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    Even with Tony, their defense was bad. With or without the injury to him, that is something that must be addressed. The only win they have was because Tony scored out of his mind. Even with Marbury, this team isn't going to score 100+ points. They can't win without getting the defense back to what we expect. No player they can get is going to replace Tony's scoring, without which they haven't won. They need someone who can at least help by reducing the amount of points needed to win, i.e. PLAY DEFENSE.
    They also can't win scoring 80 points a night. Where is the offense going to come from? I can say without hyperbole that 2/3 of our active roster is NBDL material so far.

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    And what if we could somehow get an unhappy Sergio Rodriguez?

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    What's odd is that the Spurs shouldn't be playing defense this bad. Manu wasn't a huge contribution, he was good but not great on D. Idk if there are too many new guys, are just Pop is playing the worn out vets too much. I'm guessing the latter.

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    This has a VERY slim chance of happening though. Walsh and DAntoni have said multiple times they will not waive or buy him out.

    They said they would rather pay him $20 million a year to ride the bench the rest of the season.

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    This has a VERY slim chance of happening though. Walsh and DAntoni have said multiple times they will not waive or buy him out.

    They said they would rather pay him $20 million a year to ride the bench the rest of the season.
    Denver said the same thing about McDyess, and he's being bought out tomorrow.

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    Here are some guys I think we should look at: Jason Sasser, Joe Courtney, Stephen Howard, Gaylon Nickerson, Tim Kempton, and Darrin Han .

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    I don't see how adding Stephon helps us win. It might help us score more, but anybody who has watched the past few games knows that we aren't going to beat anyone by outscoring them. Maybe if we had Manu and Tony, but we don't. We need everyone to step up obviously, but in particular, we need Tim to be a defensive force inside, Fab and Kurt to crash the boards, and Bruce to be the shutdown defender we know he is.
    You have to crawl before you can walk. So adding scoring to a team who cannot, will not aid in winning? Ok.

    My ears keep hearing the same bull over and over again. " We need Tim to play D like we know he can." "Cry, Blah, Cry, Blah"---The situation is this people, without two All Star potent scorers Tim must be on the court for us to win, even with one of the two out. So all this Tim needs to do this and that needs to chill.

    What happens if Tim is on the bench for long stretches due to fouls? Oh I get it, we'll hear this: "Come on Tim, you gotta know better than that to foul, we need you on the court." Please, just stop with the garbage. At this point in time, we cannot simply choose out of a plethora of efficient players. If we survive when Tony and Manu get back, then Marbury could be used as a Ben Gordon type player. Come on now, this isn't that hard. And, he knows what he'd be coming into with Pop, the whole league does.

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    IF marubry were to come to the Spurs hed be such a fantastic fit. Im telling you people. The New York media has buried this guy so deep in crap that everyone believes hes the worst team player on the earth. He has made horrible decisions in the past but he has self admitted that he is a changed person now and has recently said that he wished that Larry Brown were with him to get on him like he used to.

    I think he has matured alot and is willing to put away his ego and take a role if it means winning. This team would be a good place to start his career over again.

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    There's a good possibility this team is going to be without Parker and without Ginobili for the next month. Even with Parker, this team was 1-3 with a win only because he had the game of his life, and that win still took double OT. This team needs to do whatever it can to keep its head above water until Tim, Manu, and Tony are all healthy enough to lead the Spurs.

    If this team is around the 5-16 mark this time next month, we're going to be looking at killing the big 3 with minutes just to make the playoffs. These are desperate times for the Spurs with no Parker nor Ginobili and no help from the supporting cast, and the team has to do anything it can to add talent. Even a malcontent way past his prime like Stoudamire was a very valuable stopgap for a few weeks last season, and it's a no-brainer to go out an get Marbury for the same role if he gets bought out.

    There's no way the Spurs can throw a season when they have Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili on the team, and they could very well play themselves out of the playoffs pretty easily if the team is Duncan + Mason + nothing for the next month.
    And there's a history of how much better Marbury made the Knicks.

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    I'll take that as an endorsement of the pray that Tim scores 45 and Mason 25 every night so the team can get to 90 plan.

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    I'll take that as an endorsement of the pray that Tim scores 45 and Mason 25 every night so the team can get to 90 plan.
    They've been scoring points. How's that worked out so far? Unless Marbury is some great lockdown defender then I'm unsure of how he's going to help. Yeah, he's compiled assists in his career, but that doesn't mean much if the guys you pass to can't hit a shot.

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    They've been scoring points. How's that worked out so far? Unless Marbury is some great lockdown defender then I'm unsure of how he's going to help. Yeah, he's compiled assists in his career, but that doesn't mean much if the guys you pass to can't hit a shot.
    They were scoring points 3 games when they had their top scorer. Where's it going to come from now? They scored 83 without TP. Even with TP, they only scored 81 on Dallas.

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    They were scoring points when they had their top scorer. Where's it going to come from now? They scored 83 without TP.
    They were scoring points and losing. What the does it matter if they aren't going to stop anyone? I really could care less if the Spurs lose by 4 or lose by 18; I'm not sure why you do.

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    They were scoring points and losing. What the does it matter if they aren't going to stop anyone? I really could care less if the Spurs lose by 4 or lose by 18; I'm not sure why you do.
    If the Spurs could score consistently they might get off winning up to half of their games in the next month. Tell me how they're seriously going to average 90+ with the lineup they have now. This isn't 1999, and no one's going to win games at any decent clip scoring in the 80s.

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    If the Spurs could score consistently they might get off winning up to half of their games in the next month. Tell me how they're seriously going to average 90+ with the lineup they have now. This isn't 1999, and no one's going to win games at any decent clip scoring in the 80s.
    The point you seem to be missing is that they're giving up 105 a game. It therefore doesn't matter if they score 80 or 90.

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    Marbury is pure nutcase... NO.

    Anyway, he's on $21mil, and the Knicks have stated that they won't buy him out, so what are we gonna do, trade Timmah for him???

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    This tread is retarted.

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    The point you seem to be missing is that they're giving up 105 a game. It therefore doesn't matter if they score 80 or 90.
    The point you're missing is that playing defense isn't going to make up for not being able to score more than 85 in a game. The Spurs have already had 2 horrible offensive showings after 5 games. Offense alone won't make them a good team, but it'll be enough to get some Ws against the other cellar dwellers of the league. Marbury could probably give us 10 points a night while playing as badly on the other end as Vaughn does.

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    Id take Marbury in a heart beat, he still has talent and he can score and make plays.

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    Maybe for the vet min but no way we can take this dudes contract head on

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    For veteran minimum....not even. Just play this out with the young guys.

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    $22M coming off the books at the end of the season with the possibility of ridding ourselves of Bonner/Finley/KT/Vaughn? yes!

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    Even with Tony, their defense was bad. With or without the injury to him, that is something that must be addressed. The only win they have was because Tony scored out of his mind. Even with Marbury, this team isn't going to score 100+ points. They can't win without getting the defense back to what we expect. No player they can get is going to replace Tony's scoring, without which they haven't won. They need someone who can at least help by reducing the amount of points needed to win, i.e. PLAY DEFENSE.
    This team will not win no matter how hard they play defense with the offense they have now.

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    "Hawks or Thunder here I come!!!"

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    I'd rather lose every game than have this loser and team cancer on the roster.
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