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Avery was coaching the same way that Greg Popovich, Doc Rivers, Pat Railey, and Larry Brown were coaching: Defense first, controlled offense second. that is one of the most re ed firings in recent NBA history.
Avery was right. This was not a playoff team. This was (and is) a ty basketball team with zero heart. I think maybe Avery was the thing pushing them to be as good as they were, and the team, lazy s that they are, got tired of being pushed. Now they've got a coach pampering them, and they're responding with zero effort.
I'll be the first to admit it - I was 100% wrong about Avery.
Avery was coaching the same way that Greg Popovich, Doc Rivers, Pat Railey, and Larry Brown were coaching: Defense first, controlled offense second. that is one of the most re ed firings in recent NBA history.
Own up, Mavs fans. Avery was right, we all were wrong.
We should have known from the get-go that if we were siding with Cuban and Donnie, we were on the losing side of the issue.
Rick Carlisle, LOL.
Avery taught D but his O sets left alot to be admired....................unless you like isos,
At the time it really really seemed like Avery was choking the life out of the team.....turns out, he was squeezing what little life was left in a team with no heart.....and the lazy asses on the team resented him for getting the best out of him.
Cuban, with his man-crush for his players, sided with them.
Maning up?
Before they got Kidd, isos made the most sense.
After Kidd, they ran a lot fewer isos.
Nobody offered him a job cause he wouldn't take it, he gets a load of money for doing absolutely nothing. He makes more money staying at home then any team would offer him
Anyway, Dallas will get a lot better than they are now. But Avery was a pretty damn good coach.
Houston doesn't need a coach.
Avery was good, but he lost the team, and I think he sacrificed some of his iden y just for a job. At some point he has to bear blame for that. Realilstically, there has to be some additional blame for an owner that's so accessible that players violate the chain of command to complain to him. After watching tonight's game, it's shocking how little heart this group seems to have.
Avery wore out his welcome but the team has many more problems than just Avery, They want us to believe it was just Avery but it was alot deeper than that
The problem in Dallas starts at the top..........Avery doesn't have any blame to take, because he constantly had a owner that underminded him, which made it impossible to get his players' respect.
I always laughed when ESPN would talk about how great of a owner Mark Cuban was and suck up to him, because I knew this day would come. I mean everything worked great with Nellie, because Mark couldn't with Nellie.........Nellie is a proven HOF type coach.
Mark Cuban is the Jerry Jones of the NBA..........both owners can't stay out of their own way, both owners end up ing up both of their teams in the long run, and it's absolutely amazing that both of these owners own teams in the same damn city.........what are the ing odds of that?
Did Avery wear out his welcome, or did his insistence on pushing the team to play their best cause the lazy players to resent him?
Just like it's alot easier to throw up a fadeaway than it is to take a beating going to the rim, it's alot easier to just say "this coach is an asshole, get rid of him" than it is to keep buying into his system.
it who cares this team was doomed with or without Avery and I dont see him as the kind of guy to run a team thats trying to rebuild with a bunch of young guys bc im sure he would bring back Kevin Willis and start him at center
Yeah they don't........In Adelman's first season he only coached Houston to the second longest winning streak in NBA history without arguably their best player.
8 games into the season where we're 5-3 I'd say it's a little early to pull the plug.
I mean do you know how stupid Morey would look if he fired Adelman.....Morey would never get another GM job again and would be a complete laughing stock.
Last edited by Tmac&Luther; 11-13-2008 at 11:29 PM.
I'd put alot more faith in Avery inspiring a team of youngsters than I would Rick Carlisle. If Avery was committed to rebuilding the team I bet he'd do a great job at it.
As pointed out many times already, the problem is Cuban. He'd rather die than admit he was wrong and blow this team up.
Oh so every team that doesn't win this year needs to fire their coach huh.Dont get your hopes high this year...
Your logic makes no damn sense, but I realize your lack of respect for Adelman's coaching goes back to the Sac/LA rivalry days......so honestly it doesn't bother me, just alot of hot air.
Last edited by Tmac&Luther; 11-13-2008 at 11:32 PM.
Oh so every team that doesn't win this year needs to fire their coach huh.
Your logic makes no damn sense, but I realize your lack of respect for Adelman's coaching goes back to the Sac/LA rivalry days......so honestly it doesn't bother me, just alot of hot air.
What makes you think he's been a laker fan that long?
Yao and T-Back are two of the weakest minded star players in the league.
From what, a 7 point loss?
Take away the first 5 minutes or so of the game, and it was a 26 point blowout.
A positive from tonight.....The Mavs finally outscored a team in the 4th (21-20) and werent outplayed
Cant forget about Damp another monster game too bad it was wasted bc Dirk played like a pussy again
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