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    If he had an expiring contract, then I could see it, but $11 mil per for the next 4 years?

    Not!
    I'd do it, we're talking about giving Duncan good help possibly through his end years. This is a major area we lack, and it's not as though Mahinmi can't get good minutes in there to bring him along, as he is still raw.

    Kaman is a worker, this is the same man who went to summer league more than once, and it was his choice in order to keep up and improve his game.

    I see nothing wrong here, and Manu looks good right now. So I don't see him not getting resigned. We may have to give a player or two away, but who cares, it's not like it would be George, Mahinmi, or Mason.

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    If he had an expiring contract, then I could see it, but $11 mil per for the next 4 years?

    Not!

    I think its 9.5 mill.....

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    if its a trade for bonner and vaughn or fin do it. anything other than that i'll pass. I rather have curry.

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    Anybody have an idea as to what kind of defender he is?
    He is a very good player all around. Nice hook shot, can face up can pass, a good shot blocker and runs nearly as well as gasol.

    He would be a great pick up. But I dont see the Spurs giving up that 2010 plan and getting him would take them out of the running for any of the top 5 guys.

    I have to say, if the Clippers are willing to shed salary and take back some short contracts on busted players and maybe a pick or the rights to Splitter I would jump on this deal.

    A line up of Kaman Dumcan Parker Manu and Fin or Mason on the floor would be as good as it gets in the west.

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    As for Vescey, I think he broke both the Kidd trade and the recent Chauncey Billups trade.

    His commentary is often idiotic but his trade rumors aren't bad at all.
    I'll never forget Vescey in a span of 5 days saying Grant Hill would:

    1) Stay in Detroit
    2) Sign with the Spurs for the $1.2 million mid-level exception
    3) Sign with Philadelphia (reported this one on draft night)
    4) Go to the Knicks

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    I'd do it, we're talking about giving Duncan good help possibly through his end years. This is a major area we lack, and it's not as though Mahinmi can't get good minutes in there to bring him along, as he is still raw.

    Kaman is a worker, this is the same man who went to summer league more than once, and it was his choice in order to keep up and improve his game.

    I see nothing wrong here, and Manu looks good right now. So I don't see him not getting resigned. We may have to give a player or two away, but who cares, it's not like it would be George, Mahinmi, or Mason.

    EDIT: As in, we most likely wouldn't give up these three players, so if it happened, it wouldn't be at the expense of a young duo, and a third recent important addition. All other players aside from the core three, one perimeter defender (probably Bowen) and these three I just mentioned are fair play for a Kaman acquisition. Plus, picks, rights to players etc.

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    Do it, Pop!!! Imo, the only players that should be exempted from this trade are Tim, Tony, Manu, Mason, Hill, Ian, Tolliver, Farmer, and Ime. But I'm iffy about Farmer, they just bring in Hairston then. But if Fab+KT+Bonner get traded, then bring Watkins back in. I'd prefer they keep one of Fab or KT, but not both.

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    Besides, they're not going to snag LeBron, Wade, Kobe, or even Bosh. , we can't get free agent to come to the Alamo City even during bear market free agency periods. Why would they come in 2 years, when the number of teams in the FA market will be significant?
    Exactly. Although i will hold on to my impossible hope of getting Bosh in 2010, and there will be lots of mid-lower level players on the market as well, after seeing Pargo decide he would rather live in Russia than play for us I've pretty much given up on Free Agency. People say that the Spurs FO is great at finding "diamonds in the rough" or hidden talents for cheap like Mason. But the truth is its out of necessity. No one that is getting decent offers from other teams(even if they're on the other side of the world) is going to choose to come to the spurs.

    Know why? Probably something about how they see an All-NBA player in Manu getting paid LESS than Kaman.

    So, in conclusion, yes take Kaman! I know there's almost no REAL shot at us doing it, but the spurs should stop thinking about 2010 FAs, and start taking opportunities to build up "Tony's Spurs" NOW.

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    I don't think Mahinmi will ever be as good a Center as Kaman, he's just too skinny and has a hard time adding weight. I think he's around 220 pounds, 6'11 right now.

    But he'd be a great power forward if he can refine his mid-range shooting.
    Mahinmi has put on some weight. I believe he's bulked up quite nicely to about 245-250 lbs. Sean mentioned that he was much bigger than before.

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    how has this post gone 2+ pages without anyone posting Chris Kaman's most famous NBA moment? Remember Reggie Evans tugging on Kaman's junk in the playoffs a couple of years ago?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFcinlrgojk

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    kaman aint bad, i watch him all the time. one of the bright spots on the clippers last year. i wouldn't say he has bad bball iq either. its just not at a genius level but its not either. Kaman would certainly solve a lot of problems. he could be considered a goto scorer during our droughts and although hes not a great defender he'll get 2+ blocks a game.

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    how has this post gone 2+ pages without anyone posting Chris Kaman's most famous NBA moment? Remember Reggie Evans tugging on Kaman's junk in the playoffs a couple of years ago?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFcinlrgojk
    "Hand in the Cookie Jar"

    "he grabbed my nuts, you can say it"

    "What just happened, I just got violated right"

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    I don't think Mahinmi will ever be as good a Center as Kaman, he's just too skinny and has a hard time adding weight. I think he's around 220 pounds, 6'11 right now.

    But he'd be a great power forward if he can refine his mid-range shooting.
    Hes still more of a center than Oberto and probly Thomas, there no real Center and PF in the Spurs system anyway so Duncan could easily guard the bigger guys and Mahinmi the quicker 4's. I think hes more what we need that a Chris Kaman type back to the basket Center. Kaman isnt gonna slow down guys like West and Stoudemire.

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    Hes still more of a center than Oberto and probly Thomas, there no real Center and PF in the Spurs system anyway so Duncan could easily guard the bigger guys and Mahinmi the quicker 4's. I think hes more what we need that a Chris Kaman type back to the basket Center. Kaman isnt gonna slow down guys like West and Stoudemire.
    Yeah, but it's an improvement, and if we don't have to sacrifice Mahinmi, Hill, Mason, Duncan, Bowen, Parker and Ginobili. Then why not? I would like to keep Oberto, but if he has to go then so be it. It's kind of unrealistic to prohibit moving some of these players, but if it could get done, i'm on board.

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    "Hand in the Cookie Jar"
    I don't know where YOU have been getting your cookies but I don't get them there.

    One of the best moments in the Ernie/Kenny/Chuck Show.

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    Hes still more of a center than Oberto and probly Thomas, there no real Center and PF in the Spurs system anyway so Duncan could easily guard the bigger guys and Mahinmi the quicker 4's. I think hes more what we need that a Chris Kaman type back to the basket Center. Kaman isnt gonna slow down guys like West and Stoudemire.
    With the West having both huge power forwards and Centers, I think it will be a bit difficult.

    But Spur-Addict and another poster said he's up to 250 now so never mind, that's plenty good size for a Center. I thought he was still 220, that wouldn't have gotten it done.

    There was that trade scenario somebody brought up "Bowen-Oberto-Bonner" for Kaman & Novak. Not a bad trade idea at all and I can see positives for both sides out of that deal. Seems that the Clippers are also gearing up for 2010 and don't want both Kaman & Camby.

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    I don't know where YOU have been getting your cookies but I don't get them there.

    One of the best moments in the Ernie/Kenny/Chuck Show.


    Gotta love it. It's rare getting these moments in sports tv.

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    Mahinmi has put on some weight. I believe he's bulked up quite nicely to about 245-250 lbs. Sean mentioned that he was much bigger than before.
    Ian has more physical tools than Kaman but Kaman is more refined. If Ian works hard he has the chance to be as good or better than Kaman, but thats if. Lots of guys have loads of skill and never develop.

    See Keon Clark!

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    With the West having both huge power forwards and Centers, I think it will be a bit difficult.

    But Spur-Addict and another poster said he's up to 250 now so never mind, that's plenty good size for a Center. I thought he was still 220, that wouldn't have gotten it done.

    There was that trade scenario somebody brought up "Bowen-Oberto-Bonner" for Kaman & Novak. Not a bad trade idea at all and I can see positives for both sides out of that deal. Seems that the Clippers are also gearing up for 2010 and don't want both Kaman & Camby.


    Good points, but no way do the spurs give up bowen.

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    In the current situation, ouside TP/manu/TD/mason/hill we can trade everything else to have him but it won't happen.

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    Good points, but no way do the spurs give up bowen.
    What if he pulled a Brent Barry?

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