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Chris Bosh. Joe Johnson.
9.5 million isn't cheap, and he's injury prone. Limited offensively.
Don't get me wrong, if you can get him for scraps, a la Pau Gasol, then you do it. But still.
FWIW: I think this has about 1/1,000,000 chance of happening.
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Who are you guys willing to give up for Wallace?
Ahearn?
Do it, RC!
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Chris Bosh. Joe Johnson.
9.5 million isn't cheap, and he's injury prone. Limited offensively.
Don't get me wrong, if you can get him for scraps, a la Pau Gasol, then you do it. But still.
FWIW: I think this has about 1/1,000,000 chance of happening.
I think the more realistic question is whether the Spurs waive Ahearn and pick up Brown or Johnson.
Did Ahearn just play his 3rd game, or only his second?
9.5 mil is very good for a solid, young, and athletic 3. Considering that Dampier makes 13 mil, that seems reasonable.
I highly doubt the Spurs can get Bosh or Joe. Unless it is bye bye Manu. Wallace trade allows us to keep Manu.
But I agree, this has almost 0 chance of happening. i was just disagreeing with the logic why.
What?!? As things stand now, the Spurs are in a cap position to resign Manu and land a top shelf free agent in 2010. That's the whole point.
No they are not. If Manu gets an extension that is equal to or greater than what he makes now, then that cap space for a major player (bosh...) is gone.
shamsports.com
Do the math.
And Manu is not going to get paid more 2 years from now.
I don't know...if we don't, surely someone else would...
If Manu just gets an extension for what he makes now (10 M) that would put the Spurs at 44M for only 5 players. So you are saying the Spurs will have two guys on their team at that point that make 20M plus (Bosh or Joe) and Duncan? Along with Tony who makes 13.6 M and Manu at 10M? That would put right at the salary cap line (as of this year) with only 6 players.
Do the math
sounds like hes going to the nets. although i dont see why the nets would wnat to jeopardize their 2010 plan.
and for those saying his contract sucks.. it doesnt. even if it is long. its not like were going to wheel in lebron or wade or bosh. i dont know who were targetting 2010 anyway (other than resigning our own players.)
How on earth can you say that? He does not deserve a raise? The 10M he makes now is a steal.
I think Manu might get an 8, 9 million dollar contract that summer, but not more. He'll be too old. Frankly, I think he'd take less to stay in San Antonio so long as they are contending. He likes to win.
So essentially he would be getting the same contract as before. Then that definitely rules out a major player like Bosh or Joe who will be getting Max money.
Same contract as now essentially.
Yeah, he's really kicking ass right now. There's no telling what his value is going to be in a couple of summers.
It's pretty obvious Manu is the potentially expendable star for the 2010 plan. It just depends whether anyone more desirable signs up for the cap space his free agency will provide.
That is not the point. The point is either that you re-sign Manu or you let him go and sign someone else. There is no other option, unless the Spurs can talk him into excepting 5 Million or something like that.
You honestly think that Manu will not command money on the FA market. Spurs are not going to resign Manu and then Bosh or Joe Johnson or Wade or Lebron or Dirk or .............................................
I'm not saying the Spurs can land two big fish, I'm saying that theoretically they can land one. I threw out the names Bosh and Johnson as examples only. I wasn't suggesting they two players of that quality.
The other thing is that might be able sign a guy for less than the max in exchange for the opportunity to play with Duncan, Parker and Ginobili. If Hill and Mahinmi are as good as they could be by then, it will be an attractive pitch.
Well, I can't argue with that because that's what I said. I guess something with Manu and another player could have been worked out with a significantly raised salary cap, but that really can't be counted upon anymore.
A lot of it will depend on how many NBA games he misses the next two seasons.You honestly think that Manu will not command money on the FA market.
I should also say that if Ginobili wants more than 8 or 9 million at 33 the Spurs should probably let him walk. He doesn't play enough minutes per game to command much more during his years of decline.
the manu thats been with us since 03 deserves to make more, the manu from here on out is a different story. manu is my favorite player but i dont see him getting a 10+ mil extension from the spurs, thats just the business part.
Ian Thomsen's piece from SI.com today.
Bracing for the 2010 sweepstakes
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110187
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