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    Student of Liberty Galileo's Avatar
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    Since 1989, when the Spurs drafted Sean Elliott, they have only had one lottery pick.

    Only one lottery pick in 19 years!

    The other NBA teams have been stockpiling lottery picks for 19 years, while the Spurs have been stockpiling wins and championships. Now time may have caught up with us.

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    The spurs problems are on D and rebounding. That trend started a couple years ago and has gotten woarse over the last three seasons. If the Spurs are gonna stick with the 2010 plan, then it is likely we will suffer this year and be a lottery team or at best 8th seed.

    A healthy spurs team in the 8th seed wont be an easy out but I cant see us winning a le from the 8th spot.

    Ian can help if he plays the way the spurs expect, but I am clueless why we have not made a move yet. S Williams is riding the pine in NJ and they have made it known he can be had. He would be a perfect fit.

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    The other NBA teams have been stockpiling lottery picks for 19 years, while the Spurs have been stockpiling wins and championships. Now time may have caught up with us.
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    remember kids, "success is bad"

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    S Williams is riding the pine in NJ and they have made it known he can be had. He would be a perfect fit.
    Yeah another 5p 4reb guy will DEFINITELY save our season.

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    2006 Andrea Bargnani- LaMarcus Aldridge -Adam Morrison -Tyrus Thomas -Shelden Williams
    2005 Andrew Bogut -Marvin Williams -Deron Williams -Chris Paul -Raymond Felton
    2004 Dwight Howard -Emeka Okafor -Ben Gordon -Shaun Livingston -Devin Harris
    2003 LeBron James -Darko Milicic -Carmelo Anthony -Chris Bosh -Dwyane Wade
    2002 Yao Ming -Jay Williams -Mike Dunleavy -Drew Gooden -Nikoloz Tskitishvili
    2001 Kwame Brown -Tyson Chandler -Pau Gasol -Eddy Curry -Jason Richardson
    2000 Kenyon Martin -Stromile Swift -Darius Miles -Marcus Fizer -Mike Miller
    1999 Elton Brand -Steve Francis -Baron Davis -Lamar Odom -Jonathan Bender
    1998 Michael Olowokandi -Mike Bibby -Raef LaFrentz -Antawn Jamison -Vince Carter
    1997 Tim Duncan -Keith Van Horn -Chauncey Billups -Antonio Daniels -Tony Battie
    1996 Allen Iverson -Marcus Camby -Shareef Abdur-Rahim -Stephon Marbury -Ray Allen
    1995 Joe Smith -Antonio McDyess -Jerry Stackhouse -Rasheed Wallace -Kevin Garnett
    1994 Glenn Robinson -Jason Kidd -Grant Hill -Donyell Marshall -Juwan Howard
    1993 Chris Webber -Shawn Bradley -Anfernee Hardaway -Jamal Mashburn -Isaiah Rider
    1992 Shaquille O'Neal -Alonzo Mourning -Christian Laettner -Jim Jackson -LaPhonso Ellis
    1991 Larry Johnson -Kenny Anderson -Billy Owens -Dikembe Mutombo -Steve Smith
    1990 Derrick Coleman -Gary Payton -Chris Jackson -Dennis Scott -Kendall Gill
    1989 Pervis Ellison -Danny Ferry -Sean Elliott -Glen Rice -J.R. Reid
    1988 Danny Manning -Rik Smits -Charles Smith -Chris Morris -Mitch Richmond
    1987 David Robinson -Armon Gilliam -Dennis Hopson -Reggie Williams -Scottie Pippen
    1986 Brad Daugherty -Len Bias -Chris Washburn -Chuck Person -Kenny Walker
    1985 Patrick Ewing Wayman Tisdale Benoit Benjamin Xavier McDaniel Jon Koncak
    1984 Hakeem Olajuwon Sam Bowie Michael Jordan Sam Perkins Charles Barkley
    1983 Ralph Sampson Steve Stipanovich Rodney McCray Byron Scott Sidney Green
    1982 James Worthy Terry mings Dominique Wilkins Bill Garnett LaSalle Thompson
    1981 Mark Aguirre Isiah Thomas Buck Williams Al Wood Danny Vranes
    1980 Joe Barry Carroll Darrell Griffith Kevin McHale Kelvin Ransey James Ray
    Year No. 6 No. 7 No. 8 No. 9 No. 10
    2006 Brandon Roy Randy Foye Rudy Gay Patrick O'Bryant Saer Sene
    2005 Martell Webster Charlie Villanueva Channing Frye Ike Diogu Andrew Bynum
    2004 Josh Childress Luol Deng Rafael Araujo Andre Iguodala Luke Jackson
    2003 Chris Kaman Kirk Hinrich T.J. Ford Mike Sweetney Jarvis Hayes
    2002 Dajuan Wagner Nene Hilario Chris Wilcox Amare Stoudemire Caron Butler
    2001 Shane Battier Eddie Griffin DeSagana Diop Rodney White Joe Johnson
    2000 DerMarr Johnson Chris Mihm Jamal Crawford Joel Pryzbilla Keyon Dooling
    1999 Wally Szczerbiak Richard Hamilton Andre Miller Shawn Marion Jason Terry
    1998 Robert Traylor Jason Williams Larry Hughes Dirk Nowitzki Paul Pierce
    1997 Ron Mercer Tim Thomas Adonal Foyle Tracy McGrady Danny Fortson
    1996 Antoine Walker Lorenzen Wright Kerry Kittles Samaki Walker Erick Dampier
    1995 Bryant Reeves Damon Stoudamire Shawn Respert Ed O'Bannon Kurt Thomas
    1994 Sharone Wright Lamond Murray Brian Grant Eric Montross Eddie Jones
    1993 Calbert Cheaney Bobby Hurley Vin Baker Rodney Rogers Lindsey Hunter
    1992 Tom Gugliotta Walt Williams Todd Day Clarence Weatherspoon Adam Keefe
    1991 Doug Smith Luc Longley Mark Macon Stacey Augmon Brian Williams
    1990 Felton Spencer Lionel Simmons Bo Kimble Willie Burton Rumeal Robinson
    1989 Stacey King George McCloud Randy White Tom Hammonds Pooh Richardson
    1988 Hersey Hawkins Tim Perry Rex Chapman Rony Seikaly Willie Anderson
    1987 Kenny Smith Kevin Johnson Olden Polynice Derrick McKey Horace Grant
    1986 William Bedford Roy Tarpley Ron Harper Brad Sellers Johnny Dawkins
    1985 Joe Kleine Chris Mullin Detlef Schrempf Charles Oakley Ed Pinckney
    1984 Mel Turpin Alvin Robertson Lancaster Gordon Otis Thorpe Leon Wood
    1983 Russell Cross Thurl Bailey Antoine Carr Dale Ellis Jeff Malone
    1982 Trent Tucker Quintin Dailey Clark Kellogg Cliff Levingston Keith Edmonson
    1981 Orlando Woolridge Steve Johnson Tom Chambers Rolando Blackman Albert King
    1980 Mike O'Koren Mike Gminksi Andrew Toney Michael Brooks Ronnie Lester


    How many champs you see in there?

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    Yeah another 5p 4reb guy will DEFINITELY save our season.
    A 21 yr old, 6-10 shot blocking machine would make a huge diff!
    If he gets starter mins he would avg 10ppg 10rpg and 3-4 blocks pr game, are you telling me that wouldnt help out a bunch.

    You dont know much about basket ball, the spurs are losing cause they cannot rebound or stop guys in the paint, Williams can do both.

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    2006 Andrea Bargnani- LaMarcus Aldridge -Adam Morrison -Tyrus Thomas -Shelden Williams
    2005 Andrew Bogut -Marvin Williams -Deron Williams -Chris Paul -Raymond Felton
    2004 Dwight Howard -Emeka Okafor -Ben Gordon -Shaun Livingston -Devin Harris
    2003 LeBron James -Darko Milicic -Carmelo Anthony -Chris Bosh -Dwyane Wade
    2002 Yao Ming -Jay Williams -Mike Dunleavy -Drew Gooden -Nikoloz Tskitishvili
    2001 Kwame Brown -Tyson Chandler -Pau Gasol -Eddy Curry -Jason Richardson
    2000 Kenyon Martin -Stromile Swift -Darius Miles -Marcus Fizer -Mike Miller
    1999 Elton Brand -Steve Francis -Baron Davis -Lamar Odom -Jonathan Bender
    1998 Michael Olowokandi -Mike Bibby -Raef LaFrentz -Antawn Jamison -Vince Carter
    1997 Tim Duncan -Keith Van Horn -Chauncey Billups -Antonio Daniels -Tony Battie
    1996 Allen Iverson -Marcus Camby -Shareef Abdur-Rahim -Stephon Marbury -Ray Allen
    1995 Joe Smith -Antonio McDyess -Jerry Stackhouse -Rasheed Wallace -Kevin Garnett
    1994 Glenn Robinson -Jason Kidd -Grant Hill -Donyell Marshall -Juwan Howard
    1993 Chris Webber -Shawn Bradley -Anfernee Hardaway -Jamal Mashburn -Isaiah Rider
    1992 Shaquille O'Neal -Alonzo Mourning -Christian Laettner -Jim Jackson -LaPhonso Ellis
    1991 Larry Johnson -Kenny Anderson -Billy Owens -Dikembe Mutombo -Steve Smith
    1990 Derrick Coleman -Gary Payton -Chris Jackson -Dennis Scott -Kendall Gill
    1989 Pervis Ellison -Danny Ferry -Sean Elliott -Glen Rice -J.R. Reid
    1988 Danny Manning -Rik Smits -Charles Smith -Chris Morris -Mitch Richmond
    1987 David Robinson -Armon Gilliam -Dennis Hopson -Reggie Williams -Scottie Pippen
    1986 Brad Daugherty -Len Bias -Chris Washburn -Chuck Person -Kenny Walker
    1985 Patrick Ewing Wayman Tisdale Benoit Benjamin Xavier McDaniel Jon Koncak
    1984 Hakeem Olajuwon Sam Bowie Michael Jordan Sam Perkins Charles Barkley
    1983 Ralph Sampson Steve Stipanovich Rodney McCray Byron Scott Sidney Green
    1982 James Worthy Terry mings Dominique Wilkins Bill Garnett LaSalle Thompson
    1981 Mark Aguirre Isiah Thomas Buck Williams Al Wood Danny Vranes
    1980 Joe Barry Carroll Darrell Griffith Kevin McHale Kelvin Ransey James Ray
    Year No. 6 No. 7 No. 8 No. 9 No. 10
    2006 Brandon Roy Randy Foye Rudy Gay Patrick O'Bryant Saer Sene
    2005 Martell Webster Charlie Villanueva Channing Frye Ike Diogu Andrew Bynum
    2004 Josh Childress Luol Deng Rafael Araujo Andre Iguodala Luke Jackson
    2003 Chris Kaman Kirk Hinrich T.J. Ford Mike Sweetney Jarvis Hayes
    2002 Dajuan Wagner Nene Hilario Chris Wilcox Amare Stoudemire Caron Butler
    2001 Shane Battier Eddie Griffin DeSagana Diop Rodney White Joe Johnson
    2000 DerMarr Johnson Chris Mihm Jamal Crawford Joel Pryzbilla Keyon Dooling
    1999 Wally Szczerbiak Richard Hamilton Andre Miller Shawn Marion Jason Terry
    1998 Robert Traylor Jason Williams Larry Hughes Dirk Nowitzki Paul Pierce
    1997 Ron Mercer Tim Thomas Adonal Foyle Tracy McGrady Danny Fortson
    1996 Antoine Walker Lorenzen Wright Kerry Kittles Samaki Walker Erick Dampier
    1995 Bryant Reeves Damon Stoudamire Shawn Respert Ed O'Bannon Kurt Thomas
    1994 Sharone Wright Lamond Murray Brian Grant Eric Montross Eddie Jones
    1993 Calbert Cheaney Bobby Hurley Vin Baker Rodney Rogers Lindsey Hunter
    1992 Tom Gugliotta Walt Williams Todd Day Clarence Weatherspoon Adam Keefe
    1991 Doug Smith Luc Longley Mark Macon Stacey Augmon Brian Williams
    1990 Felton Spencer Lionel Simmons Bo Kimble Willie Burton Rumeal Robinson
    1989 Stacey King George McCloud Randy White Tom Hammonds Pooh Richardson
    1988 Hersey Hawkins Tim Perry Rex Chapman Rony Seikaly Willie Anderson
    1987 Kenny Smith Kevin Johnson Olden Polynice Derrick McKey Horace Grant
    1986 William Bedford Roy Tarpley Ron Harper Brad Sellers Johnny Dawkins
    1985 Joe Kleine Chris Mullin Detlef Schrempf Charles Oakley Ed Pinckney
    1984 Mel Turpin Alvin Robertson Lancaster Gordon Otis Thorpe Leon Wood
    1983 Russell Cross Thurl Bailey Antoine Carr Dale Ellis Jeff Malone
    1982 Trent Tucker Quintin Dailey Clark Kellogg Cliff Levingston Keith Edmonson
    1981 Orlando Woolridge Steve Johnson Tom Chambers Rolando Blackman Albert King
    1980 Mike O'Koren Mike Gminksi Andrew Toney Michael Brooks Ronnie Lester


    How many champs you see in there?
    Wade, Shaq, D-Rob, Hakeem, Duncan, Billips, Ray Allen, Garnett, Jordan, Horace Grant, A-Daniels, Thorpe, Kenny Smith, Danny Ferrt of the top of my head.

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    2006 Andrea Bargnani- LaMarcus Aldridge -Adam Morrison -Tyrus Thomas -Shelden Williams
    2005 Andrew Bogut -Marvin Williams -Deron Williams -Chris Paul -Raymond Felton
    2004 Dwight Howard -Emeka Okafor -Ben Gordon -Shaun Livingston -Devin Harris
    2003 LeBron James -Darko Milicic -Carmelo Anthony -Chris Bosh -Dwyane Wade
    2002 Yao Ming -Jay Williams -Mike Dunleavy -Drew Gooden -Nikoloz Tskitishvili
    2001 Kwame Brown -Tyson Chandler -Pau Gasol -Eddy Curry -Jason Richardson
    2000 Kenyon Martin -Stromile Swift -Darius Miles -Marcus Fizer -Mike Miller
    1999 Elton Brand -Steve Francis -Baron Davis -Lamar Odom -Jonathan Bender
    1998 Michael Olowokandi -Mike Bibby -Raef LaFrentz -Antawn Jamison -Vince Carter
    1997 Tim Duncan -Keith Van Horn -Chauncey Billups -Antonio Daniels -Tony Battie
    1996 Allen Iverson -Marcus Camby -Shareef Abdur-Rahim -Stephon Marbury -Ray Allen
    1995 Joe Smith -Antonio McDyess -Jerry Stackhouse -Rasheed Wallace -Kevin Garnett
    1994 Glenn Robinson -Jason Kidd -Grant Hill -Donyell Marshall -Juwan Howard
    1993 Chris Webber -Shawn Bradley -Anfernee Hardaway -Jamal Mashburn -Isaiah Rider
    1992 Shaquille O'Neal -Alonzo Mourning -Christian Laettner -Jim Jackson -LaPhonso Ellis
    1991 Larry Johnson -Kenny Anderson -Billy Owens -Dikembe Mutombo -Steve Smith
    1990 Derrick Coleman -Gary Payton -Chris Jackson -Dennis Scott -Kendall Gill
    1989 Pervis Ellison -Danny Ferry -Sean Elliott -Glen Rice -J.R. Reid
    1988 Danny Manning -Rik Smits -Charles Smith -Chris Morris -Mitch Richmond
    1987 David Robinso n-Armon Gilliam -Dennis Hopson -Reggie Williams -Scottie Pippen
    1986 Brad Daugherty -Len Bias -Chris Washburn -Chuck Person -Kenny Walker
    1985 Patrick Ewing Wayman Tisdale Benoit Benjamin Xavier McDaniel Jon Koncak
    1984 Hakeem Olajuwon Sam Bowie Michael Jordan Sam Perkins Charles Barkley
    1983 Ralph Sampson Steve Stipanovich Rodney McCray Byron Scott Sidney Green
    1982 James Worthy Terry mings Dominique Wilkins Bill Garnett LaSalle Thompson
    1981 Mark Aguirre Isiah Thomas Buck Williams Al Wood Danny Vranes
    1980 Joe Barry Carroll Darrell Griffith Kevin McHale Kelvin Ransey James Ray


    How many champs you see in there?
    Last edited by angelbelow; 11-11-2008 at 04:39 PM.

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    Ok let me rephrase. How many difference makers were there?


    Plus AB, Barkley was never a champ

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    Since 1989, when the Spurs drafted Sean Elliott, they have only had one lottery pick.

    Only one lottery pick in 19 years!

    The other NBA teams have been stockpiling lottery picks for 19 years, while the Spurs have been stockpiling wins and championships. Now time may have caught up with us.
    That's kinda the point. Good teams get low picks because they don't need help. Bad teams get good picks because they do. That just means the system is working.

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    Inthe land of audiophiles angelbelow's Avatar
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    Ok let me rephrase. How many difference makers were there?


    Plus AB, Barkley was never a champ
    LOL i cant believe i bolded him.

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    Oh, waaa. Woe is us. We only got one lottery pick and ended up with one of the two easiest picks in the draft and one of probably the top two or three players in the NBA to come out during that stretch.

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