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    Good takes timvp. Especially on Popovich. I can't believe he played Duncan 40 minutes either. Duncan is playing WAY too much early in the season and imo is an injury waiting to happen.
    You mean like oden who has played 13 regular minutes in the last year?

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    At 0-3, while hope isn’t lost, some sort of change is needed. Personally, I think that change should be even more minutes for Mason and also giving Hill the backup point guard job. Mason gives the Spurs life offensively and is also playing relatively well defensively, while Hill is needed to supply more scoring and more pressure on defense. I’m not ready to give up on Bowen yet but that situation definitely needs to be watched closely. While the offense certainly isn’t flowing perfectly, most of the problems are due to the liberal defense the Spurs are employing. There is virtually no backbone to speak of right now on that end of the court. Can we as Spurs fans expect the Spurs to bounce back? Yes we can. Although the Spurs really do need to go into Minnesota on Wednesday night and come away with a victory to stop this ship from taking on even more water.

    Believe.
    I agree with you whole heartedly there.

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    When Tony and Tim are average this team is not very good. The Spurs are clearly suffering with Manu being out, but even at that I was hoping for no worse than .500 ball while we adjust to life without him. We can't win without others stepping up.

    I keep hoping KT is just hurt, because he's playing well below my expectations for him. Bonner is awful. Our frontcourt right now, if you remove Timmy, is the worst in the league, and that's obviously what's killing us in these games.

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    Well, I know I saw Tolliver behind the bench. Any idea if he will be playing against the T'Wolves tonight? If he does, at least he is more athletic than Bonner.

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    I agree with Timvp that playing Duncan 40 minutes in a game like this was a mistake. Wearing him out at the beginning of the season goes against the philosophy of this team, and hasn't produced a win yet.

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    Well, I know I saw Tolliver behind the bench. Any idea if he will be playing against the T'Wolves tonight?
    Everything I'm finding says he's "Projected Inactive".

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    According to Hollinger's team stats, the Spurs are the worst defensive team in basketball right now. They're the second best offensive team.

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    tolliver hasn't been with the team for a while, i doubt he steps in and plays. maybe in a week or so after he gets back into it. but i hope i'm wrong.

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    When Tony and Tim are average this team is not very good. The Spurs are clearly suffering with Manu being out, but even at that I was hoping for no worse than .500 ball while we adjust to life without him. We can't win without others stepping up.
    As great of a player as I think Manu is, I'm not too sure the Spurs still wouldn't be 0-3 with Manu in the lineup. The biggest problem the first three games has been defense. With Bowen playing the worst basketball of his Spurs career and absolutely no resistance at the rim, I'm not sure the Spurs could win games right now if both Manu and LeBron were added to the perimeter rotation.

    I keep hoping KT is just hurt, because he's playing well below my expectations for him. Bonner is awful. Our frontcourt right now, if you remove Timmy, is the worst in the league, and that's obviously what's killing us in these games.
    True. When Roger Mason, Jr. is leading your team in blocked shots, you know something is terribly wrong. Either one of the bigs needs to step up or Mahinmi or Tolliver need to come to the rescue.

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    Tolliver is not a savior ...

    Pop will have to decrease Tims minutes and he knows it. Maybe he trying to figure who is the best with Tim on the floor - that's why Tim needs to be on the court so many minutes so early in the season.
    His minutes will drop at some point of a season so I hold myself to worry about that right now.

    Bowen - the Bowen case might be a diferent. Bowen maybe knows he can't handle all 82 games of a season. That's why he is not giving maximum effort and can be out of perfect shape right now. He maybe is preparing himself for last 3 months of a season.
    I don't know. But he regressed dramaticly.

    Next 5 games the answer?

    What will Pop do?

    there was a great record in Bruce starting every game. Pop putted him in every game last season even when he did not want him to play (at the end). So I wonder if Bowen wil go to the bench this year. Pop in some cases is really stubborn

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    Well, I think Pop should start Mason for Finley, and have Hill give it a shot as backup PG for the game against the Wolves. I would probably also have Udoka start in place of Bowen or Bonner. Especially if the Wolves want to play small.

    After all, Pop does seem to be interested in playing with the lineups. Maybe this will shake something loose.

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    Everything I'm finding says he's "Projected Inactive".
    Thanks!!

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    btw. I said that Hill must to be a backup PG, if not spurs would be in a deep shieyit.

    It seems that he will be right there.

    So now we need to think about other stuff, like froncourt or swings.

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    btw. I said that Hill must to be a backup PG, if not spurs would be in a deep shieyit.

    It seems that he will be right there.

    So now we need to think about other stuff, like froncourt or swings.
    I always have trouble with the front court rotations. It is especially difficult since I still have yet to see what Mahinmi can bring. The Spurs really lack a big who can play "above the rim" on a consistent basis. I have watched a couple D-League games and saw that Mahinmi does have the athleticism that the Spurs seem to lack in the frontcourt. I am highly optimistic about him and have been ever since I saw him play against the Bucks last year. He was a dunking machine.

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    Post game interviews. Duncan: "Luckily Playoffs don't start anytime soon."

    http://www.nba.com/video/teams/spurs...yer=team&q=SAS

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    Spurs are lacking stellar squad.

    I mean they need to have 5 guys (starters) plus 4 bench pleyers which can provide punch.
    Spurs rotation sucks, we have no idea what a certain player can bring. We are only hoping that player A can bring this and player B can bring that. so it not helping and Pop also is unsure of his bench players. Having 10 equal guys is worst then having 3 great bench players and 7 below average.

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    Bonner is republican? He is supposed to be out with Bush administration. Sending him to Guantanamo military base in Cuba will be a great idea.

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    I'm just wondering why the defense is so terrible. It just sucks and there has been no improvement over the past three games. Is Pop even addressing it?

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    Post game interviews. Duncan: "Luckily Playoffs don't start anytime soon."

    http://www.nba.com/video/teams/spurs...yer=team&q=SAS

    Thanks



    Anybody counted how many Times Tim said umm in that interview?

    I bet it was 21 times

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    Post game interviews. Duncan: "Luckily Playoffs don't start anytime soon."

    http://www.nba.com/video/teams/spurs...yer=team&q=SAS
    Thanks for the link. I like the at ude coming from Mason and Hill. Plus Pop looks ready to implode, which is good.

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    Is implode an opposition to explode?

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    Well, it isn't like the Spurs defense is absolutely terrible. They seem to be sagging into the lane alot more, and I am thinking it is because of the lack of big men. Everyone on the perimeter seems to be quite coy about applying defensive pressure because they are afraid of foul trouble and giving more problems to the Spurs interior. It is something that I believe only time and good healing can fix.

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    I'm just wondering why the defense is so terrible. It just sucks and there has been no improvement over the past three games. Is Pop even addressing it?
    Front. Court.

    No one to guard the paint effectively with no mobile bigs to play next to Timmy means no interior defense.

    Mahinmi is going to have to bring that presence in the front court and Tolliver is going to have to take Bonner's minutes and produce so the Spurs can go with a rotation of Tim, Oberto, Mahinmi, and Tolliver with KT getting some spot minutes against guys he matches up with.

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    Is implode an opposition to explode?
    I've checked.

    It's like in polish

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    Well guys I am out. Cyall after the game tonight.

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