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    As much as i would love Wallace on the Spurs im not willing to give up certain players to get him.

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    Can somebody explain to me the fascination with Mahinmi? I know he probably makes nothing and Wallace is owed something like $40 million over the next 4 years, but even then, I'd rather pay Wallace that much money than have Mahinmi for cheap. He's a project, Wallace is almost an All-Star caliber player.

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    So CD what are your thoughts?

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    Can somebody explain to me the fascination with Mahinmi? I know he probably makes nothing and Wallace is owed something like $40 million over the next 4 years, but even then, I'd rather pay Wallace that much money than have Mahinmi for cheap. He's a project, Wallace is almost an All-Star caliber player.

    The Spurs see alot of promise in this young guy from what i hear. He posses alot of raw talent and defensive abilities to assist Duncan in these areas.

    Spurs have shown that they dont need "allstar" caliber players to play along side the Big 3 to win championships. They just need good solid players to do thier role and excel in it.

    Mahinmi seems like a player we need right now and would hate to let go just to see him flourish somewhere else..

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    So CD what are your thoughts?
    As far as the Spurs are concerned, they probably consider themselves short three rotation players right now so I think they want to see what they actually have as a team before entering any serious trade talks. The only thing I think will happen in the next couple of months will be a new face or two in spot #15.

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    Any chance of picking up one of the waived players and dropping Ahearn?

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    The Spurs see alot of promise in this young guy from what i hear. He posses alot of raw talent and defensive abilities to assist Duncan in these areas.

    Spurs have shown that they dont need "allstar" caliber players to play along side the Big 3 to win championships. They just need good solid players to do thier role and excel in it.

    Mahinmi seems like a player we need right now and would hate to let go just to see him flourish somewhere else..
    Duncan is what, 32? I would say the Spurs le window only runs about another 2 years after this one. Wallace is a guy who I think could contribute to your team way more than Mahinmi could. I've been reading about him on this forum for what seems like almost 2 years now, so I understand that the Spurs have made a long-term investment in him, time-wise at least. But if I were Buford, I wouldn't hesitate to move him in order to acquire G-Force.

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    I'd trade Oberto, Mahinmi and whatever salary filler for Wallace in a second. Then I'd make Wallace play with a helmet so he doesn't have his 73rd concussion.

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    I'd trade Oberto, Mahinmi and whatever salary filler for Wallace in a second. Then I'd make Wallace play with a helmet so he doesn't have his 73rd concussion.
    If you were Donnie, would you trade Josh Howard for Wallace? Josh has got to be the softest and most inconsequential player ever to average 20 and 8.

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    I'd trade Oberto, Mahinmi and whatever salary filler for Wallace in a second. Then I'd make Wallace play with a helmet so he doesn't have his 73rd concussion.
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    Any chance of picking up one of the waived players and dropping Ahearn?
    Ahearn is probably done by tomorrow anyway.

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    Duncan is what, 32? I would say the Spurs le window only runs about another 2 years after this one. Wallace is a guy who I think could contribute to your team way more than Mahinmi could. I've been reading about him on this forum for what seems like almost 2 years now, so I understand that the Spurs have made a long-term investment in him, time-wise at least. But if I were Buford, I wouldn't hesitate to move him in order to acquire G-Force.
    I firmly believe the Spurs can remain compe ive through 2012, provided thye make the right move in 2010. Duncan's production remains consistent, and will make a great complimentary player in his mid-30s.

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    If you were Donnie, would you trade Josh Howard for Wallace? Josh has got to be the softest and most inconsequential player ever to average 20 and 8.
    Hmmmm ... that'd be a tough decision.

    Howard has lost his way a bit but not long ago he was an All-Star player. Wallace is damn good but he's also damn dumb and he's a walking injury concern.

    I'd probably keep Howard and hope that he matures and regains his All-Star form. When he's on, he's almost the perfect complement to Dirk. Wallace is more of a crash test dummy who is suited to be a fourth option ... not a second option like Howard.

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    I firmly believe the Spurs can remain compe ive through 2012, provided thye make the right move in 2010. Duncan's production remains consistent, and will make a great complimentary player in his mid-30s.
    +1 and let's not forget if Mahinmi and Hill turn out to be studs this team would be compe ive for a good while. I see Duncan having 3-4 more dominant years and would be the ideal player to have on your team in his later years.

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    Duncan is what, 32? I would say the Spurs le window only runs about another 2 years after this one.
    I hear this a lot, but applying the regular NBA formula to Duncan doesn't make sense. What part of his game relies on footspeed or jumping ability? In other words, what is he going to lose in the next two years that's going to render him unable to put up 18-22 ppg and 9-11 rpg? The Spurs' le window depends on his teammates a of a lot more than it does on him. Seriously, Bruce Bowen's game relies a whole lot more on athleticism than Duncan's does, and he's five years older.

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    Back on topic, the Spurs' poor record might actually help them if they wanted to pick up one of the available guys off waivers.

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    Gerald Wallace A Spur!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yyyyyyyyyyyyeaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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    I do not get why people say it is a salary cap nightmare. Who do you think we will be able to realistically get in 2010? If the Spurs got a Wallace type player I would be thrilled since he fill one of our biggest needs, he is only 26 and he makes a reasonable amount of money for a player with his abilities at 9.5 mil. He will only be 30 when his contract is up.

    Especially because it helps us win now.
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    spurs need a big man

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    No way that gets done! I cant see Pops and RC cutting into the 2010 plan for wallace. He is a very good player and can give us a super defender, rebounder and a fourth scorer but at 11 mil per year it would put us out of the running in 2010.

    If they took scrubs for him I still would do it cause I say win now, not when Duncan is 34-35.

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    No way that gets done! I cant see Pops and RC cutting into the 2010 plan for wallace. He is a very good player and can give us a super defender, rebounder and a fourth scorer but at 11 mil per year it would put us out of the running in 2010.

    If they took scrubs for him I still would do it cause I say win now, not when Duncan is 34-35.
    I hear you. a 2010 plan. This team needs help now. Besides, I read somewhere there may be as many as 17 teams with cap space, locked and loaded, all vying the attentions of the prime players expected to be available during that infamous free agent summer. The Spurs can't seem to get FAs to come to their team during bear market periods. Why on earth would they expect being able to land one of those top-tier players in a crowded market?

    Two years from doesn't get Duncan more help or solve the immediate short-term issues with this team. If I'm them, I'd worry about improving this team now and trying to wrestle the championship trophy out of Boston.

    Make Charlotte an offer and see if they bite. Besides, Larry Brown owes us a solid for the ill-fated Jackie Butler referral.

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    I think Charlotte is looking to get better through trades.

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    I think the more realistic question is whether the Spurs waive Ahearn and pick up Brown or Johnson.
    Andre Brown is a very good rebounder-- currently averaging 13.9 per 48 minutes, which puts him even with Okafor and Diop. The bonus is that he can be had for a minimum contract. He'll be able to give a reasonable 8-10 mpg, which is more than the Spurs are expecting from Ahearn. He'll also add a little bit of bulk to the front line. Nothing against Ahearn, but with Manu and Tony reportedly progressing ahead of schedule, he seems expendable. And the Spurs have been especially weak in rebounding so far this year.

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    I think Charlotte is looking to get better through trades.
    Ha.

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    Andre Brown is a very good rebounder-- currently averaging 13.9 per 48 minutes, which puts him even with Okafor and Diop. The bonus is that he can be had for a minimum contract. He'll be able to give a reasonable 8-10 mpg, which is more than the Spurs are expecting from Ahearn. He'll also add a little bit of bulk to the front line. Nothing against Ahearn, but with Manu and Tony reportedly progressing ahead of schedule, he seems expendable. And the Spurs have been especially weak in rebounding so far this year.
    See: Butler, Jackie. At least when extrapolating stats on that sort of sample.

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    If the Spurs take on more cap (2010 and beyond) in a trade, I'd rather they aim smaller. Hedge their bets so to speak. Players in the 5 million or less range still leaves them the option of letting Manu walk and throwing a max at someone. Or, they can simply resign Manu and bring a 2nd or 3rd tier guy with the left over space.

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