Rockets screwed by Portland timekeeper

[baseline bum]

Hollinger wrote that ESPN timed it and it took 1.6 seconds for Roy to catch and shoot the ball.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailyd...ge=dime-081107

Look at the clock in this pic.....Brandon Roy has already caught the ball, turned around and squared up and the clock has not even started, the Rockets got screwed.



DD

Boo ing hoo... come complain to me when the timekeeper s your team out of a championship.

[Indazone]

Good pt Baseline...that's ten times worse. But screw these timekeepers!

[JamStone]

I don't know Mono, but you would think they would have some la ude as to the timekeeping, maybe put something on the officials to make them start and stop the clock?

DD

I think it would have to be extremely egregious to use that type of la ude and discretion. While it looks like the clock may have started late, Roy still caught and shot the ball rather quickly. It wasn't like he caught, stopped, put down a dribble, pump faked, then shot.

Last year in the playoffs between Detroit and Orlando, Billups hit a triple to end a third quarter, but the clock had not started. The officials had to determine how much time lapsed. It would have been close whether Billups had made the shot in time. But, they still allowed it because they couldn't review whether it "beat the buzzer." So they only used the review to guess at how much time was remaining.

It's a slippery slope. There doesn't appear to be a clear rule on instant replay regarding such a thing. I really think it would have had to have been extremely egregious for the officials to disallow th bucket. I don't think it was in this case.

[JamStone]

Boo ing hoo... come complain to me when the timekeeper s your team out of a championship.

A timekeeper screwing your team out of the second round of the playoffs is not screwing your team out of a championship.

[Many PackYao]

Seeking supporters on that argument on a Spurs-related board seems like an exercise in futility to me. Particularly when you're dealing with a relatively meaningless Game 5 of the regular season on the road and not a pivotal Game 5 of the Western Conference Semifinals at home, after one of the most incredible (and now forgotten) shots in playoff history.

No were just exercising the right to post what we thought.If no one agrees with what was an obvious timekeeper up, thats ok too.I've seen some Spurs fans here who can see things from an unbiased point of view.

[Trainwreck2100]

next time play defense

[DaDakota]

next time play defense

LOL - I could not agree more...Tmac has been CRAP on defense this year...good on O....lazy on D.

Roy was his man, he let him go.

DD

[tlongII]

Boo ing hoo... come complain to me when the timekeeper s your team out of a championship.

The funny thing about that one was that it was in San Antonio!

[Many PackYao]

The funny thing about that one was that it was in San Antonio!

ouch

[turiaf for president]

cry all u want. that was a sick sick shot by roy. if u played better D it wouldnt have even mattered but grats to adelman ing up the assignments because his defensive schemes suck ass

[The Franchise]

next time play defense

That was on McGrady. He was ten feet from his man when he caught the ball. Had he just been close enough to contest the shot I doubt he makes it. This lazy on D is getting tired really ing quick. The defense had to scramble a lot because of his half hearted efforts to check his man all night. In the end it cost us.

[DaDakota]

That was on McGrady. He was ten feet from his man when he caught the ball. Had he just been close enough to contest the shot I doubt he makes it. This lazy on D is getting tired really ing quick. The defense had to scramble a lot because of his half hearted efforts to check his man all night. In the end it cost us.

No doubt about it.

DD

[sribb43]

That was on McGrady. He was ten feet from his man when he caught the ball. Had he just been close enough to contest the shot I doubt he makes it. This lazy on D is getting tired really ing quick. The defense had to scramble a lot because of his half hearted efforts to check his man all night. In the end it cost us.

if Adelman has any brains, when healthy, he will insert Battier for T-mac in the lost game situation in which a stop is needed

[sribb43]

Bennet Salvatore was an official in last nights game...he is notorius for screwing teams over. See the 2006Finals and the phantoms call D-Wade got

[Allanon]

The replay rule cannot be used to judge if the timekeeper started the clock on time or not.

And of course, we think of it being ".8" seconds but these things are never accurate all the time. That's because it's a human sitting there and watching the ball come in. The Timekeeper can't cheat the player out of catching the ball so he has to wait until he actually sees the ball touch his hand.

Then you add in time to press the button and time for that to start the elctronics to start the clock.

There's easily a .5 second delay in almost every start/stop of the timeclock. But this works to the advantag/disadvantage of both teams.

So a .8 second shot would get something like 1.3 seconds minimum.

[FromWayDowntown]

No were just exercising the right to post what we thought.If no one agrees with what was an obvious timekeeper up, thats ok too.I've seen some Spurs fans here who can see things from an unbiased point of view.

I'm unbiased. I'm just not particularly sympathetic.

[DaDakota]

I'm unbiased. I'm just not particularly sympathetic.

That is fair enough.......I am of the same of the Spurs crappy start.....but at least I can admit when someone got screwed.

DD

[IronMexican]

I'm not saying you didn't, but, it's game 5 of the season. Why not wait a while.

[Kriz-Maxima]

Rockets didn't get screwed out of . That sort of thing has to have sort of room for human error. It all falls on the Rockets disgusting defense. Roy was halfway to the ball and TMac was still planted on his spot, while Yao did absolutely nothing to bother the inbound.

Rockets deserved to lose.

[The Franchise]

Rockets didn't get screwed out of . That sort of thing has to have sort of room for human error. It all falls on the Rockets disgusting defense. Roy was halfway to the ball and TMac was still planted on his spot, while Yao did absolutely nothing to bother the inbound.

Rockets deserved to lose.

I agree with half of what you said, but part of it is wrong. It wasn't the Rockets defense it was Tracies (Lazy ).

[Many PackYao]

Rockets didn't get screwed out of . That sort of thing has to have sort of room for human error.

I wonder if you would say that if it was the Pistons that got screwed.

[RsxPiimp]

next time play defense

chyeah. i dont know wtf is mcgrady thinking on that last play. sheesh.

[Kriz-Maxima]

I wonder if you would say that if it was the Pistons that got screwed.

And I wonder if you would be as angry if it was the other way around. At the very least I'm certain it would had not kept you from celebrating the victory

[Many PackYao]

And I wonder if you would be as angry if it was the other way around. At the very least I'm certain it would had not kept you from celebrating the victory

I would have no problem admitting they stole a win due to the timekeepers up.I also do agree with others that the Rockets failed to play defense on that Roy shot.

[Dex]

I agree with half of what you said, but part of it is wrong. It wasn't the Rockets defense it was Tracies (Lazy ).

Tracy definitely gave Roy a step, and that seemed to be the difference, but Roy was fighting for that.

What I don't understand is why Yao, who was guarding the inbounder (?) didn't even step to the direction of the ball when it was passed in. He was easily 3 feet away from Roy; if he jumps to the ball on that pass, Roy suddenly has to shoot over the Great Wall of China.

With 0.8 seconds on the clock, you know wherever the ball is getting passed, the shot is going up. I'm not sure what he hoped to accomplish by sticking with the inbounder, but it seemed like a pretty big mental lapse.