Its like mother ers read. Read what I ing quoted. Just read it. Find me the testimony of the other experts brought in instead of ing running with whatever you can spin.
You're all a bunch of intellectually dishonest dumb s and the reason nothing ever gets done. Instead of actually acknowledging what is going on you spin this bull so that anyone "on your side" will start foaming at the mouth and you throw around words you don't even know the meaning to like socialism.
The least you can ing do is at least read the bull that you yourselves post.
The only dumb s are the people in D.C. that are elected and are even having this discussion or bringing in 'experts' spewing ideas like this.
There's more than the blog posted Manny. Demo Congressmen were openly saying that they were going to end the tax deferred benefits. Quit with the 'look at the source' bull defense that the libs know and love.
How about you link that material then? How about you look at the entire transcript of the discussion? How about you show me something that indicates there is an actually effort to move this through congress instead of some raving like an idiotic lunatic at everything that is said.
Do I really need to go looking for quotes from GOP congressmen and women on stupid they propose?
Its bull ranting from you because you guys are all bitter as . Nothing like this is even close to passing yet you're all acting like the ing sky is falling because you're all butt hurt over the election results.
Yes, it will "the sky is falling" Republicans throughout BHO's presidentcy, especially those who worship Rush and Hannity.
go look it up youseelf. you aren't re ed ae you? you are one of the least intelectually honest folks on this board.
I don't have an obsession with you sig..it is just quite possible the most ludacris quote I've ever read about the usa....right above some lady saying she had never felt proud of her country until right now in 2008....I can't wait til some of this eextreme garbage starrts to happen in this push towarrds socialism. and dung..u idiot..the repubs will gain nothing in 2010..look at the seats up for re-election. ya big dummy.
ludacris
that's all u got? typing this from my touch pro..
Even funnier.
Because I thoroughly enjoy making some of you look stupid on a daily basis:
There are the results of a Google news search for "401k congress"
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...n1.99fb1d.html
http://www.cnbc.com/id/27558644Rep. George Miller, D-Calif., has proposed changes that include:
•Providing complete disclosure of all 401(k)-related fees and increasing transparency.
•Providing independent management advice to help people better manage their plans.
•Waiving the current tax penalty for seniors over 70 ˝ who don't take a minimum withdrawal from their retirement accounts.
•Prohibiting privatizing Social Security.
Mr. Miller said his committee is preparing to present ideas to strengthen 401(k) and other retirement plans to the next Congress.
Here the professor mentioned in the OP comments herself that Democrats aren't going to implement her plan. I wonder why that wasn't discussed above? No, I really don't wonder because I already know.
Options would be bad right? I mean having additional ways to save for retirement is a horrible idea, right?But she doubts Miller will adopt her blueprint in full.
"He wants to make 401(k)s better. He doesn't want to kill the tax deduction. In my favor, he agrees I brought up genuinely credible criticisms of the 401(k) tax break as it exists now." But Democrats may draw from parts of her proposal.
"The Democrats are looking at two paths," she said.
"One is to make the 401(k) system, which is commercial and individualized, more fair, but not do anything to expand coverage or guarantee returns." The other path is to broaden coverage and guarantee returns. "I think the compromise will be a voluntary guaranteed retirement account. So that if people don't have a 401(k), or want a better alternative to a 401(k), they could put their money into a government-guaranteed fund."
So this is the part where you come in and post the waves of overwhelming evidence for your outrage, right AHF? I mean you'd never embellish on here, right? I await your response eagerly.
MannyIsGod kicks some more ass.
its pretty simple to me, obama needs money to keep his campaign promises. how can he do this, tax the 401. 2 years people the democrats can do what they want. thats scary.
Chump, believe me when I say this will be presented to the people as
some kind of crisis and that this is the only thing that will save their
savings.
I have lived in several socialist countries and believe me when I say they
can and may very well do this.
They have already gotten their foot in the door by "investing" in our
largest banks. They are fixing to get their foot in the manufacturing by
giving money to the auto makers.
The bankers were given no choice in their decision to accept government
money. They were told no one is leaving the room till they signed the
papers. That is a fact.
You all wanted the Democrats in power. You have it. Now reap the
wind.
less Aggie is ST's serial "throw-some-knee-jerk- -and-run-away" expert.
The only source you need is: Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid.
But I am putting a link in to the Rush Limbaugh show. I know, I can
already hear the cat calls and BS that is to follow. But I would suggest
you read it and look at the facts he quotes. George Miller who has
oversite of the 401k is not a "stupid ". Anyhow, it more than likely
will happen. 10 trillion dollars is a lot of money and the dimms don't
want it hanging over their heads and they have a lot more spending
they want to do.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...112.guest.html
Also look at the links at the end of the transcript. WSJ is not a rag
by any means. Unlike the NYT.
Look in the mirror asswipeless Aggie is ST's serial "throw-some-knee-jerk- -and-run-away" expert.
Manny -
I'll have to do some hunting and get back to you. I was on the road for part of the week last week and it was in one of the newspapers I read on my flight back to Dallas (had to be either the WSJ, USAToday, or Houston Chronicle - but I think it was one of the national ones).
Yeah, there is no financial crisis right now. Move along.
It's still not going to happen.
Because it is ing stupid.
WTF does this even have to do with the topic.
lmao, you bring nothing but Obama sucking.
Hunt away but where is there to find? I provided you with a proper context for why this person was brought in and what they outlined. I provided you with quotes from many people who said this is not going to happen but that the government program providing an alternative may.Look in the mirror asswipe
Manny -
I'll have to do some hunting and get back to you. I was on the road for part of the week last week and it was in one of the newspapers I read on my flight back to Dallas (had to be either the WSJ, USAToday, or Houston Chronicle - but I think it was one of the national ones).
Its fake outrage plain and simple because there's no proof you're going to find that this is going to happen. If there was it would be huge news and would contradict everything I found/posted.
Chump this is one time I hope and pray you are right. But I haveYeah, there is no financial crisis right now. Move along.
It's still not going to happen.
some really bad gut feelings about this Obama's administration.
But, like I said, I hope you are right and I am wrong.
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