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    We grasp the concept.

    We just don't care.
    Speak for yourself, you apathetic pvssy.



    Well, you keep jerking off to the Toros and step out of this conversation if you have nothing of value to add to it.

    Take a stand for once, ChampDamper.



    I hate you fence straddling, dispassionate homers.

    You have no idea or appreciation how lucky we Spurs fans are to have landed Duncan and Robinson are are complacent while the front office does just enough damage to the roster to put us in a position where tanking seems like a seriously viable option for continued success.

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    This team isn't tanking right now and it is 1-4 because 2 of its top 3 players are now out for an extended period of time. An inability to score along with leaky defense is a recipe for disaster.

    Making the lottery this year is not a stretch at all given the current state of the roster.

    BTW - Hill was better than Chalmers tonight.

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    My stand, Casper?

    Don't tank.

    And go yourself, you worthless, phony, ungrateful piece of .

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    Oh, wow.

    "Don't tank."

    And how do you propose we get better... cultivate the Toros?


    Kill yourself.

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    All we need is TD to get injured and the tanking will be easy.

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    Oh, wow.

    "Tank."

    yourself.

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    You can actually say pussy Ghost....

    It's true, if it wasn't for the lottery, Duncan would've never moved to San Antonio.

    San Antonio ing sucks as a city, it's slightly better than Utah, but not much...

    The lottery is the key, because they ain't signing else.

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    Thank you, Sequ.

    Perhaps if Chump keeps his head in the sand long enough, he'll suffocate and die.



    Getting lucky in the draft has become the front office's calling card.

    We should encourage the team to take the year off.

    I'm still p1ssed they won in double overtime vs. the Wolves. Assuming the Spurs do the smart thing and tank, Minnesota will have lots of lottery balls, too.


    I have no desire to watch the Spurs toil all year to get bounced, like the final years of Stockton-Malone.

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    So don't watch, .

    You will not be missed.

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    The Spurs could definitely get their guys back and play great in December and throughout the second half of the season. I'm afraid an awful start will be too much to overcome in the Western Conference.

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    Waaaah.


    You still have not opined one single suggestion for how the Spurs can keep the championship window open.



    And if you say "sign a Toro," I will flamethrow you all over this board, you gutless conservative.

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    The Spurs could definitely get their guys back and play great in December and throughout the second half of the season. I'm afraid an awful start will be too much to overcome in the Western Conference.
    Exactly.

    So why bother?

    At full strength, our Big Three would be hardpressed to defeat the stacked Hornets, Lakers and Rockets this season anyway.

    The Jazz might surpass the Spurs before you know it.

    You "punt" this season away, keep Oklahoma from cashing in on our first rounder and take your chances in the lottery.

    Luck is always on the Spurs side in the lottery.



    I am trying to enable the front office here!

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    Waaaah.


    You still have not opined one single suggestion for how the Spurs can keep the championship window open.
    Get healthy first, then see what trades come up in the coming months. We're not going to get anything in November.



    And if you say "sign a Toro," I will flamethrow you all over this board, you gutless conservative.
    I'd probably sign a Dakota Wizard first this season.

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    What this team really needs is a modern day Cherokee Parks.

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    The Spurs could definitely get their guys back and play great in December and throughout the second half of the season. I'm afraid an awful start will be too much to overcome in the Western Conference.
    I agree with this.

    Time to play the youngsters and see what happens, to jettison Finley as soon as possible out the nearest hatch, to hope that KT and Bruce are injured and not simply unable to play at NBA level any more, and to pray that Ian Mahinmi is the Third Coming.

    The spot we are in was caused by the stubborn 2010 plan, which began after the 2007 trophy and was fool's gold to begin with. How you waste 3 years of Tim's prime on a free agent hope in 2010 is beyond me. Without the bloody stupid 2010 plan, who knows what we could have gotten with the full MLE in the last two offseasons? And how did we bypass Matt Barnes for the minimum???

    BTW, someone mentioned Earl Clark - he's a long swing, all-court player with balls of ice who would fit really well here I think.

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    Who are you guys wanting to tank to get?

    Is their a franchise player in the draft?

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    Who are you guys wanting to tank to get?

    Is their a franchise player in the draft?
    Not yet but you never know who will show themselves as studs during the NCAA season...

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    no more finley, bonner, bowen(gulp), vaughn, kt. time for the new kids to play with mr. duncan and learn to win games by themselves.

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    This 2010 plan assumed that the Spurs could win with their core of three stars and good supporting cast.

    That plan works when the three stars are healthy. Guess what? They aren't healthy and Pop is having to rely on some very young kids who aren't as talented as say a Michael Beasley.

    The Spurs defense has been terrible so far this year - a complete 180 from what we are used to seeing and losses are beginning to pile up.

    I was not looking for a great start this year, but this is getting ugly very quickly.

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    Look, Spurs don't have to tank. They aren't good enough to beat the heat or the mavs at home. , they aren't even good enough to compete.

    Tanking is inevitable...

    How the do you think they are going to win without manu and parker?????

    lmao

    it's over.

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    Look, Spurs don't have to tank. They aren't good enough to beat the heat or the mavs at home. , they aren't even good enough to compete.

    Tanking is inevitable...
    I have said this, too.

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    But, if you think about it, the Spurs don't need another "franchise" player. But, if they get one of the best small forwards or centers in the draft, even if he's not a franchise star, with Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili, that's probably enough.

    Maybe an Earl Clark or a Hasheem Thabeet... neither a franchise player, but both would step right in seamlessly and immediately make the Spurs much, much better, younger, more athletic without disrupting the pecking order offensively.

    Not that I'm advocating tanking, but with a team like the Spurs, they wouldn't need a franchise player, just a really, really good player to fill in some of their needs right now.
    You make a great point. Rather than a franchise player, if the Spurs simply were to secure one of the best small forwards in the draft or a young big, that would work well.

    However, there is one thing wrong with that pipe dream. The Spurs traded their 2009 first round pick away to the Sonics (now OKC) in the Kurt Thomas deal. That's why missing out on Nicolas Batum was so damaging to their restocking effort.

    Therefore for draft positioning sake, the Spurs cannot afford to be mediocre. They must be really, really good or really, really bad.

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    Hasheem Thabeet would be a nice lottery pick to fit on the Spurs. Great size and actually runs the court really well for a big guy. Would immediately help with rebounding, and could erase some mistakes defensively with shot blocking. Plus, he wouldn't really disrupt the offense, which still will be in the capable hands of Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili. But, he would probably help with second chance opportunities with offensive rebounding.
    Any info on Hasheem Thabeet? What kind of player is he?

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    It's not a question of chosing to tank. They might just tank naturally.


    When two of your Big Three are gone for a while, two starting veterans can't pull their weight and the rest of the bench is rookies or useless, the odds are you won't have a good season.

    The injuries to Manu and Parker have revealed the veteran weaknesses of this year's team.

    1.Check out Thomas' stats for the last few years and you'll see a steady decline. That's why other teams got rid of him. I never thought he was going to be as good as most folks did.
    2. Finley--no point in beating a dead horse. Thanks for the memories of your championship year.
    3. Bowen--his apparent decline to ineffectiveness on defense is shocking--and that's all that kept him from being a liability on the court on offense.
    4. Vaughn--last gasps out of a veteran who's tank is about empty. He tries hard but has never been more than a backup.
    5. Bonner--As much as I wanted Big Red to succeed here, he hasn't.

    Usually you hope veterans will carry a team and help the rookies. This year may prove to be the exception that proves the rule. This year could get ugly real fast

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    why not trade for curry + rose? or rose + lee?

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