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  1. #26
    Veteran fatsack's Avatar
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    at this rate.. when i die.

  2. #27
    Beware of the Voices Bigzax's Avatar
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    retire so i can stay home and post on spurstalk? that, i'd rather get paid...

  3. #28
    My juices are flowing! JackLalanne's Avatar
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    Retirement is for wimps.

  4. #29
    Beware of the Voices Bigzax's Avatar
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    mouse is retired! i think he retired at 40 too...

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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    mouse is retired! i think he retired at 40 too...
    that's about the same thing as when Paris said she was retiring.

    You can't retire if you've never had a job

  6. #31
    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    You realize don't you, that his pension with GM isn't funded and when they run out of cash and declare bankruptcy thats one of the first things that will get reduced/eliminated, right?
    I believe my dad's is funded since he retired before they started cutting pensions but you may be correct. All I know is that when they cut benefits his stayed the same due to the labor contract he was on. His benefits have never gone down and he still gets raises when new contracts are done.

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    Veteran jack sommerset's Avatar
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    I'm done when Obama swears in. Spread the wealth!

  8. #33
    GTL: Gym, Tan, Laundry Thunder Dan's Avatar
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    I'm done when Obama swears in. Spread the wealth!
    It's funny that everyone is complaining now with Obama, but nobody had a problem when Bill Clinton had essentially the exact tax plan as Obama for 8 years- I don't even think it was an issue for either election of his. They used it as a main stay in this year's election because it tugs on middle class America's heart strings. It said to them "You don't make that much money now, but if you did would it be fair?" --It's Joe the Plumber, who benefits from Obama's tax plan, but dreams of owning a business even though he lacks the money to do so. I'm not sticking up for Obama's tax plan- I'm just saying that it seems like a big deal now, but we have had it before and the economy wasn't all that bad (maybe for other reasons it thrived like the .com boom).

    The problem is that there is no middle class America. Nobody owns anything, everyone has a ton of debt, and finally things boiled over. Whether it's a democratic tax plan, or Bush's tax plan, none of them will work when the largest portion of our population is poor. I'm not saying that we don't have access to money- but when you subtract your debts from your net worth, as a whole middle class America is poor and they were surfing a credit wave and they just wiped out.

  9. #34
    Believe. Anti.Hero's Avatar
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    And for many of them they have stupid ing debt. Another man should not have to support them.

    Can't afford your kids, you shouldn't have ing had them.

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    Gone Crazy, be back later CrazyOne's Avatar
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    We've got a home in the Philippines to retire to if things get too bad over here. I hope to retire before they change the name of the country to U.S.S.A.

  11. #36
    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
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    That is the single worst advice one can offer for the long term.

    An investment in one ounce of gold in 1980 would have offered a return in 2008 of about $500 on a $200 investment. (sold for $700)

    That same $200 bucks invested in say, Ford, would be worth (even today) over $30,000

    Ownership of a positive series of cash flows is better than owning a static asset any day.

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    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
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    And for many of them they have stupid ing debt. Another man should not have to support them.

    Can't afford your kids, you shouldn't have ing had them.
    I seriously hope that at some point you are struck too ill to work with an expensive illness for a prolonged period of time until your health insurance kicks you out. Have fun with that.

  13. #38
    4 Star Asshole Strike's Avatar
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    The day I can afford to not work is the day I stop working.

    Which, according to numbers I've crunched, should be when I'm about 214 years old.

  14. #39
    Veteran exstatic's Avatar
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    You realize don't you, that his pension with GM isn't funded and when they run out of cash and declare bankruptcy thats one of the first things that will get reduced/eliminated, right?
    Not true at all. PBGC will cover any defaulted pensions up to like $51,000 per year.

  15. #40
    The Sean Marks Dance Duff McCartney's Avatar
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    There is too much poverty, social injustice, malnutrition, starvation, and genocide in the world for me to ever retire. When those things are eliminated then I'll retire.

  16. #41
    Ragecycling.com Vinnie_Johnson's Avatar
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    My 201k is not going to let me retire anytime soon.

  17. #42
    Inthe land of audiophiles angelbelow's Avatar
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    45.

  18. #43
    Optomistic but Realistic MrChug's Avatar
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    Retire? Retiring's for pu$$ies. Be happy you have a job, it's your American duty.

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    Believe. Anti.Hero's Avatar
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    I seriously hope that at some point you are struck too ill to work with an expensive illness for a prolonged period of time until your health insurance kicks you out. Have fun with that.
    I am a pessimist. I plan for like that

    Common sense and discipline trumps most that Murphy will throw at you in life.

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