Barkley says Bynum better than Oden

[Allanon]

What do you mean by big then? Bradley is big, Yao is big and so is Bynum. So is Oden, etc....Alot of players pull up for jumpers because of them, and some pick around and drive with them all, where is the difference. Please explain.

I mean he's the best defending Center in the West. I think defensively, only DHo is better than Bynum at that spot.

Where was that footwork in game 1? I've been seeing pretty basic stuff from him. Drop steps etc. Nothing out the the ordinary, just a better touch.

Game 1 sucked, he sucked (relative to expectations) the first couple of games. But if you watch him now, he's putting his moves on display.

He's had a couple of sweet post spins the last couple of games. He's spinning off his man to catch lobs. He wouldn't dunk the first 7 games, now he's trying to stuff everything. If you check out the Laker forums, there's a party on how good Bynum is looking now compared to the start of the season.

[DrHouse]

A lot of Bynum haters will be shutting their mouths by the end of the season.

Yes, Bynum has looked unimpressive to start the season. He is picking his game up though from week to week and already looks markedly better in all aspects.

[z0sa]

I'll never stop talking about LA ... doesn't mean I don't think they can ball.

And if Bynum was on my team and had been learning from kareem for 3-4 years, I'd have expected much, much more by now. Oden is not that far behind and he's had no such mentor.

[mystargtr34]

It's an impressive sounding number. Ok, let's go with 20+

I'm also the guy that said he might be better than DROB

Well thats a stretch, i could say George Hill might be better than Kevin Johnson. The likeliness of that happening is about the same as Bynum being better than D-Rob, probly 2%.

D-Rob was the same size yet he could run faster, jump higher as well as being more agile. Bynum is still only 21 but D-Rob is just light years ahead in every facet of the game even in his rookie season that i dont see that comparison at all.

I see more Robert Parish

[mystargtr34]

A lot of Bynum haters will be shutting their mouths by the end of the season.

Yes, Bynum has looked unimpressive to start the season. He is picking his game up though from week to week and already looks markedly better in all aspects.

Not hating at all, in fact ive defended him more than most on this board. Its just that the odds of him averaging 25 PPG, or be as good as D-Rob - i can tell you right now are about 2%. Forgive me for going with the 98%

[Spur-Addict]

I mean he's the best defending Center in the West. I think defensively, only DHo is better than Bynum at that spot.


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If we're going on Defense only I wouldn't say he's flat out better than Diop or Camby.

[sook]

Allanon your one of the best posters on ST but comeon...stop drinkin Bynum's koolaid

[dallaskd]

Agreed.

Right now, it's Bynum and Oden's not even close.

Bynum is already possibly the biggest defenseive presence in the West at the Center position.

On offense, Bynum's averaging 11 points on only 8 shots. Put him on a team where he's getting 20 shots a night and he'll average 25+ points.

But at the same time, Bynum's been in the NBA for 3 years now, give Oden a few years and he'll give Bynum a run for his money.

In the one game I have seen Bynum this year he got his ass beat up by Dampier and looked scared less when he shot the ball. But Dampier is having a pretty good year...

[Allanon]

Yes, yes guys, I'm drinking the Bynum Kool-Aid. I agree he hasn't done . But we're comparing him to Oden who hasn't done much either.

DRob is the lofty goal for Bynum, I think he can do it but he can also be the next Kandi-Man.

As for Dampier, Bynum so far does poorly trying to score against tough Centers. Guys like Shaq and Dampier have made him ineffective. However, I attribute that to his youngness. I'd like to see him going up against tough Centers for the rest of the year to get him ready for the Playoffs. Unfortunately for his learning curve, there are very few tough and big Centers in the NBA.

The most important thing is that fire is back in his eyes. He was bored/nonchalant/en led to begin the season. Now he's starting to put the effort out to make the All-Star team.

He's got a ways to go but he's looking pretty good as of today.

[z0sa]

Sorry Allanon, but Bynum won't be a third the player DRob was. At any stage of his career. They don't even have similar skillset so why compare them?

[Allanon]

Sorry Allanon, but Bynum won't be a third the player DRob was. At any stage of his career. They don't even have similar skillset so why compare them?

They are somewhat similar (moreso than any other Center I could think of and actually saw them play). I've heard that Robert Parish was a good defensive Center but have never really seen him play.

I wanted a Big man who was not best of the best but pretty damn good. Also one that I've seen play and one the Spur fans could relate to.

DRob was the closest.

[A Bomb]

In the one game I have seen Bynum this year he got his ass beat up by Dampier and looked scared less when he shot the ball. But Dampier is having a pretty good year...

So you gonna base Bynum's potential from that one game u've seen against Dampier? Go watch all of his games from last year and see the progressions he has made from game to game and than you 'll see how baseless your assumption is. If he didn't have the season ending injury we would be having a debate on who is better between dh and bynum.

[MrChug]

Oden's a HOF'er waiting to happen. Bynum isn't better than Oden, he's PLAYING BETTER than Oden (right now).

It's only 15 fkn games into Oden's career and Bynum's FOURTH SEASON, give it a rest.

[Purple & Gold]

@ all the Bynum haters. He's already a defensive force out there in the paint, he has a very nice touch around the basket, is already a great rebounder, and is a pretty damn good passer already. It might look like he's getting his sea legs out there right now, but that's because he is. He's a huge kid that played limited basketball as a youth and is coming back from an injury that kept him off the basketball court for about 9 months, which is why he can sometimes look awkward. Once he gets his legs back under him the rest of the League is gonna start crying again. I predict he'll be ready to rock and roll by the time the playoffs come around. Him and Pau will be a dominant force down low. Add Odom as the first big coming off the bench and @ the rest of the League.

[Purple & Gold]

Oden's a HOF'er waiting to happen. Bynum isn't better than Oden, he's PLAYING BETTER than Oden (right now).

It's only 15 fkn games into Oden's career and Bynum's FOURTH SEASON, give it a rest.

Bynum is only 3 months older than Oden

[MrChug]

Bynum is only 3 months older than Oden

Are all Lakerfans as fkn dumb as you? Nope, Allanon makes good sense sometimes. Not even CLOSE to what I said

Read the post before you dig yourself in a hole you can't get out of.

[Purple & Gold]

Are all Lakerfans as fkn dumb as you? Nope, Allanon makes good sense sometimes. Not even CLOSE to what I said

Read the post before you dig yourself in a hole you can't get out of.

You tried to insinuate that Bynum should be 4 years better or more seasoned or whatever you wanna call it then Oden and used it to gauge them as players and how they will perform in the future. Facts are Bynum is only 3 months older then Oden. Spin it however you want MrsChug

[Spur-Addict]

@ all the Bynum haters. .

I'm just stating my opinion, if you take that as hate then so be it. It's funny, I think that Laker fans are fans sometimes simply because they think there is envy from others. Rather comedic.

[Purple & Gold]

I'm just stating my opinion, if you take that as hate then so be it. It's funny, I think that Laker fans are fans sometimes simply because they think there is envy from others. Rather comedic.

WTF are you talking about?? Laker fans could give a if you are envious or not. World doesn't revolve around you and your opinions.

People labeling any player a bust at 21 is hating. Not saying that's what you were doing, but many of your brethren spurs fans have been saying that for awhile now. Rather comedic that you can't notice it.

[Spur-Addict]

WTF are you talking about?? Laker fans could give a if you are envious or not. World doesn't revolve around you and your opinions.

People labeling any player a bust at 21 is hating. Not saying that's what you were doing, but many of your brethren spurs fans have been saying that for awhile now. Rather comedic that you can't notice it.

It's glad to know you speak for all Laker fans, it's cool that you are all a uniform body. That's impressive.

I think the label of bust must be understood in terms of the standards he is being compared to by Laker fans, that's what THEY probably mean. It's sort of unreal expectations based on current performance. David Robinson?

Get ing real. That's what I notice.

[Allanon]

David Robinson?

Get ing real. That's what I notice.

DRob didn't join the NBA until 24, and he hit the ground running when he did come.

Bynum has 3 years still to mature into a 20 point/15 rebound/4 blocks guy.

Time will tell.

[tlongII]

Bynum's going to be very good. Bynum, Howard, and Oden will be the "gold standard" for centers in the NBA for the next 15 years.

[Allanon]

Bynum's going to be very good. Bynum, Howard, and Oden will be the "gold standard" for centers in the NBA for the next 15 years.

I agree...maybe not 15 years but at least 10.

[Spur-Addict]

DRob didn't join the NBA until 24, and he hit the ground running when he did come.

Bynum has 3 years still to mature into a 20 point/15 rebound/4 blocks guy.

Time will tell.

Whatever, were in the now. They don't even play similar anyways. Stop making excuses.

[Allanon]

Whatever, were in the now. They don't even play similar anyways. Stop making excuses.

Excuses? I think he's doing a great job right now. I'd be happy with 15/10 from him this year.

I also think he's going to make the All Star team THIS year as a coach's vote.

I didn't say he was better than DRob right now, I said by the time it's all said and done he could be better.

Give it some time.