a typically vague pre-election fundraising speech, and all he's really after is more funding for nuke detection at ports. I vote based on personality and temperment, not stated campaign speeches. After all, if I took everything a Presidential candidate said as gospel, I would have had to vote for the 2000 candidate who said this:

    "If we're an arrogant nation, they'll resent us; if we're a humble nation, but strong, they'll welcome us. And our nation stands alone right now in the world in terms of power, and that's why we've got to be humble, and yet project strength in a way that promotes freedom."

    "I'm not so sure the role of the United States is to go around the world and say this is the way it's got to be. We can help. And maybe it's just our difference in government, the way we view government. I mean I want to empower people. I want to help people help themselves, not have government tell people what to do. I just don't think it's the role of the United States to walk into a country and say, we do it this way, so should you."
    ...and we all know how that turned out, don't we?

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    He's talking about his community service initiatives.

    Here's a column on it, and it's by no means in favor of the idea, but a key quote for anyone who is taking the worst case interpretation of the statement:

    The entire plan is breathtaking in its scope. But it does not, as at least one internet writer has suggested, portend a "giant police force." It would be easier to rebut if it did. As it is, it's silly stuff born of naively fanciful dreams.
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/...nal_secur.html

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    It could mean he wants to form a liberal Gestapo charged with rounding up all of Sarah Palin's "real" Americans into a re-education camp...or it could just be a typically vague pre-election fundraising speech, and all he's really after is more funding for nuke detection at ports. I vote based on personality and temperment, not stated campaign speeches. After all, if I took everything a Presidential candidate said as gospel, I would have had to vote for the 2000 candidate who said this:



    ...and we all know how that turned out, don't we?

    Yes, let's let this thread devolve into a discussion of 9/11, - lies getting us into Iraq; why don't we bring up Monica Lewinski while we're at it. We've never had a thread about that before.

    The speaches are meaningless?

    What the candidates are saying doesn't matter.

    Then you think what Obama says and what he is going to do could be completely different.

    You sound like Sean Hannity.

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    He's talking about his community service initiatives.

    Here's a column on it, and it's by no means in favor of the idea, but a key quote for anyone who is taking the worst case interpretation of the statement:



    http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/...nal_secur.html

    He said "National Security Force" but meant "Community Service Initiatives"?

    I've probably led too sheltered of a life. Maybe he speaking ebonics or something. It gets lost in the translation.

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    Yes, let's let this thread devolve into a discussion of 9/11, - lies getting us into Iraq; why don't we bring up Monica Lewinski while we're at it. We've never had a thread about that before.

    The speaches are meaningless?

    What the candidates are saying doesn't matter.

    Then you think what Obama says and what he is going to do could be completely different.

    You sound like Sean Hannity.
    I think every President-elect has a plan, and then the very first thing they do when they step into the Oval Office is get punched in the mouth.

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    Now, if Cheney had ever said that, I'm betting we would have heard more about it.
    not from him. he would've said " you" and "i don't care".

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    Maybe he speaking ebonics or something.
    and there you have it ladies and gentlemen. you can't keep that caged up forever.

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    and there you have it ladies and gentlemen. you can't keep that caged up forever.
    why is that funny ? I guess you are implying racism ? bigotry ? -- typical..

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    and there you have it ladies and gentlemen. you can't keep that caged up forever.
    Keep what caged up?

    Clever, racially tinged humor?

    Guilty.

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    101A,

    Oh snap! You one crazy cracker! You're one funny honky!

    Racially tinged, yes. Clever... eh, debatable.

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    101A,

    Oh snap! You one crazy cracker! You're one funny honky!

    Racially tinged, yes. Clever... eh, debatable.
    only minorities speak ebonics ? and aren't you racially tinged with your reply?

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    only minorities speak ebonics ? and aren't you racially tinged with your reply?
    smh

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    only minorities speak ebonics ? and aren't you racially tinged with your reply?

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    only minorities speak ebonics ? and aren't you racially tinged with your reply?
    I used to think BRHornets was the most ignorant member here.

    You my friend, take the tiara home on this one. Youre a real piece of work.

    Why dont you go dig a hole in the ground and climb in while you wait for the end of the world, eh? I mean it isnt that much different than having your head in the sand for your entire life, now is it?

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    so does that mean only minorities speak ebonics as you understand it ? I mean if you go off of the original intent on the meaning of the word - then it only applys to African Americans ...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebonics

    but does the urban understanding only encompass the color of the skin ? Can a white boy copy the urban hip hop black guy - adopt his mannerisms and speech ? Will he be speaking Ebonics or is it just stupid English if one is white ?
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    so does that mean only minorities speak ebonics ?
    He still doesn't get it.

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    so does that mean only minorities speak ebonics ?
    What kind of dumb- , ignorant question is that?

    What next, do only Chinese people speak Chinese?

    Is this your idea of intelligence, or did you study under Elmer Fudd himself?

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    I used to think BRHornets was the most ignorant member here.

    You my friend, take the tiara home on this one. Youre a real piece of work.

    Why dont you go dig a hole in the ground and climb in while you wait for the end of the world, eh? I mean it isnt that much different than having your head in the sand for your entire life, now is it?
    dang, he must be really stupid to get this response from you. you're normally more diplomatic

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    He said "National Security Force" but meant "Community Service Initiatives"?

    I've probably led too sheltered of a life. Maybe he speaking ebonics or something. It gets lost in the translation.
    It really makes plenty of sense if you read the article.

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    dang, he must be really stupid to get this response from you. you're normally more diplomatic
    I honestly dont think he would "get it" if I used my more subtle powers of degradation.

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    I thought Democrats generally believed the U.S. spent too much on the military. How is it possible their candidate is seeking to create some kind of massive but secret national police force that will be even bigger than the Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force put together?
    It's so secret, he publicly announced it.

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    so does that mean only minorities speak ebonics as you understand it ? I mean if you go off of the original intent on the meaning of the word - then it only applys to African Americans ...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebonics

    but does the urban understanding only encompass the color of the skin ? Can a white boy copy the urban hip hop black guy - adopt his mannerisms and speech ? Will he be speaking Ebonics or is it just stupid English if one is white ?
    He STILL doesn't get it.

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