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  1. #76
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    We aren't the Mavs.
    Fixed

  2. #77
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    Premature Ejaculakers thread.

  3. #78
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    On topic: 7-0 is great. We have won from the starting gate and from the stretch. Yes, we will lose games this season.

    Breaking best start by team or league, not important, but gravy.
    Getting back the best regular season record, not important, also gravy.
    Breaking our 33 in a row? Never going to happen.
    Another Kobe MVP? Who cares, we don't.
    Laker goal is get best regular season record to secure HCA throughout playoffs. Which leads to the main goal:
    Winning the le? If we stay healthy, it will happen. And, we want Boston. Unless they choke! This Laker team is more focused on winning the le in 2009 than Boston ever thought they were last season.

    Yeah I'm sure a 66-16 record is completely unfocused. Boston won 66 and won the championship. Lakers won 57 and didn't. Boston was the better team.

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    We aren't the Mavs.
    You're right. The 06-07 Mavs were better.

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    LOL @ this mavs 06-07 talk. who even remembers that team other than mavs fans. lakers are better than that mavs team and you all know it.

    lakers havent won jack shiet yet but every freakin swinging here knows they are for real and are a real threat to any team trying to win the le this year.

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    you still crying about that? Barry TRAVELED before Fisher fouled him. One non-call deserves another:
    gif video proof here:
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97449
    bull , the NBA came out and said it was a ing foul, try again

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    Anyone comparing the Lakers to the '06-07 Mavs is a damn fool.

    The Lakers aren't even a jumpshooting team for christ sakes.

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    Anyone comparing the Lakers to the '06-07 Mavs is a damn fool.

    The Lakers aren't even a jumpshooting team for christ sakes.
    You're right. They are a 3-point shooting team with a soft-ass "interior" power forward, a weak dumb crybaby center, and a ty leader who resorts to fadeaway jumpshots when the going gets tough.

    Oddly enough, thats sounds unusually similar to how many people viewed the Mavericks (shooting team, soft PF, dumb center, ty leader who shoots jumpers when it gets tough)

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    bull , the NBA came out and said it was a ing foul, try again
    And, the NBA dropped the ball by doing that. Had they looked closer, they would have seen the travel. Look at the play, Barry traveled. Then Fisher fouled him. Great intimidation by Fisher to force him into it, hmm?

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    Yeah I'm sure a 66-16 record is completely unfocused. Boston won 66 and won the championship. Lakers won 57 and didn't. Boston was the better team.
    Yeah, Boston was focused last season. Lakers are more so this season. Read my post again.

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    And, the NBA dropped the ball by doing that. Had they looked closer, they would have seen the travel. Look at the play, Barry traveled. Then Fisher fouled him. Great intimidation by Fisher to force him into it, hmm?
    Or maybe fisher's arm made contact with Barry's body before his foot hits the ground

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    Or maybe fisher's arm made contact with Barry's body before his foot hits the ground
    Once the second foot is lifted without a dribble, it's a travel. Look again, that's what happened. It's clearly a foul by Fisher except the travel happened first. Therefore, it's a travel.

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    oh, it was also the fourth straight bad call in the Spurs favor.

    Ginobli hit a 2, not a 3
    Odom cleanly blocked Parker, wasn't a goaltend.
    Fisher's shot hit the rim, and the 24 second clock wasn't reset.
    Non-call on Barry/Fisher was in Spurs favor, because basket would have counted had it gone in.

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    Once the second foot is lifted without a dribble, it's a travel. Look again, that's what happened. It's clearly a foul by Fisher except the travel happened first. Therefore, it's a travel.
    Once his second foot is lifted its a travel? so you're saying every layup is in effect a travel.

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    Once his second foot is lifted its a travel? so you're saying every layup is in effect a travel.
    When you are stationary, that's the rules. Once a foot is lifted, the other becomes a pivot foot. I am sure some layups are travels that are never called.

    I have mentioned this before, I'll mention it again. Look at Duncan's tying 3-pointer against the Suns in last season's first round playoff game. He lifts one foot, then the other and then shoots. It could be argued he traveled, but it was a non-call. Non-calls are part of the game. It's also like when Kobe and Bibby tangled up near the end of game 6 in the 2002 WCF. Bibby grabbed Kobe first, Kobe was groping for position. His elbow swiped Bibby in the mouth. Both were at fault, but the refs just let them play. Kobe's elbow wasn't flagrant. Throwing an elbow in someone's face to clear some floor space after grabbing a rebound probably is flagrant, and could lead to a brawl, or retaliation at least.

    Besides, all those old plays are history. When I made the linked thread, Kori closed it. I wasn't the 9th Laker fan to make such a thread as she noted, she wanted everyone to accept the Spurs loss and move on. Unfortunately, people don't know the full story, that Barry traveled. It's kind of like the people that think Bush was illegally elected in 2000 because the recount was stopped. That recount was ridiculous. What people fail to note, and the press likewise failed to publicize was that Bush was never against a recount in Florida, but it should have been all the votes. The only districts that were recounted were those that were registered heavily Democratic. What kind of fair recount is that? Gee, it isn't, it was just BS by the Gore team to try to get their man elected. A recount means all the votes, and Gore didn't want Republican districts recounted, he might lose votes. It was independently confirmed later, that Bush gained votes in a recount of all districts.

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    Oh, when a player shoots a jump shot, both feet leave the ground at once. That isn't a travel. It's the stationary stance that the pivot foot rule applies to.

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    When you are stationary, that's the rules. Once a foot is lifted, the other becomes a pivot foot. I am sure some layups are travels that are never called.

    I have mentioned this before, I'll mention it again. Look at Duncan's tying 3-pointer against the Suns in last season's first round playoff game. He lifts one foot, then the other and then shoots. It could be argued he traveled, but it was a non-call. Non-calls are part of the game. It's also like when Kobe and Bibby tangled up near the end of game 6 in the 2002 WCF. Bibby grabbed Kobe first, Kobe was groping for position. His elbow swiped Bibby in the mouth. Both were at fault, but the refs just let them play. Kobe's elbow wasn't flagrant. Throwing an elbow in someone's face to clear some floor space after grabbing an rebound probably is flagrant, and could lead to a brawl, or retaliation at least.

    Besides, all those old plays are history. When I made the linked thread, Kori closed it. I wasn't the 9th Laker fan to make such a thread as she noted, she wanted everyone to accept the Spurs loss and move on. Unfortunately, people don't know the full story, that Barry traveled. It's kind of like the people that think Bush was illegally elected in 2000 because the recount was stopped. That recount was ridiculous. What people fail to note, and the press likewise failed to publicize was that Bush was never against a recount in Florida, but it should have been all the votes. The only districts that were recounted were those that were registered heavily Democratic. What kind of fair recount is that? Gee, it isn't, it was just BS by the Gore team to try to get their man elected. A recount means all the votes, and Gore didn't want Republican districts recounted, he might lose votes. It was independently confirmed later, that Bush gained votes in a recount of all districts.

    if you look at the angle from the benches(the one conveniently not shown in your video) he was fouled. The NBA came out and said he was fouled, but according to you they were wrong, the NBA came out and made a declaration about basketball. But only Lakers fans could see that they were wrong. Every media outlet agreed that it was a foul, (that shouldn't be called in that situation) but they were wrong and the Lakers fans were right.

    Ginobli hit a 2, not a 3
    Odom cleanly blocked Parker, wasn't a goaltend.
    Fisher's shot hit the rim, and the 24 second clock wasn't reset.
    Non-call on Barry/Fisher was in Spurs favor, because basket would have counted had it gone in.

    Look at Duncan's tying 3-pointer against the Suns in last season's first round playoff game. He lifts one foot, then the other and then shoots. It could be argued he traveled, but it was a non-call. Non-calls are part of the game. It's also like when Kobe and Bibby tangled up near the end of game 6 in the 2002 WCF. Bibby grabbed Kobe first, Kobe was groping for position. His elbow swiped Bibby in the mouth. Both were at fault, but the refs just let them play. Kobe's elbow wasn't flagrant. Throwing an elbow in someone's face to clear some floor space after grabbing an rebound probably is flagrant, and could lead to a brawl, or retaliation at least.

    And what do all these plays have in common?

    The NBA has not come out and said it should have gone the other way. Just once have they done that, that i recall.

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    if you look at the angle from the benches(the one conveniently not shown in your video) he was fouled. The NBA came out and said he was fouled, but according to you they were wrong, the NBA came out and made a declaration about basketball. But only Lakers fans could see that they were wrong. Every media outlet agreed that it was a foul, (that shouldn't be called in that situation) but they were wrong and the Lakers fans were right.




    And what do all these plays have in common?

    The NBA has not come out and said it should have gone the other way. Just once have they done that, that i recall.
    Well, Charles Barkley came out and said the NBA shouldn't have made the statement. They were in the middle of a lot of controvesry about their officiating at the time with Donahue and no comment would have been better. They probably did it without thinking, believing that making a statement about it would satisfy the fans that they were serious about cleaning up the refereeing controversies once and for all. Admitting a mistake, whether it's right or wrong is not always the best thing to do. Moving on is. Let me ask you this though before you move on, would it have also been fair for the NBA to say that the 3 previous calls that I listed above that went in the Spurs favor should have gone the other way?

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    Well, Charles Barkley came out and said the NBA shouldn't have made the statement. They were in the middle of a lot of controvesry about their officiating at the time with Donahue and no comment would have been better. They probably did it without thinking, believing that making a statement about it would satisfy the fans that they were serious about cleaning up the refereeing controversies once and for all. Admitting a mistake, whether it's right or wrong is not always the best thing to do. Moving on is. Let me ask you this though before you move on, would it have also been fair for the NBA to say that the 3 previous calls that I listed above that went in the Spurs favor should have gone the other way?
    If the NBA felt that way I'm sure a statement would have been issued

    Also if we are going to quote Charles Barkley, how about we say how he said it was a foul, that you dont' call, but it was still a foul.

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    Are you guys still bickering over that. This is our undefeated thread. Its time to celebrate!!!
    Yeah, I know. I find it sad that the truth isn't known. That's because people only read what they want and I am one of the only ones showing Barry traveled.

    Barry traveled.
    NBA ed up with their statement. If you are going to list one "bad-call", list them all. That includes the 3 listed above that allowed the controversy in the first place.

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    Yeah, I know. I find it sad that the truth isn't known. That's because people only read what they want and I am one of the only ones showing Barry traveled.

    Barry traveled.
    NBA ed up with their statement. If you are going to list one "bad-call", list them all. That includes the 3 listed above that allowed the controversy in the first place.

    I'm not listing bad call I'm listing the calls the NBA has publicly disagreed with

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    I'm not listing bad call I'm listing the calls the NBA has publicly disagreed with
    Yeah, and I pointed out why the NBA made that statement. It probably also was to show they aren't biased towards the Lakers which many fans insist they are.

    Let's recap this and move on:

    Non-call. Basket counts if it goes.
    Travel called: turnover and Lakers win.
    Foul called: 3 freethrows to Barry. He'll probably make all of them, but the pressure is on. Lakers have at least 0.4 left to try to break your hearts again. If Spurs win, it's a best of 3. I still like LA's chances.

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    Yeah, and I pointed out why the NBA made that statement. It probably also was to show they aren't biased towards the Lakers which many fans insist they are.
    And what proof do you have of this?

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    And what proof do you have of this?
    I see it all over this forum for one:

    Stern wants a Celtic/Laker final, therefore it will and did happen.
    NBA allowed the trade of nothing for Gasol.
    Sacramento was ripped off in game 6 of the 2002 WCF by the officials.
    It's a perception that's shared by many.

    I'll believe in conspiracies when more people other than Donuhue 'fess up.

  25. #100
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    You better pray Manu and Parker are back before the Lakeshow experience comes their Spurs way. Were going to beat the Spurs by 50. If they are healthy, then we will win by only 20.
    Your sig, man. I think I'm seeing a wrongly spelled word or something.

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