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So basically you just proved my point that God is the equivalent to a box of rocks and that its belief based not reality based. Whereas you could just as easily find the power within yourself to seek help rather than something else because its just as viable. Thanks!
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No it's not a power within myself, I would be getting my power from the box of rocks. The thing is to find a power greater than yourself. I choose it to be God.
You're getting the power from the rocks because you....again YOU gave it value where no value previously existed so it was created within yourself. Nothing else gave the box of rocks power or value YOU did. Just as easily as you could have handed the power to yourself you chose to invalue something else.
It all starts with you.
My faith is ROCK solid and I don't give a hoot what all the naysayers say. Not today, not tomorrow, not ever. Carry on.
And my last intervention was with one of my friends ex's before I got married.
back to basics, 12 steps and a "Higher Power" has a good track record and I have seen it work in my own life. If you have another solution more power to you. Please start a recovery group based on your knowledge. However, there's no reason for you to try to on 12 steps to try to validate your own opinion. If you have another way, fantastic.
I think the main thing is your off the drugs regardless how it happens ...unless your on good drugs
those 2 bigs ones look like my fried mecco
I'm not ting on its effectiveness I'm pointing out how sad it is that society has evolved into a world where people are totally incapable of being responsible for their own actions...so much so that smoke and mirrors type solutions dominate recovery efforts.
Off the wall point:
Plain and simple they legalized the wrong drug. Weed is a thousand times safer than booze and wouldn't take half the rocovery efforts to get off. If any.
I also want to point out how under appreciated the Stacie troll is.
The videos I posted above peg AA's success rate at about 5%, the same as the success rate for alcoholics who don't use it.
Don't tell AA that!
Nice work Friendo.
i don't get video on my computer, but whatever. I have no agenda in the advice I offered. to each his own.
I was told talking about drugs here at spurstalk was not permitted that is what i was told....
Damn right.
well then your not the one who is in trouble. Its the guy who started talking about it first
I was told school yard smack was not tolerated here at spurstalk that is what i was told....
I was told school yard smack was not tolerated here at spurstalk that is what i was told....
who keeps telling you all this milton!
Didn't you get the memo?
Those who believe, believe. Those who don't, don't. Quit trying to convince each other that "your" way is right and "their" way is wrong.
And for God's sake, whatever works for you, works!!!
I'm simply pointing out that this society has relegated itself to a healing process based in myth and legend rather than be responsible for their own actions. This is a pretty fundamentally wrong aspect of being human.
Its like your kids coming home and telling you that its not a big deal that they drink and smoke and generally act like bufoons because at some point they'll turn themselves over to a higher power and be healed of their wild ways.
You'd tell them to STFU....grow up and be responsible and that its up to them to act accordingly.
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