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  1. #2776
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    ---random thought---

    You know…I see a lot of talk about unions to stop this fitch thing but IMO the solution will come when UFC hits mainstream. The press pressure will put a stop to this crap. The UFC (as with every business) will get away with as much as they can if there is no public/media outcry
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    ---random thought---

    You know…I see a lot of talk about unions to stop this fitch thing but IMO the solution will come when UFC hits mainstream. The press pressure will put a stop to this crap. The UFC (as with every business) will get away with as much as they can if there is no public/media outcry
    I don't know if it can stop Dana from doing what he thinks is the best.

    I wonder how his conversation with Chuck looked like
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    Goran Reljic a hero:

    The first and only report from the Croatian press I've seen of this incident was published today by this Croatian news site. Apparently two men crashed into the sea at 3 AM near the home of Reljic who jumped out of bed and rescued the two men in his underwear. The entire article is available at Fight Ticker:

    When he heard the crash, Goran jumped out of bed, still in his underwear and jumped into the sea.

    He swam to the car, proceeded to brake the windshield of the vehicle and pull both men to land. Several eyewitness accounts confirm the story and so does Goran himself who doesn't want any praise or recognition for the good deed.

    "The only satisfaction I get is that both young men are alive and healthy. I don't need any praise. I simply did what anyone one would have done in that situation," said Reljic.
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    I don't know if it can stop Dana from doing what he thinks is the best.

    I wonder how his conversation with Chuck looked like
    It will...when it affects the bottom line he will listen and until real media get after him nothing will be done.
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  5. #2780
    It will...when it affects the bottom line he will listen and until real media get after him nothing will be done.
    And it is the sometimes shady business practices of the UFC that i have issues with.. Don't preach about treatment and loyalty to fighters Dana when you pull this stuff. It balances out and it's not good business to cut top level guys who aren't making star level cash.. This seemed like it was just message they were looking to send to everyone.. I mean if Fitch is right the UFC is going to can Kos after his up-coming fight or just do it now and get it over with..
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  6. #2781
    LOL at Leonard fighting with the clubies about Shaq vs Penn hahahah
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  7. #2782
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    LOL at Leonard fighting with the clubies about Shaq vs Penn hahahah
    I lost my will for that argument after the MMA fighter Vs Navy seal thread from last year........
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    LOL at Leonard fighting with the clubies about Shaq vs Penn hahahah
    Good times!
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    Fitch is back!
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    I lost my will for that argument after the MMA fighter Vs Navy seal thread from last year........
    Yeah same here I was tempted to chime in but I kept my cool. I was tempted because half of the people arguing with him I argue with all the time. Most of them are arguing for the sake of arguing. IronMexican talks like he has been here for a long time hahah, he has only been here 6 months.

    Yeah its pretty funny and they think we were spamming threads......I dont recall us ever going that route.
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    fightlinker

    Here’s Akihiro Gono talking about the UFC sending him bonus money for his awesome dance number and his attempt to speak English UFC 89. Note that this is translated by Japanese blogger Gryphon, who also attempts to write English. I give him a spiritual bonus for trying hard … his translation made my day:

    UFC send me “FIGHTER BONUS”………………..ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

    this bonus has letter too.

    “Dana White and Rorenzo give you bonus for your promotion and effort”

    it probably means entrance performance,but If it include my English talking,i am glad

    but,to say the trush, I wanted to tell you “WINNER interview”,it is prepared paerfectly. I am sorry.

    My Winnertalk could heat up house………

    but,This bonus is valuable as much as WINNER bonus for me.

    because not only winner or loser,

    An asian fighte GONO AKIHIRO is known as totalpackage character.i feel

    my motivation is up and up,

    and UFC offer me!

    absolutely OK!!
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    PRICELESS SPURS FAN polandprzem's Avatar
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    Me understand he says
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    Gono is funny...
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    The fact that Lorenzo is Rorenzo makes my heart sing....

    My step mom and step brother are fresh out of Tokyo and its just so perfect with how they talk.
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    Is this where you gy MMA fans discuss who to suck off first?
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  16. #2791
    Is this where you gy MMA fans discuss who to suck off first?
    Bring Gina over here and she'll tell me what she wants sucked on...
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  17. #2792
    Bring Gina over here and she'll tell me what she wants sucked on...
    HEY thats my future wife your talking about!!!
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  18. #2793
    HEY thats my future wife your talking about!!!
    Don't you mean your future ex-Wife??
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    awsome...haha
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    Don't you mean your future ex-Wife??
    Well yeah every girl I date is potentially my future ex wife. What can I say I have commitment issues. Ill prob hate Brock and AA in a few months hahaha.
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    Bunch of BS

    Following a recent five-month delay in payment to lightweight contender Nick Diaz, the Japanese-based DREAM promotion has again run behind on compensating its fighters.

    The participants in question this time are heavyweight Jimmy Ambriz (13-11-1) and lightweight Todd Moore (9-3). Both U.S.-based fighters participated in September's DREAM.6 event.

    "As far as I'm concerned, they pretty much have stiffed us," Moore told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com). "The fight was Sept. 23, and we're going on into [late November] and they still haven't paid. That's two months. That sucks, man."

    MMAjunkie.com was able to speak to Moore despite, what he said, have been his recent attempts at dodging phone calls from bill collectors awaiting the money the Texan earned in a first-round submission loss to Shinya Aoki. The three-year professional said he has never before found himself in this predicament.

    "The closest thing was I had one bounced check from one promoter, but he eventually paid within the same month," Moore said. "And he informed me, 'Hey, I had a couple of bounced checks, just to give you a heads-up.' Then he was able to pay me back pretty quickly. (It was) by far quicker than DREAM has been."

    Mike Kogan, the U.S. representative for DREAM's parent company Fight Entertainment Group, said the missing money was simply an oversight by the company's accounting department.

    "They're not getting stiffed," Kogan said of Moore and Ambriz. "Let me put it this way: They'll get their money. There's been reports in the past that we were a little slow in paying, and to a lot of the American fighters, it might seem a little weird. Because with the commission here against how the promoters pay in the U.S. -- right after the event they get their checks -- we don't do that. But that's disclosed in the contracts."

    Moore and Ambriz's agent, Ken Pavia of MMAagents.com, said he was aware of the delayed payment requirements of the Japanese-based promotion. But Pavia points out that the contract stipulated the money would be paid before the end of October, and that DREAM officials have proved difficult to deal with during the process.

    "[DREAM] can't [pay at the event] anymore because of some sort of Japanese tax audit, which requires, for paper trails, them to wire the money," Pavia said. "They told us that we would have it soon thereafter. And it's been what, two months now?

    "They told us it was wired twice, and it wasn't. We never received it. Once [DREAM officials said] it got kicked back, and the second time they re-wired it, and they don't know what the problem is. But it hasn't made it to us. And that was two weeks ago."

    Kogan insisted the fighters would be quickly compensated once the accounting errors were corrected.

    "As far as I know the contract stipulates that all fighters will get paid within the month following the month in which they fought," Kogan said. "So if they fought in September, then they would have been paid in October. If they still haven't been paid then, there's probably either some kind of accounting error or backlog or something else unrelated to any kind of a problem -- more of an administrative issue.

    "I know for a fact that our accounting department issues payments -- not just for fighters, but in general -- every 15 days. So if they were backlogged in October, they might have put it onto the November roster."

    Diaz's most recent appearance for DREAM was a May win at DREAM.5 over Katsuya Inoue. It took until October for Diaz to receive his purse for the bout.

    Kogan explained that while that situation may seem controversial at first glance, it was again a simple mistake that was quickly addressed.

    "Believe it or not -- some of this stuff sounds kind of ridiculous, but this has happened in the past," Kogan said. "In Nick Diaz's case, I don't know who, but obviously there's a lot of people that work for FEG in our accounting department. And half of them don't even know what Nick Diaz looks like. They're just paper-pushers. Well somebody apparently filed his (account) as paid. So as far as our accounting was concerned, he was paid.

    "I don't know why they filed it that way. So after months and months of me ing and ing and ing, they kept looking and kept looking and kept looking. Finally somebody said, 'Well wait a minute. We thought that blah, blah, blah.' And he was paid immediately. Actually he received his money right in time since he's out of a job right now."

    Kogan insisted both Ambriz, who took a bout with Sergei Kharitonov at the last possible moment on the September card, and Moore would be compensated fairly and accurately -- and that the entire situation was a non-story.

    "I fear for MMA if it's newsworthy that Ambriz hasn't gotten paid yet," Kogan said. "If that's what's on the mind of MMA fans, then fire away and report it.

    "I think they're probably more interested in what 80 fighters being held hostage by a ProElite/CBS war, who are unemployed and unable to look for a job, they want to know. Ambriz will get his money, trust me, within the next week at the latest."

    Ambriz hopes Kogan's assurances are realized, but feels the situation demands a touch more concern.

    "I just really want to be paid, basically," Ambriz said. "I put the work in and it's the compensation time. I don't want this to get stretched out into a legal situation. But if that's what we have to do, that's what I'll do.

    "You put your work in and contracts are signed. Live up to your end of the contract."
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    Inside MMA to Rage in the Cage Promoter, Roland.

    Ron Kruck: what is the strangest thing that you have ever happen

    Roland: There was fighter fighting with loose shorts and a jock strap and when you wear a jock strap it doesn't cover your behind very well.. he got hit in the stomach and a turd fell out onto the mat.
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    Good read from Sherdog:

    Technical Fowl
    Monday, November 24, 2008
    by Jake Rossen ([email protected])


    Thanksgiving: the holiday best celebrated by abusing your arteries and securing central obesity’s graduation from “health concern” to “full-blown epidemic.”

    In between trips to the apple pie trough, you might feel compelled to mumble some gra ude toward family, friends or -- may God forgive these words -- the fight promoters.

    Mindful that excessive carbohydrate consumption might render your brain as useful as a bowl of congealed Quaker oatmeal, here’s a handy holiday reminder of things any MMA fan should be grateful for.

    UFC: The Main Course

    Twenty-six live events, two weekly best-of shows, two seasons of television’s guiltiest reality-show pleasure and 95 percent of the top fighting talent in the world, all regularly cracking each other’s bones for our entertainment pleasure.

    It may be de rigueur to harass management for their business practices, but there’s little merit in claiming that any other company provides the sheer quality, quan y and in-cage integrity of Zuffa’s Ultimate Fighting Championship. In a year where we’ve seen some truly heinous behavior from the me-too promoters -- who always seem a step away from either prison stripes or bankruptcy court -- the UFC’s efforts have looked positively pristine in comparison.

    Unlike boxing, which has a roof audibly creaking from the weight of past transgressions, the UFC has essentially genized combat sports -- an accomplishment on par with Harold “Red” Grange moving from college to pro football and turning the latter from a national joke into a national phenomenon.

    Champions fight rightful contenders, weight classes are kept to a minimum and big fights are the rule rather than the exception. That kind of uniformity is the major reason mainstream media outlets are running fight results alongside NBA scores.

    No money? No problem. Of the 26 UFC and WEC events that will be held this year, 14 of them aired on free television; they’ve made millionaires out of guys who had previously fought for a few thousand bucks and a free Trimark VHS tape; they compensate even lower-tier talent with performance incentives, circulate back-door checks like night club flyers and make a genuine effort to determine who the Best Fighter in the World really is.

    The banner isn’t perfect -- the fine print, as we’ve seen in the Jon Fitch likeness fiasco, is stubbornly one-sided -- but in the often-dirty world of pugilism, it’s the sport’s equivalent to comfort food: You know exactly what you’re going to get. And that’s a good thing.

    Fighters: The Skin and Bone

    Sympathetic fans know that fighters that play conservative games are only looking out for their best interests: health, career longevity and that all-important “W.”

    But then there are those athletes that fight like they’re running through a burning building. Think of guys like Clay Guida, Thiago Alves, Karo Parisyan, Urijah Faber and another few dozen you’ll wind up naming yourself. Note that the announcers never have to mention how they’re catching their breath, or “conserving energy” or “looking out for their record.” These guys come to fight.

    It’s awesome -- in the literal definition of that overused word -- to see someone display the results of intensive training and personal desire.

    There will forever be a chicken-and-egg debate about which is more important, promoters or athletes, but keep in mind the fan following the aforementioned Mr. Slice built up with a camcorder and a patch of dry grass, with nary a strobe light in sight.

    This sport -- and the motivation we derive from it to pursue our own goals -- is nothing without the personal and professional sacrifices made by its compe ors. You don’t have to cheer for them, shake their hand or even necessarily like them, but you should always appreciate the blood they shed on the canvas. It really is a work of art.

    HDNet: The Mixed Casserole (aka The I’m-Running-Out-of-Metaphors-for-This-Thing)

    Credit e television for their UFC content, but it’s hardly charity work at this point: The UFC has become synonymous with their brand, and I’m sure their stockings are well stuffed.

    I’m more impressed with the efforts of Mark Cuban’s obscure HDNet channel to highlight the remainder of the MMA sporting world: shows beamed in from Japan; regional events like Adrenaline, Strikeforce and Sportfight; a respectable roundtable/news program in “Inside MMA.” All of it polished and all of it presented in the cornea pornography that is 1080i.

    Since HDNet falls somewhere north of C-SPAN in terms of public awareness, and since it’s assumed that live Japanese feeds probably aren’t cheap, credit should go to the network for soaking up the rest of the non-UFC MMA world and making it available to people who don’t know a “bit torrent” from a termite bite.

    Affliction: The Wildly Irresponsible Dessert

    Depression is said to increase around the holidays. While that may be due to a number of factors, chief among them has to be the annual sideshow that Fedor Emelianenko gets sucked into overseas. What could be worse than watching a genuinely great fighter waste valuable ring time locked in amoral combat with undeserving opposition?

    Any Emelianenko fan should be over the moon that Affliction is willing to meet the Russian’s price despite his underwhelming box office appeal stateside. Instead of a New Year’s contest between him and an inflatable octopus, we get to see a real test of his skills against a hungry Andrei Arlovski in January.

    I’ve no idea how much longer Affliction can run at a deficit, but the fact that they’ve squeezed at least two compe ive fights out of Emelianenko is an obscenely generous treat.

    Thanks also go out to:

    Seth Petruzelli for using a well-placed right cross to reality-check Kimbo Slice’s grossly over-manipulated career ascension … Frank Shamrock for at least offering to save EliteXC from total annihilation by telling brass he’d fight Slice after adoptive brother Ken Shamrock slipped on some errant Metamucil backstage … Shamrock, Cung Le, Scott Smith and Robbie Lawler for slugging it out with an intensity that makes me feel like I need testosterone replacement therapy … Brock Lesnar for skipping the Japanese freak circuit and getting thrown in the deep end of the UFC’s waters … Randy Couture and the UFC for realizing the futility of their legal sniping contest, even if it resulted in Lesnar beating his head like Desi Arnaz working a conga drum … B.J. Penn for finally taking the sport seriously and giving his skills the proper engine to run on … Mike Goldberg for retiring the phrase “meteoric rise” from his list of verbal go-tos. That’s one down and only 23 more to go.
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    jeff joslin is at my school this week teaching self defence and it only cost me 5 bucks
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    From mmajunkie:

    Despite earlier reports that a Urijah Faber (21-2 MMA, 6-1 WEC) vs. Jose Aldo (12-1 MMA, 2-0 WEC) bout was likely for the WEC's as-yet-unannounced January card, sources close to the bout have now revealed that Faber will instead take part in a rematch.

    Unfortunately for Faber, that rematch is not the one he was seeking with new featherweight champion Mike Brown, but instead with former UFC lightweight champion Jens Pulver (22-10-1 MMA, 1-2 WEC).

    Faber defeated Pulver by unanimous decision in their memorable first meeting at WEC 34 in June.

    A nine-year veteran of MMA, Pulver has earned victories in the UFC, WEC, PRIDE, the IFL and Shooto.

    The MMA legend has struggled recently, losing four of his past five fights. While his recent losses have come to elite-level talent such as Faber, Leonard Garcia, B.J. Penn, Hayato "Mach" Sakurai and Takanori Gomi, Pulver is just 4-6 in his previous 10 bouts.

    Faber will be looking to rebound from his recent loss to Brown. Before the loss in the main event of "WEC 36: Faber vs. Brown" earlier this month, Faber had not tasted defeat in over three years.



    Despite being a fan of Pulver's for years, I don't see this ending well for him. It was amazing that he took Faber to decision the first time, but Urijah won't let that happen again. Jens is a tough little guy, but Faber isn't going to waste any time in his bid to get the le back. And while Jens has good boxing and great wrestling, his sub defense leaves a lot to be desired.
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