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the first time i see Barkley speaking the truth. the only way u would think oden is better than bynum is if u ar a trailblazer fan
http://insider.espn.go.com/proxy/pro...3fid%3d3715609
Charles irritating Portland fans again
the first time i see Barkley speaking the truth. the only way u would think oden is better than bynum is if u ar a trailblazer fan
He also said only 5 teams could win it all this year
Lakers
Celts
Hornets
Jazz
Detroit
lmao
Barkley said Yao wouldn't score in double digits in a game his rookie season.
He also said the Cavs wouldn't make the playoffs last season.
Who knows which player is better? But, it's clear to take whatever Barkley says with a grain of salt.
Too early to tell.
Just remember the Mavs - Warriors predictions..
yea this is a no brainer.
Hopefully Oden can turn it around like Yao did
"If you are going to ask me that question right now"
Oden is junk. Anyone is better than junk. Matt Bonner is better than Oden.
Agreed.
Right now, it's Bynum and Oden's not even close.
Bynum is already possibly the biggest defenseive presence in the West at the Center position.
On offense, Bynum's averaging 11 points on only 8 shots. Put him on a team where he's getting 20 shots a night and he'll average 25+ points.
But at the same time, Bynum's been in the NBA for 3 years now, give Oden a few years and he'll give Bynum a run for his money.
I wouldn't say not even close.
Yeah, and he has also been working with the best scoring big man ever(Bynum). Oden will develop a touch, i'm not sure about a mid range game though.
That baby hook will come, blah, blah...It's his first actual year playing, some people need to get off his nuts. It's not like he has been playing for several years now.
It should be noted that in their first meeting neither of them stood out in direct compe ion and being clearly better. Greg isn't playing with Kobe either.
Just because someone is the biggest defensive presence doesn't mean they are the best defensive presence. Picture you say? Sure.
haha Oden gets no respect. Bill Bradly Sacremento Bee picks Hawes over Oden
Leading Off: Hawes or Oden? It's closer than you think
By Bill Bradley
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Published: Wednesday, Nov. 26, 2008 | Page 1C
Bee Sports Editor/Opinion
After spending two of the past five nights watching the top centers of the 2007 NBA draft, I ask you to ponder this: Who would you pick now, Spencer Hawes or Greg Oden?
I would take Hawes.
You say I'm crazy? Stay with me. As much hoopla as there was over Oden as the No. 1 overall pick – and yes, he was injured all of last season – he seems to be a one-dimensional player. He is great inside, rebounding and blocking shots. Yet he doesn't have the offensive impact like the big men to whom he was compared, Shaquille O'Neal and Karl Malone.
Hawes isn't in that league, either. But what makes him attractive is his other dimensions: passing and outside shooting. Plus, Hawes has bulked up enough to compete with the wide bodies and he isn't afraid to play inside this season.
In two games against each other, Oden had a combined 10 points (4-of-9 shooting) and 14 rebounds in 38 minutes. Hawes had 30 points (12 of 26) and eight rebounds in 72 minutes.
You get what you get with Oden. It appears the best is to come for Hawes.
http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/1428878.html
It's not really fair to compare them right now. I don't think either guy has reached his full potential. Talk to me about comparisons in a few years, not now.
I'm not saying BIG as in Shawn Bradley big, that would be Yao.Just because someone is the biggest defensive presence doesn't mean they are the best defensive presence. Picture you say? Sure.
I'm saying "Oh , that Bynum kid is in there, I think I'll pull up for a jumpshot."
Bynum vs Oden part 1 sucked, I'll have to agree with that. Odne's being behind is pretty much due to the fact he has no moves outside of dunking, yet. While Bynum's been learning footwork from Kareem for years now.
I think Hawes is pretty bad-ass. Right now, I also think he's better than Oden but he doesn't have Oden's talent ceiling so he'll get passed up.
I won't see which one is better, but it actually is close, and actually favors Oden.
Bynum's per 36 minutes stats: 14.5 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 3.0 bpg, .527 FG
Oden's per 36 minutes stats: 15.3 ppg, 12.5 rpg, 3.1 bpg, .510 FG
Oden still has yet to play consistent starter minutes, but his production is right where Bynum's is and arguably better. The knock is he's injury prone. Bynum is better offensively, but it's not clear at all that Bynum is definitely the better player even right now.
What do you mean by big then? Bradley is big, Yao is big and so is Bynum. So is Oden, etc....Alot of players pull up for jumpers because of them, and some pick around and drive with them all, where is the difference. Please explain.
Where was that footwork in game 1? I've been seeing pretty basic stuff from him. Drop steps etc. Nothing out the the ordinary, just a better touch.
bynum is better than oden right now thats is a no brainer.. give it some time and i believe both these players will have great careers ahead of them(as long as they stay healthy) bynum can only get better the same goes for oden.. rigth now Pryzbilla is easily better than oden.
What are you basing that off of?
Barclay bank says a lot of crap
the last few games that pryz and oden have played pryz has had double double(except for the phoenix game he was scoreless) usually averaging about 10 points and 10 rebounds if im correct... at this point in time he doing a little better but not much lol.... watching a game though you can easily see that pryzbilla is better though oden still kind of rough around the edges, i think after the all star break we may start to see some of the oden people were hyping about
odens season so far
PPG 8.3 RPG 6.80 APG 0.9 EFF + 11.89 pryzbilla so far(couple points less)
PPG 6.5 RPG 8.30 APG 0.5 EFF + 15.07
You know guys like Hakeem only averaged more than 25 PPG twice.
Duncan only once
Garnett never
Patrik Ewing once
Seriously dude, that statement you just made put you on a Spursdynasty plateau - i really dont know if your being serious.
From the looks of things statistic wise, I wouldn't say either is better. But it should be noted that joel gets five more minutes a game.
It's an impressive sounding number. Ok, let's go with 20+
I'm also the guy that said he might be better than DROB
Bynum at the beginning of the season sucked, however, he's really turning it on now since he said he's making it a point to be aggressive. He was only at 8 PPG like 3 games ago.
Oden on the hand appears to be coming back down to earth.
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