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    I agree that Tpark and Ghill make for an intimidating offense. Just like Dallas and Phoenix had a "small backcourt" duo that could be offensively a handful, we could have the same. But there is the potential for defensive liabilities; that only works if Ghill's freakish reach allows him to guard the 2 spot at those times.

    I admit I am excited by the offensive potential we see, but it seems like an unbalanced team is not optimal, and we are looking VERY unbalanced.

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    We aren't looking VERY unbalanced.

    And it's November.

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    Oh and rebounding must be overrated because the Mavs lead the league

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    I think Thomas will play better as the season goes on. He is a veteran who has been around and knows how to pace himself. Plus I think he is still recovering from an injury. Thomas is good to have for teams that have 2 bigs that can score. With all the offense the Spurs have in the backcourt, plus Duncan, they don't need the 5 to score a lot.

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    I say that we trade BOTH of them for a decent center, then turn around and move that center to shore up the back-up PG and find a wing who can be our 4th scoring option.

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    I would trade TP for a good center and a PG. It could be better for Hill and TP couldn't fit as well with the basketball we are playing now.At least I don't miss TP a lot in the last games and we are 7-2 without him and Manu did not play in the 2 lost games.

    We have 4-5 good players in the backcourt.With Tony's return Pop can't give minutes for all.We don't have a good center and we have an old small forward....So we need to trade someone.
    We can trade bad players for bad players or we can trade one of Manu-TP to get a good C and a good SF or PG.
    And i think we could get better players for TP because he is younger.IMO Manu is better than the players you can get for him

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    I would trade TP for a good center and a PG. It could be better for Hill and TP couldn't fit as well with the basketball we are playing now.At least I don't miss TP a lot in the last games and we are 7-2 without him and Manu did not play in the 2 lost games.

    We have 4-5 good players in the backcourt.With Tony's return Pop can't give minutes for all.We don't have a good center and we have an old small forward....So we need to trade someone.
    We can trade bad players for bad players or we can trade one of Manu-TP to get a good C and a good SF or PG.
    And i think we could get better players for TP because he is younger.IMO Manu is better than the players you can get for him
    We know. We read your last 20 posts repeating the same thing. You want to trade TP. It doesn't matter how, when, why or for what reason. We get it.

    TP couldn't fit as well with the basketball we are playing now.
    It's the same basketball the Spurs have been playing for years. The system didn't change.

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    I would trade TP for a good center and a PG. It could be better for Hill and TP couldn't fit as well with the basketball we are playing now.At least I don't miss TP a lot in the last games and we are 7-2 without him and Manu did not play in the 2 lost games.

    We have 4-5 good players in the backcourt.With Tony's return Pop can't give minutes for all.We don't have a good center and we have an old small forward....So we need to trade someone.
    We can trade bad players for bad players or we can trade one of Manu-TP to get a good C and a good SF or PG.
    And i think we could get better players for TP because he is younger.IMO Manu is better than the players you can get for him
    Same , different thread.

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    im not missin tp at all, enjoyin the ball movement, the development of hill

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    They should sent TP to Bahamas for a week or seven.

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    I actually cant wait for TP to get back to get this team to full potential right away. Theres so many combinations available to the coaching stuff its almost unfair.

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    Yes, I am a Lakers fan.

    I just don't think the Spurs can win a Playoff series against the larger Western teams without help for Tim. Portland, Dallas, Houston, and Suns will be particularly hard.

    Tony and Manu coming back will really improve the Spurs but neither of them can guard a Shaq/Amare/Diaw, Yao/Scola/Landry or Dampier/Dirk/Diop, Oden/Aldridge/Pryz/Frye.
    Something we already know. And something we will work on before the deadline is over. We just hope they dont bring in another big who will sit on the bench during PO time. If we go out there with Tim and Fab or Tim and Kurt. Even thou our guards will fight to the end. We wont make enough stops in the paint.

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    The Spurs won with combinations of Nazr/Rasho/Oberto at center and no big SF.

    Oberto/Thomas/Mahinmi are probably the same thing.




    2005 Spurs, 2007 Spurs

    ... if you call Bowen/Manu/Tony a 3-guard unit. Bowen is about 6'6.
    The Lakers are the team to beat now and much more improved. They are bigger than they were when the spurs won last time.

    So the dynamics of what is necessary to win now has changed and the formula for success has changed. A weak front court will not get it done anymore.

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    The Lakers are the team to beat now and much more improved. They are bigger than they were when the spurs won last time.

    So the dynamics of what is necessary to win now has changed and the formula for success has changed. A weak front court will not get it done anymore.
    did not boston beat the lakers in finals and boston is the team to beat tell the are no longer champs

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    that would be a stupid move. You don't trade any of the big 3 guys unless they wanna go.That's your team's foundation and they've been playing together for many years.
    why would you throw away 5 years of work that gave you 3 championships????
    it's like killing the golden eggs chicken.

    Thanks!

    It's amazing to me that some spoiled Spurs fans want to trade Manu??????


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    did not boston beat the lakers in finals and boston is the team to beat tell the are no longer champs
    The spurs will have to get past the Lakers first just to make it to the finals so they are the team to beat.

    If the spurs get out of the west and to the championship they will win it.

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    I say that we trade BOTH of them for a decent center, then turn around and move that center to shore up the back-up PG and find a wing who can be our 4th scoring option.


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    I think Thomas will play better as the season goes on. He is a veteran who has been around and knows how to pace himself. Plus I think he is still recovering from an injury. Thomas is good to have for teams that have 2 bigs that can score. With all the offense the Spurs have in the backcourt, plus Duncan, they don't need the 5 to score a lot.
    +1 besides we have with TP an unexpected, for a guy of his size, contribution, he is making in the rim more points than a lot of centers.

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    I seriousy doubt you have the basketball a en that Coach Pop has, so instead of thinking too hard about it, just kick back and enjoy the games.
    LOL sometimes people just put it in words that i wouldnt use. A WHOLE lot of folks need to kick back and enjoy the games rather than over analyzing everything.

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    Your natural trade partner the Houston Rockets. We have too many good forwards. You guys have too many guards. Hmmmm

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    we just got 2 new shiny pieces with borderline all star quality and you're already proposing to trade them? gaddammit!
    Exactly!! It took us 5 yrs to find a backup PG!! Not to mention he can play the 2 also. Mason can play the 1 thru 3. Last year it was: we are too old and have no slashers just jumpshooters. So we drafted a youngster and signed a blue collar utility guard and what was the response mostly?....George Hill who? Roger Staubach Jr? Whos that? POP SUCKS! The FO cant draft!! blah blah blah. Now the new season starts and everyone sees, HEY!! These guys are great. CIA Pop does it again (2 seconds later) Lets trade one of them!! Yea!! Great idea!!

    Pop probably is all giddy on the inside thinkin of the different ways to unleash the weapons we have in the backcourt (Gino, Parker, Hill, & Mason). The way our roster is now we can match up w/ any teams perimeter players and if they want to go small we got that covered too.

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    And I love how some fans are making out like the Front Office is brilliant b/c of Mason and Ghill; better lucky than smart sometimes.
    Are u serious!? Give credit where its due man. LOL U act like Pop and them put on a blindfold and threw darts @ the draft board. Pop IS brilliant in my estimation. Is he human? yes. Does he make mistakes? yes. But they did their homework here and came out golden

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    Trade Manu--Quasimodo was smarter than that. Manu is actually the most unique player in the league. He is also younger than 2 of the three Boston stars and about the same age as the other. Actually, Mason makes Finley expendable and in two years Hill will be worth twice what he is now. Get real!

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    hmm we can always trade you a Scola for a Manu?

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    hmm we can always trade you a Scola for a Manu?
    we gave you scola for nothing, we want him back for nothing too.

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