I just thought the nickname "the machine" sounded a lot cooler on an actual girl.
You need an official le around here. "Newsbabe" isn't too demeaning, is it?![]()
Can I be a Duncan-bot?
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I just thought the nickname "the machine" sounded a lot cooler on an actual girl.
You need an official le around here. "Newsbabe" isn't too demeaning, is it?![]()
Sexism alert, sexism alert!!!!! Run for your lives!!!!!!!
I'll give the mother er some props if he can AVERAGE that ...one night after many a ty one does not appreciation manifest.
Will they still call me 'dude' if 'babe' is in my name?![]()
Two birds, one stone. I'd imagine you could still keep your spur.
And I bet you were one of the people that loved having Robert Horry around.
Matt ing Bonner:
27mins
4-9 shooting (3-5 three pointers) for 11 points
7 rebounds
1 assist
2 steals
Additionally, had a +/- of +5
GO SPURS GO
Matt Bonner was great again..this time, with his all-around game..solid defensively, solid on the boards and made a few good passes..he also drove to the basket twice aggressively and made one(the other one was missed partly due to bad spacing)..
Second straight damn good game.
This is what the Spurs were hoping when they gave him his contract. His numbers are nice but more importantly his defense is vastly improved and he's not making dumb plays constantly like usual.
Not sure what he ate in his latest trip to the doghouse but it must have been some good ish.
he wants to go down fighting
he does not want to lose his playing time to a rookie
Whatever the reasoning, let's just hope he keeps playing like this. This version of Bonner makes the Spurs much tougher to defend because he's a legitimate triple threat when he catches the ball right now.
I think Pop's frustration with him on the defensive end is finally near an end - which can only mean good things for the Spurs. They've been desperately needing another big man to step up and Bonner did so in a big way, especially the rebounding department.
A lot of people on this site would love nothing more than to eat crow if it means Bonner's playing well and contributing to wins. Bonner's got to keep it up, though.
It's also surprising how much patience pop has with guys that are scoring. See Finley, Michael and Mason, Roger.
I wonder if Timvp has some reason why Tolliver pulled another Mbah a Moute ... while he was switched off on Beno
Still believe it was only the scouting report behind Tolliver not getting out on perimeter guys oncesoever?
That was a double-team on the block. Bad play but he obviously expected help.
You do know it is possible to root for a player without tearing down another play on his same team, right? You tearing down Tolliver to prop Bonner is the poor man's version of the CoM's who tears down Parker to prop Ginobili.
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I didn't get to see the game tonight, but the stat line looked nice. Bonner will be huge for us if he can continue hitting his threes at a solid rate... I see no reason why he can't keep it up as long as he keeps his confidence up.
First and foremost, I've been very positive about Tolliver; a simple search will find you as much. I even said he looked like he was a better fit than Bonner since Pop was giving him PT.That was a double-team on the block. Bad play but he obviously expected help.
You do know it is possible to root for a player without tearing down another play on his same team, right? You tearing down Tolliver to prop Bonner is the poor man's version of the CoM's who tears down Parker to prop Ginobili.
Second, its apples and oranges to compare my comments on Tolliver to a Manu v. Parker. Parker and Manu play two different positions with two different styles of games. The idiots who compare them (or compare any two players on a championship-winning squad with great chemistry) deserve such words. Which leads to my next point ...
Third, Bonner and Tolliver have similar skillsets and play the same position, while both come off the bench. So in order for Bonner to get big minutes, he must outplay Tolliver, especially on the defensive end, where Pop is going to have a microscope on him. It has nothing to do with breaking a player down - its a compe ion for minutes. Surely this isn't a new concept to you.
I called out obvious errors on Tolliver's part. How can you justify them? And how do I deserve a thumbs down, when everyone on the board besides me has been calling for Bonner's head?![]()
It was not a personal attack against you Timvp. I just think Tolliver got off too easy when it was a big run he helped ignite on Wednesday night, and could have been a reason the King's fought off our run in the fourth by giving Beno such a wide open look.
Last edited by z0sa; 11-17-2008 at 12:43 AM.
Agreed with TIMVP. This was the Matt Bonner I witnessed those years in Toronto.
If he keeps this up, this team gets to championship level after teh other big 2 and Mahinmi get back.
props for another good game by bonner keep it up red rocket!
Look at the thread you started after the Rockets game.
That's hilarious. You classify Tolliver barely playing and getting a steal for a dunk as "sh!tty play" and now try to paint yourself as an unbiased observer. You've torn down Tolliver to praise Bonner, if you've realized it or not.
And regarding those two Mbah a Moute plays you continually reference, go back and watch the tape. On the second open jumper, it was actually Kurt Thomas who didn't go out on him. So either both Tolliver and Thomas both made the exact same mistake or the Spurs *gasp* had it in their scouting report to not defend a player who is a 20% outside shooter.
Your whole reasoning for tearing down Tolliver is built on a false premise. Tolliver and Bonner aren't competing. The compe ion is between Oberto, Tolliver, Bonner and Thomas. Just look at tonight's game as an example. Bonner got Thomas' minutes. There's plenty of room for both Bonner and Tolliver to get minutes if both are playing well. It's not an either or situation.
Originally psoted by AC#21_TD ERA
If Matt Bonner get's out of the stinking dog house and gets consistent minutes then he'll be a success. Obviously if your not getting minutes how are you supposed to peform? Look what Bonner did when he filled in for Duncan.![]()
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