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you didn't mention the Hornets on THAT post
And the excuse against the Hornets?
Against Chandler and D-West he was good... but remember some of the meltdowns he had against them on that series too...
And the excuse against the Hornets?
you didn't mention the Hornets on THAT post
And the excuse against the Hornets?
Against Chandler and D-West he was good... but remember some of the meltdowns he had against them on that series too...
Lack of focus
Yeah, when he was sick.you didn't mention the Hornets on THAT post
Against Chandler and D-West he was good... but remember some of the meltdowns he had against them on that series too...
Are you on the "Duncan can't rebound anymore" bandwagon or are you trying to prove some different point?
No i am not in that bandwagon at all. I was trying to bring a different aspect to the topic.
Duncan has consistently been the best big man of this league since he joined it... that ain't changing anytime soon... that includes the rebounding category
His Playoffs numbers rebounding wise were impressive, but as you know numbers not always tell the story of the whole thing... from there my comments...
Obviously numbers don't tell the whole story but trying to twist 17.4 rebounds per game into proof that Duncan's rebounding has been a problem ...... is a stretch.
I think you are being too hard on George Hill he might not haved been great but he was goooood. Pop screwed teh pooch by benching him and lost us the game Hillwould have got those rebounds.
Good thoughts. One thing, though: A reason Mbah A Moute looked good at times is because Tolliver just left him alone too much. Tolliver has won me over with his contributions, but hopefully that part of his defense gets shored up.
It's a good point you're right : he's still playing the system but I think that he must feel the burden of the responsability of maintaining the spurs alive especially on the offense...
well I don't know. As he is the only all star in this team today may be we are focusing too much on him.
Moute made two long 2 pointers in a row, from the same spot, on consecutive possessions IIRC... nobody around him either time. I expected to see Pop jumping up and down and yelling on the sidelines, but he wasn'tOne thing, though: A reason Mbah A Moute looked good at times is because Tolliver just left him alone too much.
Yeah, Tolliver left him both times, plus he got beat down the floor a couple of times too during that same run. Again, not the end of the world for a young player that's doing some other good things, but still something he's hopefully being made aware of since it could have been the difference in the game.
I'm almost positive the reason things played out that way is because it was in the Spurs' gameplan to give Mbah a Moute the outside jumper. In college, the guy was a horrrrrrrible shooter. Even in the NBA, he hadn't be too great from the outside.
I'm pretty sure Tolliver was leaving him open due to what the scouting report said. Even when Mbah a Moute caught the ball, the Spurs weren't rotating to cover him.
Either the Spurs scouts had it wrong or Mbah a Moute had the shooting game of his life. I really don't think it was a Tolliver mistake.
God forbid Bonner having made the same mistakes. I've never seen him leave someone like Tolliver did on two consecutive possessions, same spot, same guy, everything. Tolliver deserves the doghouse for this and I hope he gets it.
Bonner probably would have closed out on the shooter against Pop's orders and then gotten benched.
So you're saying after he just swished a wide open jumper, to not close out on him the second time?
C'mon.
If the scouting report was to let him shoot, Tolliver did the right thing. Considering no help defender tried to rotate and Pop didn't get mad, I'm assuming that's what happened.
The problem I have is yours/Pop's at ude - like its not a big deal. Had Bonner done the same thing, he would never get playing time again (if he were in tolliver's shoes I mean - as it is he may never see the court again anyway).
Seriously ridiculous.
I doubt the scouting report said refuse to guard him. Also, no matter what Pop said, the guy just swished one the previous possession - you gotta at least get a hand up this time. Again, I find it hard to believe Bonner would have been let go giving the other team 4 points, which was part of that big run.
You do realize we lost by 4 points?
I saw Mbah a Moute play many times at UCLA. Dude never made a shot beyond 8 feet. I was shocked when he made the first one, and beyond shocked when he made the second. He was always left open in college and never made any shots. The defense was by design for sure.
I'll have to disagree. If Bonner followed the scouting report, Pop wouldn't have had a problem.
Even though Mbah a Moute is about a 20% shooter from that range in his college and NBA career?
That's true about Mbah a Moute. In fact, that was the book on him coming out of the draft. I had the benefit of getting the Bucks telecast and broadcast team. They indicated that Mbah a Moute had been working with a shooting coach to improve his jumper. Appears to be paying some early dividends.
I'm not doubting yours or Pop's knowledge. I'm just confused as to why the second shot wasn't guarded, minimum, and why he is not being put at fault. Surely Tolliver was planning on boxing him out, right? How do you box some one out 15 feet away? Had the scouting report been right and he missed, you're getting a long rebound. Tolliver was underneath the basket.
I wonder if the scouting report told Tolliver to let Moute beat him down the floor for layups.
I'm guessing not. Especially considering Mbah a Moute scored his 11 points on three jumpers and five free throws.
you just look at the numbers!! if you saw the games you could see that Duncan was give up rebounds that he should not, if you remember - one game in this series we lost for one reason - that the lakers were killing us on the offensive rebound and Duncan had big part in that!Duncan averaged 17.4 rebounds per game last year against the Lakers. He never had a single game with less than 15 rebounds. Saying Duncan has a rebounding problem and pointing to the Lakers series is like saying Parker has a scoring problem and pointing to the Minnesota game
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