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    That about Cleveland fans booing LeBron last night because he dribbled the clock out instead of getting them a free taco probably cemented him not coming back in 2010.

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    That about Cleveland fans booing LeBron last night because he dribbled the clock out instead of getting them a free taco probably cemented him not coming back in 2010.
    are you serious about that??????????????

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    He has an expiring contract. Anybody who wants to create cap space would probably take him for at least that. And he's been real professional about his desire to get minutes elsewhere if there's not a substantial on-court role for him here. He isn't creating drama.
    Matt Bonner has an expiring contract, a better at ude and better shot and is playing better, so the Spurs will get a deal done before the Mavs.

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    Matt Bonner has an expiring contract, a better at ude and better shot and is playing better, so the Spurs will get a deal done before the Mavs.
    I don't care what Matt Bonner and the Spurs do. Start a thread for that if you want to discuss it. We were talking about Stackhouse.

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    The Mavs franchise is clearly coming apart. Too bad.

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    Lebron will NEVER make it as a Spur!

    "Anyway, LeBron said 'I can't believe people who buy season tickets get worked up over a g-- d--- $1 (blank) taco.' "

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    I don't care what Matt Bonner and the Spurs do. Start a thread for that if you want to discuss it. We were talking about Stackhouse.
    I did start the thread genius and I will discuss what i want

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    I did start the thread genius and I will discuss what i want
    Well, go talk to the wall about Bonner. Nobody cares.

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    Well, go talk to the wall about Bonner. Nobody cares.
    Evidently you do because you responded to my posting about him. It directly corresponded to the scenario you gave about Stackhouse and your logic about why teams would want him. But when I use a simile with Bonner you act like it has nothing to do with the situation, I do not get it.

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    Evidently you do because you responded to my posting about him. It directly corresponded to the scenario you gave about Stackhouse and your logic about why teams would want him. But when I use a simile with Bonner you act like it has nothing to do with the situation, I do not get it.
    Bass is a promising young player, and Stack is an expiring contract. Bonner has an expiring contract and is just as sucky as Stackhouse, if not more so, and the Spurs have no young talent to offer Charlotte. So, unless you had something else in mind, I don't see how your Bonner "scenario" qualifies at all.

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    Damn dude, I'd figure you'd stop being such a dumb after the Manu doesn't believe in god thread, but I guess not.

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    Damn dude, I'd figure you'd stop being such a dumb after the Manu doesn't believe in god thread, but I guess not.
    that makes tons of sense. just because there is a "mob mentality" here does not mean anything. and because I say so much "dumb" . if all you can do is reference one thread and can give no other examples, take that weak else where. especially when towards the end of the thread everyone who was talking said they understood where i was coming from...

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    Bass is a promising young player, and Stack is an expiring contract. Bonner has an expiring contract and is just as sucky as Stackhouse, if not more so, and the Spurs have no young talent to offer Charlotte. So, unless you had something else in mind, I don't see how your Bonner "scenario" qualifies at all.
    I was not implying that the Spurs had more to offer, I was showing the fault of your logic saying Stack has an expiring. I already told you we all know what the Cats are looking for: a legit bigman. That is what their team needs and that is what they want. Which is why the tried to trade for Kaman earlier.

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    I was not implying that the Spurs had more to offer, I was showing the fault of your logic saying Stack has an expiring. I already told you we all know what the Cats are looking for: a legit bigman. That is what their team needs and that is what they want. Which is why the tried to trade for Kaman earlier.
    They want to dump salary first and foremost. They owe Gerald Wallace something like $40 million over 4 years. Stackhouse has a total of $9 million left on his deal. Stack saves them $31 million and they get a promising young talent in Bass who makes almost nothing. It has nothing to do with getting better in the short term. Kaman probably has more coming to him in $$ than Wallace.

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    Bass is a promising young player, and Stack is an expiring contract. Bonner has an expiring contract and is just as sucky as Stackhouse, if not more so, and the Spurs have no young talent to offer Charlotte. So, unless you had something else in mind, I don't see how your Bonner "scenario" qualifies at all.
    Ian Mahinmi is not more promising than Bass?

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    They want to dump salary first and foremost. They owe Gerald Wallace something like $40 million over 4 years. Stackhouse has a total of $9 million left on his deal. Stack saves them $31 million and they get a promising young talent in Bass who makes almost nothing. It has nothing to do with getting better in the short term. Kaman probably has more coming to him in $$ than Wallace.
    Then why did they make the trade offer for Kaman?

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    Ian Mahinmi is not more promising than Bass?
    I'd be shocked if the Spurs gave up on him after everything they've invested in him, considering the lack of young talent on the roster. And Bass has had way more minutes in the NBA and is a much more polished product than Mahinmi. How much trade value does Mahinmi really have when he's hardly set foot on the floor? He's worth more to the Spurs as a project than as a trading chip, because he hasn't done anything yet. Bass has produced for his team.

    Here's Ian Mahinmi's stats for the year:

    0.0 points, 0.0 rebounds, 0.0 assists in 0 minutes per game.

    Here's Brandon Bass for the year:

    6.5 points, 2.9 rebounds, 0.3 assists in 17 minutes per game.


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    Then why did they make the trade offer for Kaman?
    You're going to have to do better than messageboard speculation. I don't know if the Mavs and Bobcats are going to get a deal done...but it's safe to say the Bobcats are interested in dumping salary. Don't see how Kaman for Wallace solves that problem for them.

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    I'd be shocked if the Spurs gave up on him after everything they've invested in him, considering the lack of young talent on the roster. And Bass has had way more minutes in the NBA and is a much more polished product than Mahinmi. How much trade value does Mahinmi really have when he's hardly set foot on the floor? He's worth more to the Spurs as a project than as a trading chip, because he hasn't done anything yet. Bass has produced for his team.

    Here's Ian Mahinmi's stats for the year:

    0.0 points per game, 0.0 rebounds per game, 0.0 assists per game in 0 minutes.

    Here's Brandon Bass for the year:

    6.5 points per game, 2.9 rebounds per game, 0.3 assists per game in 17 minutes per game.

    So by your logic, people should trade all their draft picks for anyone who has played games in the NBA? Because all draft picks 1-60 have 0 points per game, 0 rebounds per game, 0 assists per game in 0 minutes.

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    You're going to have to do better than messageboard speculation. I don't know if the Mavs and Bobcats are going to get a deal done...but it's safe to say the Bobcats are interested in dumping salary. Don't see how Kaman for Wallace solves that problem for them.
    http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,0,32203.story

    Dunleavy said he turned down the Charlotte Bobcats when they approached the Clippers and expressed interest in Kaman.

    "They got the rejection," Dunleavy said. "But they threw it out there that I almost had a dance with somebody."


    Looks like a little more than "speculation". So maybe your theory about salary dumping is wrong.

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    So by your logic, people should trade all their draft picks for anyone who has played games in the NBA? Because all draft picks 1-60 have 0 points per game, 0 rebounds per game, 0 assists per game in 0 minutes.
    No, by my logic, Brandon Bass is a guy who has earned playing time in the NBA, while Ian Mahinmi couldn't get the call up from Austin when his parent club has had an aging roster for quite a well. Bass was in the NBA last year, Mahinmi was in Austin. Bass is in the NBA this year, Mahinmi is on the shelf. Maybe one day Mahinmi will be a better player than Bass, but up to this point, Bass has way more trade value than Mahinmi.

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    Bass is a promising young player, and Stack is an expiring contract. Bonner has an expiring contract and is just as sucky as Stackhouse, if not more so, and the Spurs have no young talent to offer Charlotte. So, unless you had something else in mind, I don't see how your Bonner "scenario" qualifies at all.
    I'd be shocked if the Spurs gave up on him after everything they've invested in him, considering the lack of young talent on the roster. And Bass has had way more minutes in the NBA and is a much more polished product than Mahinmi. How much trade value does Mahinmi really have when he's hardly set foot on the floor? He's worth more to the Spurs as a project than as a trading chip, because he hasn't done anything yet. Bass has produced for his team.

    Here's Ian Mahinmi's stats for the year:

    0.0 points, 0.0 rebounds, 0.0 assists in 0 minutes per game.

    Here's Brandon Bass for the year:

    6.5 points, 2.9 rebounds, 0.3 assists in 17 minutes per game.

    You said the Spurs had no young talent to offer, I proved you wrong there as well. You are just speculating Ian's value, but that is impossible to know. We do know what you said was wrong though.
    Last edited by DPG21920; 11-19-2008 at 12:23 AM.

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    You said the Spurs had no young talent to offer, I proved you their wrong as well
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    Mahinmi has no trade value. He's a project that has done NOTHING in the NBA. Anthony Morrow probably has more trade value than Ian Mahinmi, he's actually had a good game in the NBA. They wouldn't get much for Mahinmi, they're better off continuing to develop him and THEN if he pans out, they either have a good player or a trading chip.

    We do know what you said was wrong though.
    No, what I'm saying is going over your head.

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