Parker is anything but a PG

[MI21]

Where is IceColdBrewski?

Beno with a mammoth 2-9FG 4pts 6asts 4TO game.

But yeah, Beno > Parker

[jjktkk]

He is great, fast, fearless. Unvaluable.

But he is not a PG. A PG's job is to get his team involved, run the offense for the TEAM. he has not done that for the 3rd game in a row.

All he does is penetrate, shot his midrange, and sometimes kick it out to the 3 pt shooter when he has no other choice. that is not a PG!!!!

Hill came in last night and ran the team as a PG should.

With Manu out, shouldn't we have a PG that tries to get the team involved??????

come on TP, play as a traditional PG more. this is BS

I have to ask do you know the game of basketball well? TP had 10 assists tonight. I repeat 10 assists!!!! That is very, very, solid. 10 assists to go along with 55 points. If TP isn't one of the top 5 PG's in the league, whoever decides. needs a urnaliysis test.

[Brutalis]

For one TP has never had to be a tradition PG on the Spurs. He has always been a scoring option and one to move well without the ball to get open too. For two I shouldn't even have to go on.

I am sure when the day comes for TP to be a traditional PG he will be somewhere else or fill that roll nicely here.

[knee-knee-3]

He is great, fast, fearless. Unvaluable.

But he is not a PG. A PG's job is to get his team involved, run the offense for the TEAM. he has not done that for the 3rd game in a row.

All he does is penetrate, shot his midrange, and sometimes kick it out to the 3 pt shooter when he has no other choice. that is not a PG!!!!

Hill came in last night and ran the team as a PG should.

With Manu out, shouldn't we have a PG that tries to get the team involved??????

come on TP, play as a traditional PG more. this is BS

[honestfool84]

For one TP has never had to be a tradition PG on the Spurs. He has always been a scoring option and one to move well without the ball to get open too. For two I shouldn't even have to go on.

I am sure when the day comes for TP to be a traditional PG he will be somewhere else or fill that roll nicely here.

hopefully parker retires as a spur.

#9 sure would look good up there on the rafters alongside #21 and #20.

[knee-knee-3]

He is great, fast, fearless. Unvaluable.

But he is not a PG. A PG's job is to get his team involved, run the offense for the TEAM. he has not done that for the 3rd game in a row.

All he does is penetrate, shot his midrange, and sometimes kick it out to the 3 pt shooter when he has no other choice. that is not a PG!!!!

Hill came in last night and ran the team as a PG should.

With Manu out, shouldn't we have a PG that tries to get the team involved??????

come on TP, play as a traditional PG more. this is BS

Oops!

I think your desire for Tony to play a more traditional point isn't realistic. He can't get Bowen, Finley and Udoka involved if they can't make their shots. He's as dependable as Duncan right now, so why not give him the green light?

[spurspf]

hopefully parker retires as a spur.

#9 sure would look good up there on the rafters alongside #21 and #20.

If Tony Parker got traded tomorrow, #9 would still be in the rafters. (and no I am not advocating trading him, just saying he has done more than other people whose #'s are already there. Sorrry TimVP, thinking of #6.)

[Solid D]

Tony's not a shooting guard because he's not a good shooter.

Oops. Rethink "not a good shooter".

[Cry Havoc]

hopefully parker retires as a spur.

#9 sure would look good up there on the rafters alongside #21 and #20.

#50.

[Naelven]

You are all wrong, TP is a SCPG : Shooting Center Point Guard !

[Allanon]

Oops. Rethink "not a good shooter".

Tony had a video game like performance last night, looking at the numbers, I missed the game.

But I still don't think he's a good shooter (meaning jump shots/3 pointers). He's crazy in the paint.

[urunobili]

Tony had a video game like performance last night, looking at the numbers, I missed the game.

But I still don't think he's a good shooter (meaning jump shots/3 pointers). He's crazy in the paint.

3-4 for the season on 3 pts shooting say something different...

[Brazil]

You are all wrong, TP is a SCPG : Shooting Center Point Guard !

lol good definition !

[Allanon]

3-4 for the season on 3 pts shooting say something different...

I believe it's 3 of 5 for 60%. Those are nice numbers but it's still a small sample.

We'll see how he does on the season. Maybe he's improved his 3 point shooting but I don't think so.

[Obstructed_View]

Parker's not a point guard. All he does is dribble the ball up the floor, penetrates and kicks, or goes in for a layup if they play off him, passes to a teammate if they press him, shoots it if they go under the pick, and passes to one of his teammates if they're open. that is not a PG!!!!

[stretch]

how many times has it been debated on here, that the Spurs system is just not based on that. Fine if TP is not a "true pg" then so be it, but he has never been apart of a run and gun team. Spurs have always been halfcourt minded.

I don't know why yall get so defensive of parker when people simply say he is not a very good passer, especially in comparison to elite passing PGs like Kidd, Nash, Paul, etc... Parker is still a damn good player and fits perfectly for the Spurs system, as evidenced by the 3 les. Why whine like babies over the fact that someone pointed out a flaw in him (which i dont really consider a flaw, because i consider him an undersized SG, not a PG)

[stretch]

well i'm responding to a reactionary thread that is calling out parker's current play after three games, so i'm just going off what's current. i guess i can post up like some preseason stats or maybe some stats from the french nt, or maybe some numbers from like 04, maybe find some high school stats for you... but that wouldn't really mesh with the essence of the thread imo

using stats two games into the regular season is pretty much equally worthless as all those other stats.

oh and at the time of this post, parkers got 30 and 7.

good for him.

[xapatan2]

oups sorry !

Well, you are still on this thread guys ...

Well, that's interesting

But I have something deeper for you :

Is Tim Duncan a powerforward or a center ?
Is Manu A slasher or a creator ? or is he o SF or SG ????


Xap'

[spursfan09]

I don't know why yall get so defensive of parker when people simply say he is not a very good passer, especially in comparison to elite passing PGs like Kidd, Nash, Paul, etc... Parker is still a damn good player and fits perfectly for the Spurs system, as evidenced by the 3 les. Why whine like babies over the fact that someone pointed out a flaw in him (which i dont really consider a flaw, because i consider him an undersized SG, not a PG)

I can agree that TP is not a great passer. But at the same time you have to realize the Spurs system doesn't need him to be. Whether he could be considered "elite" on another team with another system is pointless to debate because we just won't know. As for us getting defensive, haven't you been here long enough to know how many Spur fans love to rag on TP because they don't like them. Why they don't like him is beyond me, but this is constant and I think thats why many people come to his defense rather quickly.

[mathbzh]

Does Parker control the tempo of the game? Initiate fast breaks? Set up plays? Apply Pop's plan?...

If he does that, I think he is a true PG despite not being an elite passer.

[stretch]

I can agree that TP is not a great passer. But at the same time you have to realize the Spurs system doesn't need him to be.

Already aknowledged that.

Whether he could be considered "elite" on another team with another system is pointless to debate because we just won't know.

Which is basically what all the TP nut riders do.

As for us getting defensive, haven't you been here long enough to know how many Spur fans love to rag on TP because they don't like them. Why they don't like him is beyond me, but this is constant and I think thats why many people come to his defense rather quickly.

Actually I've been around longer than you have. I've seen the hate, and a lot of it is ridiculous. But not as much as the countless re s who just suck his non-stop. I'd say thats 10x more obnoxious.

[stretch]

Does Parker control the tempo of the game? Initiate fast breaks? Set up plays? Apply Pop's plan?...

He pretty much does all those things for his own scoring benefits. Rarely does he do those things to get others involved. Parker is very good at creating for himself. But not so great at creating for others.

[Naelven]

Does Parker control the tempo of the game? Initiate fast breaks? Set up plays? Apply Pop's plan?...

If he does that, I think he is a true PG despite not being an elite passer.

I totaly agree.
Being a PG is not all about passing the ball, it is about being the thinking head of the team, controlling the tempo of the game, apply coach's strategy.
That being said, TP is a damn good PG.

[xellos88330]

Parker is a scoring point guard, plain and simple. He doesn't distribute the ball as much as most would like, but what is the point when the other team can't stop you? You go under a pick, he torches you, you fight through it, he torches you, you play it well, he still torches you.

[Obstructed_View]

I don't know why yall get so defensive of parker when people simply say he is not a very good passer, especially in comparison to elite passing PGs like Kidd, Nash, Paul, etc... Parker is still a damn good player and fits perfectly for the Spurs system, as evidenced by the 3 les. Why whine like babies over the fact that someone pointed out a flaw in him (which i dont really consider a flaw, because i consider him an undersized SG, not a PG)

Because it was a Spurs fan doing it, whining about Parker when the Spurs are 0-3 despite the fact that he's putting up MVP numbers as though his lack of Jason Kidd assist numbers is the reason the Spurs can't stop a layup or guard jump shots.