Chris Kaman to the Spurs?

[MarHill]

Basically we try and get a ton of contract (like matt Bonner's and Roger mason's) that will be done by 2010 so we can sign free agents. The options are LeBron James, Chis Bosh, D-Wade, Amare, and possibly Kobe. As far as I know we will want a big like Amare or Bosh, but if Manu is not as productive as we hope there is a chance we grab Wade, and there is a very small chance we get leBron. The market isn't big but championships would be won with Tony at point Manu at 2 LeBron at 3 and Tim Duncan at PF/C and maybe Ian at the other big.

Let not forget that by then we will have James Gist coming off the bench scoring 40 a game and averaging about 20 rebounds per game.

Also, I believe if Roger Mason plays well in the next 2 seasons..the Spurs will re-sign him.

[peskypesky]

Basically we try and get a ton of contract (like matt Bonner's and Roger mason's) that will be done by 2010 so we can sign free agents. The options are LeBron James, Chis Bosh, D-Wade, Amare, and possibly Kobe. As far as I know we will want a big like Amare or Bosh, but if Manu is not as productive as we hope there is a chance we grab Wade, and there is a very small chance we get leBron. The market isn't big but championships would be won with Tony at point Manu at 2 LeBron at 3 and Tim Duncan at PF/C and maybe Ian at the other big.

Let not forget that by then we will have James Gist coming off the bench scoring 40 a game and averaging about 20 rebounds per game.

I'm sorry, but the 2010 plan is completely re ed. Spurs are NEVER able to sign major free agents. NEVER. Nobody who is free ever wants to play in SA. The Spurs have been the winningest team in all of sports for the past DECADE, have won 4 championships, have been anchored by the greatest PF of all-time, and have NOT ONCE been able to sign a major free agent. All our stars were drafted.

I know it sucks, but year after year, the major free agents pass on coming to the Spurs. Elton Brand passed. Jermain O'Neal passed. Numerous others have passed. And it hasn't been only a money issue. Major players just do not want to play in a small-market city like SA.

The 2010 plan is crap.

[peskypesky]

Well it really has been a money issue. We were on top of people's lists but time and time again they just got a better offer. Maggette almost signed with us for the full MLE but instead got a much bigger contract from the Warriors. And are we all not happy that the Kidd deal fell through? The would mean Manu would have left, Tony would have left, Jack was already gone ect. But now I think we will have enoguh money cleared to offer a max contract to any free agent. Although our max isn't that much compared to a European contract.

OK, you mentioned two free agents. Surely there haven't been only two good free agents in the past 10 years?

[Buddy Holly]

I know it sucks, but year after year, the major free agents pass on coming to the Spurs. Elton Brand passed. Jermain O'Neal passed. Numerous others have passed. And it hasn't been only a money issue. Major players just do not want to play in a small-market city like SA.

It's not money? They don't want to play in small market cities?

Yet you name O'Neal who resigned with the INDIANA PACERS.

9/10 it IS about MONEY and that's the bottomline.

[m33p0]

spurs FO will hold off any plans to bring in a new guy until they have finally evaluated the full team.

[Buddy Holly]

In the past 10 years when did we ever have an option to sign a player to the max?

Exactly. We've only once in the past 10 years had enough money to try and sign a MAX player and sadly that one player was Kidd in 2010 and thankfully he listened to his psychotic wife who wanted to stay in the New York area.

Quit acting like every summer or every other summer we through tons and tons of cash at top players only to be turned down. That is not the reality of things.

[vander]

the more I think about it, the more I want Kaman. Fabs is terrible and Thomas doesn't look to great either, how soon can we trade Thomas?

[Spurtacus]

Kaman would be an upgrade over Thomas and Oberto. Duncan + Kaman > Gasol + Bynum.

[manufor3]

Beacuse of the Randolph trade, im suspecting that Kaman may be the odd man out. Any of you want him?

[ElNono]

I'd love to have him. That said, I doubt the Spurs are willing to take on his contract. It's a shame, because I think Ian is not going to be ready for at least another season, if he's NBA caliber at all (we still don't know). Kaman is a proven player, and can help TD right now. Then again, his 11+ million for the 2010+ years seem more than what our FO wants to normally take on.

[DPG21920]

I'd love to have him. That said, I doubt the Spurs are willing to take on his contract. It's a shame, because I think Ian is not going to be ready for at least another season, if he's NBA caliber at all (we still don't know). Kaman is a proven player, and can help TD right now. Then again, his 11+ million for the 2010+ years seem more than what our FO wants to normally take on.

I think if the Spurs could get Kaman they would now. In 2010, Kaman is about the best type of player they could hope for if they want Manu Ginobili as well. So if they could do it and start winning now instead of 2010, they would.

[mystargtr34]

What do you think the Clips would take from us?

I cant see a scenario that would work.

[DPG21920]

What do you think the Clips would take from us?

I cant see a scenario that would work.

Neither do I. I do not think the Spurs have anything the Clips would want. I was just saying that if the Spurs could get Kaman they would imo because that is about as good as you can hope to get realistically.

[timaios]

I'd love to have him. That said, I doubt the Spurs are willing to take on his contract. It's a shame, because I think Ian is not going to be ready for at least another season, if he's NBA caliber at all (we still don't know). Kaman is a proven player, and can help TD right now. Then again, his 11+ million for the 2010+ years seem more than what our FO wants to normally take on.

The 2008 Kaman plan is better than the maybe 2010. Duncan & Ginobili are ready now. In 2 years i don't know.
We have a great scoring addition this year with Mason, a good backup PG and even Finley and Bonner are playing well.
We need a ing center who can SCORE in the paint and take rebounds.
So if by a miracle the FO can trade Kaman then the 2010 plan.
With Kaman, Spurs could win 1 le or more the next 3-4 years.
Do it !!!

[ducks]

not sure I like this move

[DROB4EVER]

Trueth be told I think getting Camby may be the better deal for us. He is a rebounding and shot blocking machine, plus he can play the high post and with only 2 years at 10mil per it wouldnt mess up the 2010 plan.

Thats the move I would make, send KT, JV AND BONNER N Ukoka and through in some picks and the Clips should go for it. They wanna dump salary and rebiuld again...they like getting high draft picks so this would help both teams!

[TheTruth]

What do we have to offer that could get us that good a player? KT, JV, Bonner, and Udoka???? Why would any team part with an above average starting center for that junk?

[timaios]

Trueth be told I think getting Camby may be the better deal for us. He is a rebounding and shot blocking machine, plus he can play the high post and with only 2 years at 10mil per it wouldnt mess up the 2010 plan.

Thats the move I would make, send KT, JV AND BONNER N Ukoka and through in some picks and the Clips should go for it. They wanna dump salary and rebiuld again...they like getting high draft picks so this would help both teams!

Huh... the Clippers have also a 2010 plan ! That's why they could trade Kaman and his 4 years ($9,500,000 + $10,400,000 + $11,300,000 + $12,200,000).
Camby may be the better deal for the Spurs but not for the Clippers.
And Camby will be 35 in march ! Kaman is 26.

[timaios]

What do we have to offer that could get us that good a player? KT, JV, Bonner, and Udoka???? Why would any team part with an above average starting center for that junk?

Because their team sucks and they want to get rid of heavy contracts for 2010 free agents.

[galvatron3000]

Camby is prone to injury and what is his contract like? I always fely Camby would be a great replacement for D Rob but onl at a reasonable price. He can rebound, block shots, defend and hit the 15 footer. Next to Tim he is perfect, small frame but no matter unless Shaq is on the floor and Tim can play defensive center.

[timaios]

Camby is prone to injury and what is his contract like? I always fely Camby would be a great replacement for D Rob but onl at a reasonable price. He can rebound, block shots, defend and hit the 15 footer. Next to Tim he is perfect, small frame but no matter unless Shaq is on the floor and Tim can play defensive center.

2008 $10,000,000
2009 $9,650,000

[K-State Spur]

I know it sucks, but year after year, the major free agents pass on coming to the Spurs. Elton Brand passed. Jermain O'Neal passed. Numerous others have passed. And it hasn't been only a money issue. Major players just do not want to play in a small-market city like SA.

Please, name all the MAJOR free agents who have signed in big markets like NY, LA, or Chicago since the CBA was re-vamped????? *crickets* *crickets*

[DROB4EVER]

Huh... the Clippers have also a 2010 plan ! That's why they could trade Kaman and his 4 years ($9,500,000 + $10,400,000 + $11,300,000 + $12,200,000).
Camby may be the better deal for the Spurs but not for the Clippers.
And Camby will be 35 in march ! Kaman is 26.

The Clippers have no 2010 plan, thats why they got Randolph and B Davis. Camby's age is not a factor, he will split time with Ian and his contract is up in 2 years. He also has kept himself in good shape and he is one of the top 3 players when it comes to what we need most...rebounding and shot blocking.

Duncan and Camby would be a great defensive tandom! Kaman has more upside and is better on Offense but Camby Ian and Duncan would make us a great defensive team now without giving up the 2010 play. Getting Kaman would be great but it would screw the 2010 plan and I dont see RC doing that. Camby is 34....... KT is what 37 bowen 37 Fin 35....we dont have a problem with older players and Camby is still very productive....unlike Bowen and KT.

[galvatron3000]

Look for the Spurs to make a run at Larry Brown's old big, Rasheed Wallace next summer.

[DROB4EVER]

Please, name all the MAJOR free agents who have signed in big markets like NY, LA, or Chicago since the CBA was re-vamped????? *crickets* *crickets*

I agree, most FA stay with their teams due to the fact the team that ownes the players rights can pay about 12.5% more over the life of the contract under the CBA.

My problem with the 2010 plan is that we will be one of 10-12 teams who will have max money. And while we can offer the fact that SA has no state income tax which saves a player like 8% we are gonna be competing with a bunch of teams.

I dont think the spurs are gonna go after the top 5 guys.....they will likely make a pitch to LJ but Im thinking they go after the older guys who are hungery for a ring.....Dirk, Joe Johnson, TMac....ect. I think a couple guys will like the fact they could play with TD and TP and a good group of role players like Ian, Likely Gist and Splitter, Hill and Mason or Manu.