I'll go along with Nazr, but Eric Williams wasn't exactly contributing.You are correct, though.
Nellie might actually like him; he's a good shooter, he can play some defense and he's a pretty damn good ball handler for a guy his size. I wouldn't trade Matt Bonner for Harrington, though. No freaking way.Come on, we all know Nellie would love the Red Rocket!!!But seriously, that stood out for me too.
I think he's one of the players nobody wants. (Neither the other drafting NBA teams in '05, nor the French national team has ever shown Mahinmi the respect the Spurs did in that one First Round Moment.)
It's been three years -- Bynum and Batum have stepped up younger and more ready.
Meanwhile, the Spurs seem more afraid of putting Mahinmi on the big stage than McCain was of putting Palin in front of Dan Rather.
Hope I'm wrong of course.
...plus some DVD runs before game time for Hill & Mason?Duncan has played the role of veteran guide. He’s directed Hill and Mason on the floor and in huddles, and has had to learn to live with their mistakes. On the opening possession of a recent game against the Los Angeles Clippers, Duncan motioned Hill toward Michael Finley. Instead, Hill fired the ball back at Duncan, nearly clipping him in the chin.
Duncan and Popovich will try to prop up the Spurs, one directing from the sideline, the other from the court.
and TD logging-in 40 minutes since then?
wow that's a lot of load on Duncan's shoulders than I imagined.
I think JV gave some of his off-game minutes on Hill too.
like the Spurs used Ely
thought Nazr was acquired during the off-season?
What do you think Bonner and Tolliver are out there to do? Spread the floor. Shoot threes. Al Harrington fits into the Robert Horry/Matt Bonner mold - hes 6'9" and hes long and can shoot the 3 ball. His contract also expires at the end of the year, so its not like their locked into anything for the future if he doesnt pan out.
And so because he has had back issues, it doesnt matter that hes actually just entering his prime now, and that hes young and athletic.
Hes played 81, 78 and 76 games the last three seasons, so it doesnt look like its bothering him too much for a chronic back problem.
Would you rather watch Kurt Thomas get out rebounded by point guards and defenders sag right off Oberto and clog up driving lanes.
Maybe the Spurs should re-evaluate it since the FO is the one that tried to trade for him - not me.
Anyone have an idea of what those tires weigh?Duncan...spent part of the summer throwing tractor tires...
(You've got to love PopOver the summer, the staff had implemented a few wrinkles to the team’s system, which included varying how they defended the pick-and-roll.
“Creative, intelligent coaching moves,” Popovich said with his trademark sarcasm, “that turned out to be dog doo-doo.”)
I remember coach Brown making reference to how Boston played defense last year and that there were some aspects they wanted to integrate into their system, so that really stuck out to me. But after reading Ludden and the mea culpa Pop had in his interview prior to tonights game? I guess, not so much.
On a positive note, at least McDonald and Monroe's source has given them some good inside information we should be hearing about real soon.
COME HOME LUDDEN!!!
Cool article.
That would depend on the type of tractor, but was that part really serious? It's weird to imagine Duncan throwing big tires around.
So are Finley, Mason, Udoka, Manu-when-he-gets-back, and apparently George Hill. Do we really need another outside shooter? Really?
Other than what they had to give up to get him, they aren't out anything, they can just lose it for nothing.
I agree. Back issues don't discriminate.
Except that he's already on pace to play fewer than that since he's missed the last six in a row.
I'm not convinced that either of them is in game shape, but compare their stats to Harrington's the last two weeks. Yep, hard to put up numbers from the bench.
Don't puss out on me now. The Spurs obviously thought the Warriors were asking too much for him. You're the one that wants him here. What are you willing to give up? It's gonna have to be something of value.
I think it is serious, and I guess there's lots of sizes. I'm trying to get an idea of the weight that would be appropriate for that kind of training.That would depend on the type of tractor, but was that part really serious? It's weird to imagine Duncan throwing big tires around.
Again, let's hear your trade scenario. Bonner's playing good team ball right now and he's contributing. He also knows the defense.
"Popovich, too, has admitted he might have been too quick to cast Beno Udrih aside."
...ya
I wish Beno weren't such a ...he'd be nice to have around.
Pop said that after Beno lit em up for 21.
I still have zero qualms on letting Beno Udrih go, he didn't thrive in a pressure, latina filled enviroment.
Time to move on.
Pop was never going to give Beno what he thought was a fair chance, and Beno was never going to do anything up to Pop's standards, so it's too bad the relationship had to linger as long as it did. The Spurs shouldn't have picked up his option.
Praise for Matt???
I honestly don't know much about Al, is he really,a bad teammate, defender, and chucker? Not saying you're wrong, but doesn't he have qualities that would make it a profitable trade for the Spurs? He sounds like a decent 5th option. But if his back problems have resurfaced so recently, stay away from him like FOTC does sick monkeys.
Harrington? YGTBFKM.
The spurs don't need yet another 6'10 guy who loves to sit on the perimeter and chuck up 3's whenever they see the ball. And then play lazy crap defense. At least the two guys we have who fit that mold (Bonner and Tolliver) put some kind of effort into their defense.
Spurs need a guy who is going to get his ing nose in there and mix it up under the basket, get offensive rebounds, putbacks, and draw fouls in the process. Take charges and hit the 10-15 jumpshot with consistency. Kurt Thomas was supposed to that type of guy but its obvious he has too much mileage under his belt now.
I'd love to get Azubuike and Biedrins from GS, but it would take a major trade (ie Tony Parker) to get it done.
If Bonner can do this for 20 games fairly consistently then maybe ill be inclined to re-consider - but hes been here for 2 years and he just hasnt done a damn thing until the last couple games. I want him to succeed more than anyone, and ill be the first to admit hes been excellent this season - but Harrington is a proven scorer in this league.
Hes more athletic than Bonner, he can score off the dribble, and in the last 3 seasons, hes been a better 3 point shooter than Matt Bonner - which is suppose to be Bonner's forte. I realise he hasnt got the cleanest reputation in terms of being a winner or team player, but with one year left on his contract, its not like the Spurs are stuck with him if things dont pan out. The potential reward is much much bigger than the opposite.
As for my proposal, well if Bonner continues to play well, like you said earlier in this thread i think Nellie would take a chance on a big man who can spread the floor and shoot the long ball - obviously they would want more, but like Ludden said in his article the Spurs dont really have anything other teams want outside of the big 3.
He's in a contract year, so maybe he'd actually play some defense and stick his nose into the paint and scrap for rebounds and make hustle plays. Who knows.
I think Tolliver can be just as athletic as Harrington, problem is Popovich won't give him minutes. I like Bonner, but some situations call for a more athletic player, such as last night's Nuggets game for instance, and Popovich just doesn't get it.
I'd been lulled into an acceptance of the terrible Spurs beat-writing we now have to put up with, and I'd forgotten how good Ludden can be. Where is he now?
As for the team, I agree with the consensus - no-one wants our dross, so we just have to grit our teeth and bear with the team. We called for youth, at least we've got some to root for now, and we'll have more next year.
Wise words. Alot of mishaps and misfortunes. Ill tell ya when it started. When Manu decided to play for his country while being hurt. Manu not only put himself in harms way. But now he's added more minutes Timmy has to play. He completely changed this season. He changed our priority's. Maybe he thought if he got hurt it would only effect himself and his countrymen. But before he even started playing in China, I knew if he got hurt,(and of course he would, he was already limping), he would also make TPs and Duncans careers shorter. Hopefully when Manu comes back he will understand just how bad a mistake it was to play while being hurt. Or maybe Manu cant wait to get back on the court and get ready for after the season is over. How far are the World Championships from now? I bet Manu knows. And it was something TP mentioned as well when he got hurt. (pop might not let me play for the french). Until Manu comes back and leads us to another NBA championship. He is not forgiven. If we dont get another chance to at least win it all with Manu on this roster. At least yall all know when it started.
this is heavy ... even ducks fall short compared to your hate for Manu... get real
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