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    Dramatically increase our energy supply and reduce the COST of healthcare.

    everything else will fall in to place.

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    Why not include increased energy conservation also?

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    I like the economic strategy of the guy on SNL: "Just fix it!"
    http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Li...fix-it/784121/

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    What are your solutions to those problems? Is ANWR+offshore drilling anything more than band-aids to our oil-addiction?

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    What are your solutions to those problems? Is ANWR+offshore drilling anything more than band-aids to our oil-addiction?
    american oil would sell that to anybody, gladly.

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    Why not include increased energy conservation also?
    Freedom.

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    "reduce the COST of healthcare."

    damn near impossible.

    "free market" for-profit health care, and Big Pharma, has figured out how to gouge the people, and nothing going to stop them from gouging more and more.

    health insurance companies support universal mandated coverage where they accept even the currently uninsurable, because it will punitively drive people into their bloody talons.

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    What are your solutions to those problems? Is ANWR+offshore drilling anything more than band-aids to our oil-addiction?
    invest in alternatives, but for now natural gas, wind, and domestic crude are the short-term solutions.

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    "reduce the COST of healthcare."

    damn near impossible.

    "free market" for-profit health care, and Big Pharma, has figured out how to gouge the people, and nothing going to stop them from gouging more and more.

    health insurance companies support universal mandated coverage where they accept even the currently uninsurable, because it will punitively drive people into their bloody talons.
    , , . solutions please.

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    you keep saying "domestic crude" as if they wouldn't sell it to anybody.

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    natural gas "fracking", as well as requiring millions of gallons of poisoned water per well, is also polluting ground water/aquiferes with secret mixtures of very probably pathogenic chemicals.

    fracking is simply not a sustainable way to extract NG, and should be outlawed.

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    It's your thread, you go first with your solution to reducing COST of health care.

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    Nearly 50 Percent of U.S. Physicians Plan to Quit; 60 Percent Warn Others Away from Career in Medicine

    http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...4AH1CE20081118

    Primary care physicians are already in critically short supply in many regions.

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    It's your thread, you go first with your solution to reducing COST of health care.
    One payor system with an annual health care credit to each person payable for regulated basic coverage. Extra coverage is not deductible.

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    Why not include increased energy conservation also?
    You're right. No one drive anywhere. No one buy anything that takes energy to obtain.

    Market will rebound in no time.

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    I go with single-payer.

    Fold Medicaid and Medicare into one program that covers everybody.

    EVERYBODY pays mandatory payroll dedections and everybody get covered.

    Will need a national computer system for Health ID cards.

    If you want additional private insurance and for-profit care, you buy that on your own account with no tax credits.

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    You're right. No one drive anywhere. No one buy anything that takes energy to obtain.

    Market will rebound in no time.
    Wow! THAT is what you get from the words energy conservation? How about move the thermostat 2 degrees, or turn off the lights, or go ahead and drive, but plan your trips to do more than one errand in one trip, that way the money that you save by doing the above can be spent on other things such as *gasp* products that would fuel the economy (no, can it be? a solution to help our energy independence that directly effects the stabilization of our economy?)

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    Wow! THAT is what you get from the words energy conservation? How about move the thermostat 2 degrees, or turn off the lights, or go ahead and drive, but plan your trips to do more than one errand in one trip, that way the money that you save by doing the above can be spent on other things such as *gasp* products that would fuel the economy (no, can it be? a solution to help our energy independence that directly effects the stabilization of our economy?)
    Be sure to check your tire pressure, too.

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    Be sure to check your tire pressure, too.
    Damn straight!

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    If it's yellow, let it mellow . . . if it's brown, flush it down!

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    I go with single-payer.

    Fold Medicaid and Medicare into one program that covers everybody.

    EVERYBODY pays mandatory payroll dedections and everybody get covered.

    Will need a national computer system for Health ID cards.

    If you want additional private insurance and for-profit care, you buy that on your own account with no tax credits.
    I would still keep the providers private, but mandate a basic care policy at a price no greater than TBD.

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    You're right. No one drive anywhere. No one buy anything that takes energy to obtain.

    Market will rebound in no time.
    Nice retort.

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    Do you think it's a coincidence that the words conservative and conservation look and sound an awful lot alike? So you don't want to conserve energy as a small, simple part of lowering dependence on foreign energy sources because you think that it will mean losing your freedom? Is your conception of freedom really that superficial? Will wearing a sweater in a government building that has lowered its thermostats by 2 degrees really perpetrate what you consider a horrible infringement on your freedom?

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    Do you think it's a coincidence that the words conservative and conservation look and sound an awful lot alike? So you don't want to conserve energy as a small, simple part of lowering dependence on foreign energy sources because you think that it will mean losing your freedom? Is your conception of freedom really that superficial? Will wearing a sweater in a government building that has lowered its thermostats by 2 degrees really perpetrate what you consider a horrible infringement on your freedom?
    are you really this much of a pompous prick?

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    Speaking of pompous pricks, I feel obligated to point out that neither of these things are strategies - they are objectives.

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