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    Jack lord you're stupid.
    Sweet, the "I know you are but what am I" reply.


    Ok, let's do this then...........I know you are but what am I?

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    I am Galileo, founder of the Scientific Revolution! Obey authority!
    Wow.

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    When airplane staff make emergency calls from airplanes, the calls are always recorded, except on 9/11 it seems. Becasue if the plane crashes, the call is important evidence to know what happened.
    Not every number that an Airphone can call has the capability to record the call.

    You still haven't explained why only one 4-minute segment of a 25-minute call, is all that has survived from the dozens of emergency calls made that day.
    That is all that has been released. I have seen nothing saying the recordings that were actually made were lost or destroyed. My guess is there was a lot of time when nothing was said as the people Ong was speaking to were talking to other people trying to figure out what to do.

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    Why was legislation not passed after 9/11 to put armed air marshals on planes to prevent hijackings with "boxcutters"?
    It was. It's in the article that you linked in your first post but apparently failed to read or understand.

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    Chumper;

    You continue to change the subject. How does Laura Brown know the hijackers didn't have guns, when the person taking the emergency call gave specific information about who shot who, how many shots, and the exact seat numbers?

    Did you know the Laura Brown is a government employee?

    She was pressured into that statement.
    Where is your evidence that she was pressured?

    The call's notes were in shorthand and subject to misinterpretation.

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    Where is your evidence that she was pressured?

    The call's notes were in shorthand and subject to misinterpretation.
    How would the three hijackers on FL93 take over the plane with boxcutters, after losing the element of surprise?

    Why did you ask for the FAA memo, and then after I provided it, then you say it doesn't matter? You are playing a s game.

    Where does an FAA manager get the authority to change an eyewitness report from a staff member?

    Where's your evidence that the notes were subject to misinterpretation? The person who took the call from Ong and/or Sweeney would know that, not Laura Brown.

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    Not every number that an Airphone can call has the capability to record the call.

    That is all that has been released. I have seen nothing saying the recordings that were actually made were lost or destroyed. My guess is there was a lot of time when nothing was said as the people Ong was speaking to were talking to other people trying to figure out what to do.
    The calls are lost because they contain information that contradicts the "official" fairy tale.

    The calls are recorded at AA headquarters. They have to be, per regulations.

    The only calls not recorded are calls to family members.

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    The article says that several Air Marshals have been convicted of conspiracy charges. So it is no longer a theory.

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    The calls are lost because they contain information that contradicts the "official" fairy tale.
    There is nothing that says any recordings were lost.

    The calls are recorded at AA headquarters. They have to be, per regulations.
    Please give me a link to those regulations.

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    It was. It's in the article that you linked in your first post but apparently failed to read or understand.
    Only a small proportion of flights have armed Air Marshals since 9/11. If 9/11 was really carried out by people with boxcutters, all flights should have an armed guard on them.

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    Only a small proportion of flights have armed Air Marshals since 9/11.
    According to the article you posted but are too stupid to understand, the number of armed air marshals has increased by 12,000% (that's twelve thousand percent) since 9/11.

    If 9/11 was really carried out by people with boxcutters, all flights should have an armed guard on them.
    They are much closer to that than they were before 9/11. There have also been many other safety measures adopted to secure the planes and especially the pits. Maybe you should read up on them.

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    From the notes of the 9-11 Commission Report:

    25.An early draft of an executive summary prepared by FAA security staff for the agency's leadership referred to an alleged report of a shooting aboard Flight 11.We believe this report was erroneous for a number of reasons- there is no evidence that the hijackers purchased firearms, use of a gun would be inconsistent with the otherwise common tactics employed by the hijackers, the alleged shooting victim was seated where witness accounts place the stabbing victim (9B), and, most important, neither Betty Ong nor Amy Sweeney, the only two people who communicated to the ground from aboard the aircraft, reported the presence of a gun or a shooting. Both reported knives and stabbings. AAL transcript, telephone call from Betty Ong to Nydia Gonzalez, Sept. 11, 2001;AAL transcript, telephone call from Nydia Gonzalez to Craig Marquis, Sept. 11, 2001; AAL transcript, telephone call from Nancy Wyatt to Ray Howland, Sept. 11, 2001; Michael Woodward interview (Jan. 25, 2004).The General Accounting Office looked into the gun story and was unable to corroborate it. GAO report, summary of briefing re investigation, Aug. 30, 2002.
    http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/r...port_Notes.htm

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    You can buy guns on the black market. Betty Ong and Amy Sweeney did report a gun, that's why it was in the FAA memo.

    This note from the commission doesn't say there wasn't a gun, they just say "we believe" there wasn't a gun, which of course leaves them covered when more evidence of the gun is released.

    The transcript referred to doesn't actually give us a the transcript, or let us hear the complete tape. Nor is there a transcript of Sweeney's call mentioned, only Ong's call.

    The 9/11 Commission never interviewed the people who took Ong's and Sweeney's calls, which is why it is a bogus investigation.

    There were about 80 people on board, so whoever wrote the FAA memo may have had information from other passengers or staff about the gun as well. The 9/11 Commission never interviewed the person who wrote the FAA memo, another proof that the "investigation" is bogus.

    Also, there was a do ented gun on FL93, so why not a gun on FL11 as well?

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    You can buy guns on the black market. Betty Ong and Amy Sweeney did report a gun, that's why it was in the FAA memo.
    You didn't even read the memo correctly.

    Ong NEVER reported a gun.

    This note from the commission doesn't say there wasn't a gun, they just say "we believe" there wasn't a gun, which of course leaves them covered when more evidence of the gun is released.
    What evidence?

    The transcript referred to doesn't actually give us a the transcript, or let us hear the complete tape. Nor is there a transcript of Sweeney's call mentioned, only Ong's call.
    There is no transcript of Sweeney's call because it was not recorded.

    The 9/11 Commission never interviewed the people who took Ong's and Sweeney's calls, which is why it is a bogus investigation.
    Nydia Gonzalez was interviewed by and testified before the 9/11 Commission.

    There were about 80 people on board, so whoever wrote the FAA memo may have had information from other passengers or staff about the gun as well.
    No. The GAO investigated the claim and found nothing.

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    Here's Nydia Gonzalez' statement to the 9/11 Commission:

    http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/h...s_gonzalez.pdf

    Let me know where she talks about a gun.

    You have been exposed as a liar once more.

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    Here's Nydia Gonzalez' statement to the 9/11 Commission:

    http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/h...s_gonzalez.pdf

    Let me know where she talks about a gun.

    You have been exposed as a liar once more.
    She never said there wasn't a gun. That report is way too short to describe a 25-minute phone call.

    Let's cut out the middle-man and listen to the actual phone call.

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    There is no transcript of Sweeney's call because it was not recorded.
    Why wasn't Sweeney's call recorded? When a stewardess makes an emergency call from a flight in distress, they are always recorded.

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    You didn't even read the memo correctly.

    Ong NEVER reported a gun.

    What evidence?

    There is no transcript of Sweeney's call because it was not recorded.

    Nydia Gonzalez was interviewed by and testified before the 9/11 Commission.

    No. The GAO investigated the claim and found nothing.
    The person who wrote the FAA memo was not interviewed by the 9/11 Commission. Hence, a bogus "investigation".

    Also, more than one person was on the phone line, after Ong and Sweeney called in. What happened to the other people who listened?

    It is easy to rig testimony when important witnesses are left out.

    Also, the FAA memeo was written right after 9/11, when memories were still fresh and befor the feds could apply pressure. The 9/11 Commission testimony was taken years later and is not reliable.

    You have been exposed as a liar again for the third time.

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    Why wasn't Sweeney's call recorded? When a stewardess makes an emergency call from a flight in distress, they are always recorded.
    No, they are not. If the recipient doesn't have the means to record the call, it is not recorded. You are too stupid to realize this.

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    The person who wrote the FAA memo was not interviewed by the 9/11 Commission. Hence, a bogus "investigation".

    Also, more than one person was on the phone line, after Ong and Sweeney called in. What happened to the other people who listened?
    The 9/11 Commission is not the only investigation that ever took place.

    It is easy to rig testimony when important witnesses are left out.
    So you are calling Nydia Gonzalez, the American Airlines employee who spoke to Betty Ong right before she died, a liar. You are de able.

    Also, the FAA memeo was written right after 9/11, when memories were still fresh and befor the feds could apply pressure.
    What pressure?

    The 9/11 Commission testimony was taken years later and is not reliable.
    Sure it is.

    You have been exposed as a liar again for the third time.
    I haven't lied once. This thread is filled with your lies.

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