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For the last couple of years, the Spurs have been dying for that 4th guy who doesn't give a about Tony, Tim, or Manu and just plays his game, shoots when he's open, defends, and does it all while staying in the system.
Roger Mason is that guy.
How will he handle the transition with Ginobili? In Harvey's article, he mention a play I immediately notice: Mason forcing a shot when Ginobili was open for a 3. And he considers him just "another guy who make plays."
Thoughts?
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/M...blessings.html
For the last couple of years, the Spurs have been dying for that 4th guy who doesn't give a about Tony, Tim, or Manu and just plays his game, shoots when he's open, defends, and does it all while staying in the system.
Roger Mason is that guy.
If that comment (made by Mason) couldn't be taken out of context anymore than it just was...
Honestly, I remember that play Harvey is talking about and it wasn't a big deal. Yes, Manu was open; yes, Mason forced the shot instead of passing. We see things like that all the time, it doesn't mean .
I hate when people jump at the chance to create controversy where there is none.
Good point, Love. Too bad he'll leave after a few years because he'll want to be the main man somewhere else.
Just to counter, as if Manu's never forced a shot while someone was open at the three. No need to make a discussion out of nothing.
Mason isn't a "main man" type of player. Whether he believes it himself or not (I don't think he does) I doubt he'd get that type of money.
He's a great role player but not a main man.
It was.
This is what happens when people try to make an issue out of nothing. It scares folks.I really hope so.
The last thing we want is a second coming Steve Francis or Starburry in a spur uniform.
WeŽll see what happens.
if mason has the hot hands? shoot it.... the open man
brent barry had many of these occasions where he passed it up instead of shooting
He was 5-5 from downtown
pull the trigger!
what kind of drama queen are you?
No big deal. I agree with ILMSM. We need that guy that will go for it and not worry about our big three. We saw what was happening early on when they were trying to force feed Timmy and were afraid of the ball.
Once he starts playing with Manu more and gets those badass passes then things will change. As for now let that fly.
Good point....That's why I almost hesitant of bringing Parker back early.
I never thought I'd say that.
But this squad right now looks awesome. I know it was Memphis. But I wouldn't work Parker in too quickly...let him take his time.
Barry's problem wasn't that he forced the issue, it was that he would pass up wide open shot opportunities on occasion. Plus, the play in question was indeed a bonehead move by Mason, nothing criminal, just boneheaded.
The problem here is with people trying to make this out to be a bull personal thing, like the OP here.
Much to do about nothing, here.
Mason had the hot hand and has been the second scoring option for this team for a couple weeks now. Who's really surprised that he missed one open pass in the first game Manu came back?
I'm pretty sure he understands his place in the hierarchy of this team.
And frankly, it wouldn't be that bad if he felt like he deserved to be included as part of the Big 4.
Big 4?!
We got the big 5 now! Tim-Tony-Manu-Mason-Hill the new fab 5!
21-9-20-8-3 sounds like a locker combination.
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If anything Mason is going to benefit from Ginobili. Ginobili has good court vision, and with him back defenses are going to focus on him giving Mason even more shots!
It wouldn't be Spurstalk without some poster creating drama over an imagined slight to their favorite player.
I can't imagine what teams are going to do when we've got Tim, Tony, Manu, and Mason on the floor with any other shooter.
Pretty much all four of those guys can command a double team if they are on. Then a guy like Finley or Bonner (yes I said it) could just sit back and gobble up the wide open shots if they are having an on day. Or stick Bruce in for defense and corner threes.
I love his aggressiveness. He's the first new guy the Spurs have brought in for a while that hasn't been too shy about pulling the trigger straight out the gate. I take that back, NVE would shoot no questions asked, but Mason actually hits them.
When a guy is stroking them the way Mason has been the last couple of games, it's hard to talk about him "forcing a shot". When the basket looks as big as a washtub, you want to shoot.
I heard his comment about Manu, too, and I didn't take it the way the article makes it sound. He wasn't saying that Manu was "just another guy", but that the Spurs now have "yet" another play-maker. It just means that the rumors of the Spurs' demise were premature.
They also asked Mason about being able to get in a better shooting rhythm at the point, because of having the ball in his hands all the time. Mason agreed that it helps his rhythm, but then he said that "there are other ways of getting in rhythm" and whatever they want him to do, he is down for it.
Mason doesn't get to the hole as easily as Manu or Parker, or even George Hill. And that's a good thing, because we have desperately needed someone to spread the floor and keep teams from packing the paint the whole game. As long as Mason keeps getting the green light to shoot, he and Manu will benefit from each other, and they are both smart enough to know that.
Just like it was premature to talk about the Spurs' demise, it's way too early to stir up a controversy because of that one (misconstrued) comment by Mason. There is a reason why the Spurs brought Roger Mason to San Antonio, and it goes beyond his shooting stroke.
I like Buck but the way he manipulated that quote seemed very forced. Mason wants the team to win. I don't see any problem here.
Mason plays better at the point. Its obvious to see that. Manu plays better as a SG.
They can play together NO DOUBT. They just need time together for that chemistry to work out. They are both HIGH BBIQ players, who have good court vision and can create plays for the whole team. Its going to be beautiful basketball to watch...
I think Pop will close games with this lineup:Mason plays better at the point. Its obvious to see that. Manu plays better as a SG.
They can play together NO DOUBT. They just need time together for that chemistry to work out. They are both HIGH BBIQ players, who have good court vision and can create plays for the whole team. Its going to be beautiful basketball to watch...
TP/MG/RMJ/BB/TD
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