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Manu's out until December-ish.
The top teams in the West are a year more experienced, healthier and/or added a new impact player. (Don't make me go into the specifics again.)
The Spurs obviously can't or are unwilling to bring in an impact player. The team is very old and some would argue, ineffective.
Fvck it. Let's tank!
Look at the Spurs' track record in seasons where they really sucked... it netted us not one, but two #1 all-franchise lottery picks.
Again, not your run-of-the-mill #1s.... we are talking about MVP-caliber centers that you can build a team around for a decade!
So I say pack it in early this year. Even with the Big 3 at 100%, I don't see the Spurs getting past the Jazz or Rockets and certainly not the Lakers or Hornets this year.
Tank now. Hope for another #1. Come back next year with the Big Three at full strength in Duncan's latter part of his career. Give it another try with a lottery pick in the starting lineup.
It will be beautiful. Do it now instead of pathetically dragging out 3-5 more painful playoff appearances.
Tank and begin the next era, while still winning.
It's time to start thinking about a succession strategy here. The lottery is how the Spurs get good.
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They do have a history for doing that.
Who owns our first round pick?
If our first rounder is lottery protected, and nothing is done to improve this team's rebounding and defense by the trade deadine...I would be all for it.
Cheater mothr fu....!
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Why is this idea so outlandish?
Would you rather let Duncan carry the burden of a lackluster lineup for the next 4-5 years and then wind up in the lottery...
... or tank this year and go into the lottery while we still would have 3-4 more years of Duncan?
Remember that David Robinson guy? If the Spurs don't tank the year he hurt his back, then there's no Duncan and no les.
We'd be the team formerly known as the Sonics right about now. Or worse. They made deal to get Ray Allen a few years ago. We can't so things like that.
Tank! It the only way to stay good.
3 games in...unbelievable.
How long did it take to lose 2 at home last season?
What nerve of you and the front office to lose like we did last year and have the audacity to tread water, while Horry and Barry moved on.
That takes b@lls.
So let me get this straight, Ghost: you want to take the season so that we can maybe get an impact player in the draft, despite the fact that we have:
One of the league's top five big men
One of the league's top five point guards
One of the league's top five swingmen
ON THE SAME TEAM?!?
Name a time in franchise history when we have had a core like that. David Robinson couldn't even dream of having that type of support from two other guys, much less the nice selection of role players Duncan has. Seriously, have you forgotten how far we've come as a franchise?
I don't think we were far off last year, so conventional wisdom suggests that we don't need wholesale changes. Just make a smart deal or two, but nothing over the top. And we certainly don't need to tank the season! But most fans here already knew that.
The spurs 1st round pick is lottery protected, otherwise it belongs to the sonics..
Whatever. You are a disgrace and bring nothing worth discussing to the table. I might have to consider that ignore function after all.
Phooooooooooooooo.
I'll humor you, Ad. What is the likelihood that the front office can make one "smart deal"?
I mean, what do the Spurs have to offer?
Tank. The big three have been matched by the Lakers, Hornets and Rockets and maybe even the Jazz "big three."
The difference is that our other players are putrid in comparison. I'll give you the Jazz... AK-47 is 6th man. But You can match the Spurs big 3 with the other top contenders and any advantage the Spurs might have (barring injury and age) is offset by the terrible supporting cast.
Tank 08-09
The problem with the tank this year is there aren't any Franchise prospects, so far.
This looks like another "Andrew Bogut #1 draft pick" year.
Maybe Ricky Rubio will be in the draft, there's 1 talented high schooler (Brandon Jennings) that went to Europe and maybe he'll be back. But it looks to be a very slim draft.
Nothing worth discussing?
The truth hurts, b1tch.
0-2 at home for a proud franchise.
I deal in facts.
Let's just wait till Manu comes back and see what happens...
Also, I hope Vaughn, Bonner and Finley won't play extended minutes anymore :S
Wait until Manu comes back and hope 3/4ths of the regular rotation is benched by old man Pop?
Pass the chronic.
I almost tanked one time, when I was 5 years old, but no. I said a stern word to myself, I toughened-up and I did not wet my pants even though it would have felt good.
But, if you think about it, the Spurs don't need another "franchise" player. But, if they get one of the best small forwards or centers in the draft, even if he's not a franchise star, with Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili, that's probably enough.
Maybe an Earl Clark or a Hasheem Thabeet... neither a franchise player, but both would step right in seamlessly and immediately make the Spurs much, much better, younger, more athletic without disrupting the pecking order offensively.
Not that I'm advocating tanking, but with a team like the Spurs, they wouldn't need a franchise player, just a really, really good player to fill in some of their needs right now.
How else are the Spurs supposed to win again in the Duncan era and establish a succession strategy if we don't tank one of these seasons?
If anyone suggests clearing cap space like in 2003, I will slap the cess out their mouth. I told you dummies that no star players would take the bait to willingly come to San Antonio to play even for max money.
How do you think we'll a) win another le with Duncan, and b) stay a contender as his career winds down?
Question.
We have to tank!
That is a good point, I didn't think of it that way. With their Big 3, the Spurs don't necessarily need a Franchise player.
It just seems like a huge waste to tank a season and get a blue-collar kind of guy which doesn't clearly put you over the top.
You do realize that tanking the season to get a lottery pick next year would taint the astounding success our franchise has enjoyed over the last 20 years, don't you? Even if tanking would guarantee a superstar (which it won't), is it really worth the consequences? I say no way.
Tanking the season is the wussy way out of it.
The only way to keep our 2009 draft pick, which we foolishly traded away for an over-and-done Kurt Thomas.
It's not a question of chosing to tank. They might just tank naturally.
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