do you even remember how that turned out???
I'm not a fan of Marbury but I'd love to have him as a player for the Spurs and if it dsoesn't work out then we have a nice trade asset. SA is a great place for him to start over at the tail end of his career. Remember the Knicks allowed the Spurs to use their charter during the playoffs against the Hornets so I expect some talking to be going on on some level but the only way Marbury is coming here is off waivers and a big pay cut.
Marbury. I'd rather have David Lee.
For those of you saying its a "smokescreen" to increase his value, its a given he won't be getting more than the veteran's minimum after such a large contract buyout.
And since he has no agent, this means its the real deal through and through.
yea, Nick knees gave out and Damon couldn't get into the rotation. Had nothing to do with at ude or being a cancer. You can't pass on a player like Marbury who isn't washed up as a player, just the Knicks are trying to salvage their organization much like Portland had to by shipping out their bad eggs. Image is nothing, thirst is... forget that
Parker/Hill
Ginobili/Marbury/Finley
Bowen/Mason/Udoka
Duncan/Mahinmi/Bonner
Oberto/Thomas
Dont see no problem there....
exactly. those 2 experiments were embarrasing failures.
Do you even know that Marbury has not taken to a NBA court in months? he is probably not even in game shape. please stop the madness. Just say no
For 1 or 2M, you take the risk.
If it works... great.
If not, Pop's doghouse.
We have a young gifted PG to develop, we need a Big not a PG
I'd say that a fundamental difference between Marbury (on the one hand) and guys like Charlie Ward, Nick Van Exel, and Damon Stoudamire lies in this fact: all of the guys not named Marbury came to the Spurs after being a significant part of very successful teams -- teams that were successful, at least in part, because of what those guys did. Ward's Knicks teams played in the Finals and several conference finals, Van Exel's teams went to the conference finals at least twice, as did Stoudamire's. Those guys were at the end of the rope, but they were established winners who were looking to take that one last step and saw San Antonio as the means to accomplish that.
Marbury, on the other hand, has never played a game after May 2.
S. Marbury is the ultimate looser.
Within a list of basketball players, you restrict and consider only the right human beings.
The one with the right at ude.
That's how you win consistently.
Take that statement of his, for example.
"I can play the 1 and the 2 positions." is exactly the WRONG statement, considering his CV.
The right statement is: "I will do whatever is required for winning. From playing defense to buying sodas to George Hill."
You will never hear that.
Marbury is NOT GOING TO LEAD US TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP!!
man you guys act like hes going to be our starting PG in the playoffs. Hes going to be a bench player and he knows that if he were to come to the spurs. be happy to come off the bench for Ginobili. right now he wants to ressurect his career and what better place to do it than San Antonio.
You people watch ESPN too much to believe that Marbury is like the anti-christ or something.
I could be wrong, but I don't think Tim particularly enjoyed playing with Marbury in Athens. And I'd have to imagine he'd have some input on the subject.
I think if he doesn't work out you can just waive him, he'll only make vet min so not sure how a waived vet counts against the cap. Starbury > Farmer not sure you can question that.
Oberto will make sure this insane move never happens.
he hates marbury since marbury broke his hand that prevented Oberto from playing in the Argentina gold medal game. According to Oberto, Marbury was trying to injure him since USA was losing that game.
Not to mention Pop coached that failure of team USA. So he knows what cancer a guy like marbury can be.
marbury is as selfish as they come and unapologetic and delusional. He still expects to play major minutes for any team in the league.
Even D'antoni won't play him. come on...
Well I would have mixed feelings about that. Looking at the situation right now, I would probably do it. He would come cheap and I don't think he would be able to disrupt the team chemistry. The core is together for years. The worst thing that could happen is: you wave him. If he can still score I would give it a shot. You still have Hill and Vaughn. I don't really see a big risk there...
Ordinarily, I would tend to agree with that statement. Isiah Thomas may be the biggest asshole to ever coach in the NBA - and definitely one of the craziest. Unfortunately, he and Marbury are too much alike. I can see that a lot of good players would suffer playing under Isiah Thomas, but Marbury pissed on his teammates in the process.
When the other players hold a team meeting and say they don't want you on the floor, the problem isn't the coach. (Of course, Thomas turned around and ignored the players and put Marbury in the game anyway.) I don't ever remember another player dumping on his teammates as badly as Marbury. He is the poster child for locker room cancer. He's one of the few guys in the league who would actually believe he could come here and make Tim Duncan a better player.
Even if the Spurs were prepared to ignore his at ude problems - there was a story this summer that he bought a $45 Million private jet. He's going to need more money than we can pay him, just to cover the upkeep on that beast. He doesn't have an agent. (Another clue.) But Billy Hunter said that he would not be interested in a buyout of 80-cents-on-the-dollar. Knowing Marbury, he'll expect to get a buyout and actually turn a profit for the year.
Bull . Why in the do you think he'd be content coming off the bench, when he knows that he's instantly one of the most talented guys on the roster? Also, what the has this guy accomplished? You're acting like this guy is Magic Johnson? Dude has never won . He's never played the game for no one else but himself. Wake up man!
Amare Stoudamire had the same complaint about him. This guy has left a trail of scorched earth everywhere he's been. Yet people, many on this board, can't seem to get past the name of the back of the jersey. This is a guy that didn't want to play 2nd fiddle to KG. WTFU.
what? how do you know this for sure? or are you just making up?
Up til today, marbury has been all about himself, and him being the star of any team he has been in. what makes you think this will be different?
If he doesn't you can just WAIVE him... low risk, high reward possibility I think.
bahaha.....i never even gave the assumption that he as even near Magic Johnsons level. You guys are always complaining that the spurs are unathletic and cant score the ball. Marubury will bring the team scoring. Also you act as though hes going to destroy the team. cmon man, im sure youre a smart intelligent logical thinker. Do you think marbury will be a cancer to the team and make it unfunctional? He has never won becuase he has been selfish. Ive never said he wasnt a horrible team player. I just think he has changed his viewpoints, i think every one deserves a second chance to turn a new leaf. The Spurs need scoring and this guy can bring it.
I ASSUME he could come down to this decision. Get paid to start and lose? OR get paid less to come off the bench and win?
its a crossroads im sure hes contemplated. I think hes willing to take a smaller role to win.
a lot of bull being said about Steph..
I live in NY, I've met Marbury several times, I'm witnessing first-hand the bull the media and the team is saying about him..
first of all, you don't say no to talent..if he signed with this team, he WOULDN'T sign a big contract, it would be relatively small..if it doesn't work out, he won't play..but my question is, why wouldn't it work out?..
-Marbury is HIGHLY motivated to prove his MANY doubters wrong..similar to Rasheed Wallace when he joined the Pistons, similar to Ron Artest this year..there's NO WAY Steph further tarnishes his legacy by being a team cancer, since that's how he's already viewed..Marbury seems like he genuinely wants to win, and he realizes that would change his entire image..
-A lot of you underestimate OUR team..Pop is THE BEST coach in the NBA, and it's not even close IMO..Tim Duncan is at worst the 2nd best player of this generation and a top 10 player of all-time..I think people are underestimating the respect that EVERYBODY in the NBA has for these 2, and I think their impact is being forgotten here..there's no way Marbury would be able to pull anything off with Popovich and Duncan on this team..everybody knows our organization is the best in basketball right now, and they all know how we do it..Marbury would obviously know that coming into this situation..
-We don't need Steph to play the 1(obviously), but he could easily play a backup SG role..he's never had a coach like Pop to motivate him and force him to play defense, and everybody knows he's still a talented player..I'd LOVE to see any team in the NBA stop a combination of Parker/Ginobili/Mason/Steph/Hill..that's easily the best backcourt in the NBA, and would make up for our frontcourt problems..
-Marbury has a crazy personality, but he's a CLASS act..most people in NY love Steph..he's one of the best guys in the NBA when it comes to the community, he's always out here with the kids and helping neighborhoods..he's matured a lot since his Minnesota days..
my main thought here is that I don't see how somebody can be a "team cancer" playing for our team..Marbury would know the situation COMING IN..IF HE SIGNED WITH US, HE WOULD OBVIOUSLY REALIZE HE'D BE BEHIND PARKER AND GINOBILI..he would obviously know that coming into the situation, so clearly it would be irrelevant if he signed..he understands our goal is to win a le and how our organization is ran..if he wants to start, he'll sign with a different team..but if he does sign here, then he clearly realizes what his role would be..Marbury just wants to play..he came to camp thinking he was going to play, because that's what they told him..he was lied to by D'Antoni and the Knicks organization..he's obviously interested in playing basketball..he already has the money, he would be playing for free this year(basically)..
Some people need to wake up and realize this Spurs team is . Duncan is out there playing with a bunch of scrubs. If they don't make jump shots, they won't win a single game. I loved Finley... 3 years ago. Sure, he's good for 10 minutes a night, but he's not someone you give the ball to and look for scoring, like the Spurs are forced to do now. It's a joke. Yes, Marbury is selfish. THAT'S A GOOD THING. Go out there and gun. As a previous poster mentioned, he would instantly be one of the most talented players on the roster. I don't have a problem with him being selfish and taking shots at the expense of players like Ime Udoka, George Hill and Desmond Farmer(who the is this guy btw?). Roll the ing dice. Maybe if the Spurs scrub front office did that once in awhile, we'd still have Scola on the roster, or maybe even Artest.
Yes. Because there are too many complaints from players that indicate they hate playing with the guy. I'm sure you follow the NBA, just like the rest of us. Can you find one player that has spoken out and stated how much they love playing with the guy?
No one is disputing his talents at all. The question is, at what risk are you willing to take, as an organization, to solicit his services? Also, tell me what exactly has you convinced that he's changed his selfish ways?
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