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    Thats the best way to get it done. Hurry up chumpsumpdump....
    If you ever posted anything coherent, you might get a response other than pity.

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    I said if he can keep his role. To keep his role, he'll have to shoot better than 20% on three-pointers. I'm not convinced he can do it but if he can shoot 35-36% on threes, that could be enough to keep him in the rotation.
    yeah, I remember what you were saying about Tolliver. I was wondering what you thought about about a diff role for him, if his shooting doesn't improve. I like him playing in the paint, at least so far.

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    could this also mean the Spurs are gonna try and sign some extra help in the short term? Doesn't this open up a roster spot?

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    could this also mean the Spurs are gonna try and sign some extra help in the short term? Doesn't this open up a roster spot?
    No, Ian is still on the Spurs' roster while he is assigned to Austin.

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    yeah, I remember what you were saying about Tolliver. I was wondering what you thought about about a diff role for him, if his shooting doesn't improve. I like him playing in the paint, at least so far.
    He did knock down a nice 15-footer last game but I still think he needs to be a three-point threat to survive in the NBA. We'll see, though, because the Spurs may be better off with Tolliver than other bigman options even if Tolliver is told to limit is three-point shooting.

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    I have an observation. has anyone noticed that Fab works real well to get open in the paint but doesnt call for the ball??? The only person who seems to know he is there is Manu in the past. Fab tends to pass up alot more opportunities then need be. Maybe thats why Players tend to not give up the pass to him so much. Thoughts??

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    I remember when Fab used to take a lot of passes right around the rim for some easy buckets. One game he did it 10 or 11 times. Was that last season or the one before?

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    If you ever posted anything coherent, you might get a response other than pity.
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    Scorn. Don't forget scorn.
    I was totally going to post that. I'd probably give him that too if I could decipher his code.

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    I remember when Fab used to take a lot of passes right around the rim for some easy buckets. One game he did it 10 or 11 times. Was that last season or the one before?
    against the suns i think

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    He did knock down a nice 15-footer last game but I still think he needs to be a three-point threat to survive in the NBA. We'll see, though, because the Spurs may be better off with Tolliver than other bigman options even if Tolliver is told to limit is three-point shooting.
    After watching him through preseason and so far in the regular season, it's pretty clear to me that he's, at best, a streaky three point shooter. He's still equally as likely to miss the rim completely as he is to make the shot, which isn't encouraging. I like so much of the rest of Anthony's game that it'd be really nice if he could score a bit. When defenders leave him completely open, he might as well be shooting from 18 feet as from 23 feet. How valuable is a guy like David West just for his ability to consistently hit the outside shot, despite the fact that he never shoots threes? I see no reason why Tolliver couldn't make a living canning those shots.

    I'd actually prefer all the Spurs start taking more jump shots from 2 point range. The Spurs will win a game because they shoot 11-18 from three point range and then go cold for six minutes the next game because they miss six in a row, or they'll think that they're good because the long distance shooting covered up the mistakes they made in a game. When you're dying for offense, the bump in shooting percentage more than makes up for the extra point in the long term.

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    I remember when Fab used to take a lot of passes right around the rim for some easy buckets. One game he did it 10 or 11 times. Was that last season or the one before?
    Yes, but where were those passes coming from? Without looking , I bet most came from Manu. Just stating that Fab is in position alot more then we notice and doesnt get the ball or he does, gives it up way to fast.

    Didnt mean to bring this into Ian thread, but not worth a new thread

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    This is actually good news. As many of us have speculated, Mahinmi will participate in Toros training camp as a means to get back into shape. He may even play a few games with Austin. But the ultimate goal, according to everyone who has talked about Mahinmi this season, is for him to end up back with the Spurs where he will fight for a spot in the rotation.

    Hopefully timing of the assignment indicates that he's healthy enough to start practicing. Seeing how Pop has given Tolliver a great opportunity, I fully trust that he will give Mahinmi the same opportunity whenever he's healthy and back in game shape.
    I agree with you timvp, no deception here it's a good news. By the way, IMO Oden should go to the D league to get back into shape. I've seen him against Miami he isn't ready to play.

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    yeah, has more to do with his rehab than anything else. They're aren't just going to stick him in there.

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    Yes, but where were those passes coming from? Without looking , I bet most came from Manu. Just stating that Fab is in position alot more then we notice and doesnt get the ball or he does, gives it up way to fast.

    Didnt mean to bring this into Ian thread, but not worth a new thread
    I agree. Manu's very good about finding him down there, usually with an amazing pass. But if he's open, the team should find a way to get it to him. It annoys me when a guy battles for position in the post and the other guys on the team don't feed it to him. It's why the Rockets sucked for so many years even though they had Yao.

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    Going to the D-league?? He's not coming back. You don't see other players going to the D-league to rehab. I bet it's more like the Spurs want him to kick ass in Austin so he looks better on paper then they will package him in a trade. I just hope we get a decent player in return, given the Spurs history of trading.

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    How long do you guys think it'll for him to get back to the Spurs?

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    How long do you guys think it'll for him to get back to the Spurs?
    He'll be back in December if he can stay healthy.

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    The nice part about the Toros' schedule is that they play their first ten games at home. They don't travel out of Austin until December 18th. The Spurs can keep Mahinmi in Austin for the next month under close supervision and then bring him back, if they so choose.

    The other option is to just keep him get about a week's worth of conditioning in before bringing him back to the Spurs. Either scenario is much better than the pre-DLeague days.

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    Going to the D-league?? He's not coming back. You don't see other players going to the D-league to rehab. I bet it's more like the Spurs want him to kick ass in Austin so he looks better on paper then they will package him in a trade. I just hope we get a decent player in return, given the Spurs history of trading.
    Huh? The Spurs don't have any other players that would qualify for the D-league that need to get back into game shape. Mahinmi's going there for minutes so they can get him back to San Antonio as soon as possible. I'm not sure how some of you think he's going to get game legs back sitting on the bench, walking to his hotel room or getting to practice once a week.

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    Cant he get in shape while playing with the Spurs?
    Not really -- not the way staying in one place for a few weeks with people training as hard as you and being able to play 30mpg right off the bat.
    Its not like our front court is worth a damn, now we have to let him warm up with chumps.
    He would suck horribly if he played right now.

    The Spurs are gonna dig themselves into a hole they cant get out of if they dont tighten up.
    Ian won't help at all if he's not in shape.

    Pops needs to take this time to make a move for a big or a small forward.
    So Ian is irrelevant. Thank you for your contribution.

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    Never said Ian is irrelevant, but does he alone solve the shot blocking, rebounding problems we have?
    He could help.
    How many mins is he gonna play?
    He could play as much as Tolliver is easily.
    What if he goes down again.
    What if the world ends tomorrow?
    Thomas and Oberto are not the answer.
    Great. Trade them for whom?

    How bad a shape could he be in.
    Compared to NBA players? Pretty bad.
    I played D1 ball and have had high ankle sprains....it doesnt take long to get your legs back.
    Good for you. You're amazing.
    He could come in and give the spurs 8-10mpg to start and build up.
    He could suck horribly for 8-10 minutes, sure.

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    Never said Ian is irrelevant, but does he alone solve the shot blocking, rebounding problems we have? How many mins is he gonna play? What if he goes down again. Thomas and Oberto are not the answer.

    How bad a shape could he be in. I played D1 ball and have had high ankle sprains....it doesnt take long to get your legs back. He could come in and give the spurs 8-10mpg to start and build up.


    Wow, the ridiculousness of your posts are already nearing classic proportions.

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    Spurs' Mahinmi sent to Austin for conditioning
    By Mike Monroe

    The Spurs finally got one of their injured players cleared to begin five-on-five drills, but help for their shorthanded roster remains a few weeks away.

    Power forward-center Ian Mahinmi has been assigned to the Spurs’ NBA Development League team, the Austin Toros. The right ankle he sprained in September is finally healed to the point he can begin contact drills.

    Mahinmi will use his time with the Toros to get in basketball condition and complete the rehabilitation process on his ankle.

    The Toros are in training camp, undergoing two-a-day drills.

    “He’s going to practice once, instead of twice a day,” Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said, “and scrimmaging on a limited basis to begin with. But at least he’s out on the court, doing something.”

    “He’s got to get in shape and get his rhythm back. He’s going to play, and that’s better than having him sit on the bench up here, that’s for sure.”

    There is no timetable for Mahinmi’s potential return to the Spurs roster.

    The 22-year-old big man from France split time during his rookie season between San Antonio and Austin, but spent the bulk of the season in the D-League. He averaged 16.8 points, 8.0 rebounds and 1.7 blocks in 46 games with the Toros in 2008.

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