WTF is 47 year-old woman doing creating fake profiles on MySpace anyway....

[Purple & Gold]

It's still attempted murder. and besides the gun was in "your" hands, This story is different the belt to hang the girl was in "her" hands ,there is slight a difference.

Exactly but attempted murder is very different then murder. The sentences are not even the same, yet the person did exactly the same thing. And now your changing it, you asked what if she survived should it be different and the outcome shouldn't matter. The outcome does matter legally.

[Purple & Gold]

So by your way of thinking one has to assume what a person was thinking?

If that is the case then maybe Lee Harvey Olswald was innocent. Maybe in his mind he was doing a good thing for Jesus. Maybe he was just cleaning his rifle when it went off.

That logic can go both ways.

Another thing if a person is that fragile and mentally unstable why would you allow them a MySpace page? And who is to say someone else who is mentally ill goes around telling everyone on MySpace they are a loser should the mentally ill person go to jail also if there are mass suicides? or do the rules all of a sudden change because of their condition?

Well that's what juries are for. They judge on that everyday. The difference between pre-meditated and not pre-meditated holds very different consequences. It is something that is taking into account when handing out sentences.

Well yes mentally ill people do go to jail if they survive any of the mass suicides or killings they orchestrate (Jamestown, Heavens Gate, Charles Manson, etc.). I assume you mean more of in an indirect manner. Well every case is different and that's why every jury is different. You can't paint a broad brush over everything. Every case has it's own facts. I do not believe this was as indirect as a person going around on myspace and telling everybody they are losers. Being that she's an adult and knew intimate secrets about her changes things for me.

[mouse]

Ok then what if she lives but is in a wheel chair all her life? What if she tried to hang herself and she falls through the floor and kills a baby in the room below her?

What if she tried to kill herself and the bullet misses her head and kills a a peeping tom in her window?

Look we can go round and round here, You're presuming there are other sick 47 years olds out there, ready to kill. Well as mouse, I must assume there isn't. We can play these games all night Purple & Gold, but I don't have the luxury of your presumptions.

Purple & Gold, we have rules that are not open to interpretation, personal intuition, gut feelings, hairs on the back of your neck, little devils or angels sitting on your shoulder. We're all very well aware of what our laws are and what those laws mean. They come down from our government. They contain no ambiguity.

Purple & Gold I've made a point. I'm Captain of this topic. NOW SHUT THE UP!

[johnsmith]

I haven't read this thread, but how is the le of this thread any worse then a burntout 40 something year old ex-comedian making dozens of screen names on multiple forums any different then a 47 year old making fake profiles on myspace?

[Purple & Gold]

Ok then what if she lives but is in a wheel chair all her life? What if she tried to hang herself and she falls through the floor and kills a baby in the room below her?

What if she tried to kill herself and the bullet misses her head and kills a a peeping tom in her window?

Look we can go round and round here, You're presuming there are other sick 47 years olds out there, ready to kill. Well as mouse, I must assume there isn't. We can play these games all night Purple & Gold, but I don't have the luxury of your presumptions.

Purple & Gold, we have rules that are not open to interpretation, personal intuition, gut feelings, hairs on the back of your neck, little devils or angels sitting on your shoulder. We're all very well aware of what our laws are and what those laws mean. They come down from our government. They contain no ambiguity.

Purple & Gold I've made a point. I'm Captain of this topic. NOW SHUT THE UP!

Fact is you have nothing but to keep bringing up hypothetical situations, and they are more irrelevant than not. I've already made my point you don't agree fine, could really care less. There's a jury that decides if she's guilty or not and a judge that hands out the sentence. You'd rather say a 13 year old is responsible for her own actions, I disagree and say the adult is more responsible. If we were in the jury I'm sure we'd be going back and forth on this.

And Gene Hackman got his ass handed to him in that movie

[mouse]

I haven't read this thread, but how is the le of this thread any worse then a burntout 40 something year old ex-comedian making dozens of screen names on multiple forums any different then a 47 year old making fake profiles on myspace?

Because what I do doesn't kill people. Besides I am old, burnt out, and have no life, that is why I am always here, what's your excuse?

[mouse]

Fact is you have nothing but to keep bringing up hypothetical situations, and they are more irrelevant than not. I've already made my point you don't agree fine, could really care less. There's a jury that decides if she's guilty or not and a judge that hands out the sentence. You'd rather say a 13 year old is responsible for her own actions, I disagree and say the adult is more responsible. If we were in the jury I'm sure we'd be going back and forth on this.

So then according to you i can sit in my moms basement and tell millions of MySpace girls they are ugly and they need to all hang themselves and I will get millions of convictions?

Do me a favor and stick your finger in your ass now suck on it, and after you get sick, tell your doctor and your lawyer to come and press charges on me and lets see how far you get.

On a moral issue, yes your right, the lady was wrong. I never said she wasn't I just said if your going to make a law about what you can't say to people on the www then johnsmith and Tpark should be in court everyday.

And Gene Hackman got his ass handed to him in that movie

Was that before, or after he slapped that Negro's face?

[Purple & Gold]

So then according to you i can sit in my moms basement and tell millions of MySpace girls they are ugly and they need to all hang themselves and I will get millions of convictions?

Do me a favor and stick your finger in your ass now suck on it, and after you get sick, tell your doctor and your lawyer to come and press charges on me and lets see how far you get.

On a moral issue, yes your right, the lady was wrong. I never said she wasn't I just said if your going to make a law about what you can't say to people on the www then johnsmith and Tpark should be in court everyday.

Come on I read your posts before you're funnier than that. You're just reaching now.

We disagree which is why we have juries. And it's not what you can and can't say over the internet. It's an adult using personal information to harass a child. Not really that difficult to understand.

Was that before, or after he slapped that Negro's face?

After that scene you quoted it was all downhill for him.

[mouse]

It's an adult using personal information to harass a child. Not really that difficult to understand.

You make it sound like this person when to the playground and ed with a 8 year old. That Bi-polar had a MySpace page and was showing her camel toe for all to see where do you get child from?

After that scene you quoted it was all downhill for him.

That's true but unlike your black pat-na afterwords he was still able to walk into best buy and not have security follow him around.

[mouse]

I may have to take a short break my girlfriend is with her parents eating turkey and i hardly ever get time alone like this to wax my carrot so I will surf the web and see if maybe MySpace has anymore girls left that aren't dead already, brb.................

[johnsmith]

Because what I do doesn't kill people. Besides I am old, burnt out, and have no life, that is why I am always here, what's your excuse?

Excuse for what? I didn't imply that there was anything wrong with spending alot of time on internet forums. I was however implying that there is something wrong with manipulating said forums with multiple screen names (you know, sort of like fake profiles on myspace).

[The Final Countdown]

I now have new respect for johnsmith, the man is not afraid to put mouse and Kori in their place!

[Fabbs]

Karma is coming...

Family Shunned Over MySpace Hoax, Teen's Suicide
Friday, December 07, 2007

DARDENNE PRAIRIE, Mo. — Waterford Crystal Drive is one of those suburban streets that seem so new as to have no history at all. But the suicide of a teenage girl — and allegations she had been tormented by a neighbor over the Internet — have brought a reaction that is old, almost tribal, in its nature.

Residents on the middle-class subdivision have turned against the neighbor, Lori Drew, and her family, demanding the Drews move out. In interviews, they have warned darkly that someone might be tempted to "take matters into their own hands."

"It's like they used to do in the 1700s and 1800s. If you wronged a community, you were basically shunned. That's basically what happened to her," said Trevor Buckles, a 40-year-old who lives next door to the Drews.

Drew became an outcast after she admitted inventing "Josh Evans," a good-looking teenage boy who chatted online with 13-year-old Megan Meier. Megan received cruel messages from Josh that apparently drove her to hang herself in her closet in 2006.

This was in Dec of 2007.
Did the town do anything to Drew since?
How about after the spineless verdict?

[mouse]

johnsmith does have a point, and I should make another MySpace page.

[The Final Countdown]

Fact is Gene Hackman got his ass handed to him in that movie

[manufor3]

Its not even up for debate. I'd kill her. I wouldn't even think twice about it.