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    The new presidential line of succession

    1. Joe Biden (3 letters in the word "jobs")


    2. Nancy Pelosi


    3. Robert Byrd (exalted cyclops)


    4. *Hillary Clinton ("so you're sayin' there's a chance")



    * A glimmer of hope.

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    Wait a minute, Obama's building "a broad coalition administration" by choosing Hillary? I seem to remember Hillary being a Democrat and campaigning hard for Obama.

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    Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.

    Obama is no dummy.

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    Awesome move

    Let's see, for the foreseeable future we're going to be dealing with the Middle East. What do Muslims hate? Women and blacks.

    Hillary as SoS? Brilliant Almost as bad as Bush selecting Condi and then sending her over there to try and settle the Israel situation.

    Stupid pick.
    By this logic, she will be an improvement on Rice.

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    Republicans praise idea of Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State
    Republicans praised the prospect of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Sunday.

    Former Nixon and Ford Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said Sunday that Clinton would be an “outstanding” selection.

    “She is a lady of great intelligence, demonstrated enormous determination and would be an outstanding appointment," Kissinger told the World Economic Forum's India Economic Summit in New Delhi, according to Bloomberg News.

    Clinton is reportedly President-elect Barack Obama’s top pick for the post.

    “If it is true, it will show a couple of things," Kissinger said. “It shows great courage on the part of the president-elect to appoint a very strong personality, who has an independent cons uency, into a cabinet position. It also shows willingness on the part of Clinton to subordinate herself to someone whom she lost out to."

    On CNN’s Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer, Tennessee Rep. Marsha Blackburn said Clinton would be a good fit for the position. “I think that Hillary Clinton will probably accept that, from what I am hearing. I think it would be a nice gesture. I think that she is well qualified,” said the Republican congresswoman.

    “She does have a certain standing in the world that is required in order to be able to demand the respect from other countries to deal with issues that are going to be affecting not only us but other of our allies, our trading partners. And I think that she would be a well placed in that position.”

    Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona also said Clinton would be a good choice for the post. “It seems to me she's got the experience, she's got the temperament for it," he said on Fox News Sunday. “She would be well-received around the world."

    Also on Sunday, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger praised the potential choice as a "great move."

    "I think she is a very very bright woman and very experienced. I think this could be a great move," Schwarzenegger told ABC's George Stephanopoulos.
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...tary-of-state/

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    How about the fact that he needs somebody who is capable of handling the job on her own, giving him more time to concentrate on the domestic issues which he always said were his priority. I can see Hillary as being such a person.

    I also remember the first Clinton administration being sidetracked and often frustrated by the amount of time and attention that Russia commended (remember Yeltsin?), time that was supposed to be spent on domestic matters.

    Just my 2 cents...

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    she'll do fine. the resident repubs are used to having a puppet. give them time to absorb the concept.

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    Wait a minute, Obama's building "a broad coalition administration" by choosing Hillary? I seem to remember Hillary being a Democrat and campaigning hard for Obama.
    Seriously? You're better than this post.

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    Wait a minute, Obama's building "a broad coalition administration" by choosing Hillary?
    Well, she is a broad.

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    Awesome move

    Let's see, for the foreseeable future we're going to be dealing with the Middle East. What do Muslims hate? Women and blacks.

    Hillary as SoS? Brilliant Almost as bad as Bush selecting Condi and then sending her over there to try and settle the Israel situation.

    Stupid pick.
    So, using your argument, the United States of America should only have white males as SoS for the foreseeable future in an attempt to appease leaders in the Middle east?

    Would you have raised the same objection about Margaret Thatcher?
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    Yeah, and I don't believe I've ever disclosed my reading list before. DailyKos and DemocraticUnderground are terrible sites, but I bet AHF loves him some Free Republic.
    I like DailyKos because there's a myriad of opinions. DKos was as torn on the bailout as anyone else, and Hunter and DarkSyde have great posts. Sure, it's partisan, but it's fun. And I don't seem to read half as much vitriol or racism there. (Healthy levels of paranoia exist, but if you've seen the Democrats operate in the last decade, you'd probably be paranoid too.)

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Dkos isn't bad. You just gotta take it with a grain of salt and understand the source of the material. Its the same thing with certain "right wing" sites. I think as long as you are able to understand the entire context of what you are reading then its a good thing to read a lot of different perspectives if for nothing to else to understand how people formed their opinions.

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    Its funny because some conservatives on this board have their mind made up on how they are going to feel about a pick but have to wait to see the pick to find the "reason" why. Hilary is SoS? Oh well then its a horrible pick because countries in the middle east hate blacks and women.
    I'm disappointed in you Manny, you used to be capable of independent thought. Now you're just back to attacking the poster instead of the post (because you know I'm right).

    She's better than Kerry would have been, but that's a pretty low bar to clear.

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    So, using your argument, the United States of America should only have white males as SoS for the foreseeable future in an attempt to appease leaders in the Middle east?

    Would you have raised the same objection about Margaret Thatcher?
    It's not about appeasement. It's about the fact that we're going to be dealing with that part of the world for the foreseeable future, and they already dislike us. But sending a woman or a black over there to tell them to be peaceful, etc. is even worse.

    Sending Condi over there was ing stupid, and this is just as bad (only slightly less so because of skin color). As to Thatcher, she was a great leader in her time, but in today's culture and the reality of our problems with the Middle East then yeah, I'd have a problem with her in that role as well.

    I wouldn't mind the pick if it was a domestic position, but choosing Hillary for a position that will be getting a lot of face time with Middle East leaders is just ignorant and stupid.

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    we should all pitch in and help aggie build a platform.

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    GGA and peewee must be going around with a boner . . .

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    It's not about appeasement. It's about the fact that we're going to be dealing with that part of the world for the foreseeable future, and they already dislike us. But sending a woman or a black over there to tell them to be peaceful, etc. is even worse.

    Sending Condi over there was ing stupid, and this is just as bad (only slightly less so because of skin color). As to Thatcher, she was a great leader in her time, but in today's culture and the reality of our problems with the Middle East then yeah, I'd have a problem with her in that role as well.

    I wouldn't mind the pick if it was a domestic position, but choosing Hillary for a position that will be getting a lot of face time with Middle East leaders is just ignorant and stupid.
    I don't agree with you, but I do get where you're coming from. Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree...

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    I'm disappointed in you Manny, you used to be capable of independent thought. Now you're just back to attacking the poster instead of the post (because you know I'm right).

    She's better than Kerry would have been, but that's a pretty low bar to clear.
    I know you're right? No, I actually don't know that you're right. I know that you're going to oppose almost everything Obama does because you don't like him. Your mind is made up on that. The only thing thats going to be decided on is what supposed grounds you're going to oppose what he does.

    Take this selection. You're opposing it based on Obama being black (and as far as I know no selection was going to change that) and Clinton being a woman. For some reason, you're advocating appeasement of some shallow dislikes that Middle Eastern heads of state may or may not have. Its a foolish stance to take at any point, but I understand because its just a knee jerk reaction to the selection.

    Bill Clinton is in Kuwait this weekend. The Clintons are both actually very well respected overseas so thats a definete plus for this selection. To sit there and make some stupid assesment based upon her being a woman somehow making her unqualified for the job is ing ridiculous and for you to utter that and then turn around and claim I am somehow the one who isn't thinking is even more ridiculous. Please don't insult my thought process simply because I didn't agree with your sexist view on who should be the Secretary of State. I above said this pick could go either way and only time would tell, but somehow because I actually analyzed the selection and didn't jump on the OMG SHE'S A WOMAN AND THEY LIKE VIELS short bus with you I'm now incapable of independent thought? If I remember correctly, the last time you threw that bull at me I kinda blew your ass out of the water regarding congress and their supposed attacks on 401ks, correct?

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    Appointing positions based on political strategy rather than who is best for job, aka best for THE COUNTRY.

    That's change alright.


    Post yo Puppet now Chumpsta.

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    Bill Clinton is in Kuwait this weekend. The Clintons are both actually very well respected overseas so thats a definete plus for this selection.
    This is one angle that I think definitely is of extreme importance, and one that was overlooked and even looked down on in the Bush Administration. Hillary doesn't have the high negative ratings outside of the USA that she has inside of it, and just as many countries-- enemies and allies-- cheered when Obama was elected, I think many would do the same regarding a Clinton appointment.
    I think most people both here and abroad agree that diplomacy was never one of Bush's strong points...

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    "Bill Clinton is in Kuwait this weekend"

    Probably putting together some kind of corrupt deal, like selling access to his wife in exchange donations to his library, etc, etc.

    Repugs are gonna destroy Hillary and Bill all over again. Obama is baiting the Repugs by choosing Hillary.

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    "Bill Clinton is in Kuwait this weekend"

    Probably putting together some kind of corrupt deal, like selling access to his wife in exchange donations to his library, etc, etc.

    Repugs are gonna destroy Hillary and Bill all over again. Obama is baiting the Repugs by choosing Hillary.
    Does anything good ever happen in your universe?

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    My universe is fine, thanks for asking.

    Political universe sucks, not that you've figured that out from your naive universe.

    Obama's making a huge mistake with Hillary.

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    It's not that I think Hillary isn't qualified for the position because she is, I just don't like the Clintons.

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    not that you've figured that out from your naive universe.
    I guess I'm just not the pragmatist that you are.. You never answered my question from last week-- did you vote for Nader in 2000?

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