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    Our beloved Mavs played well for stretches in the game, but ultimately lost to the red hot Lakers 114-107.

    Terry had a great game, as did Kidd. While Dirk's 19/11 statline is "decent", I felt he didnt' really imprint the game. He didn't shoot horribly like last time, but he seemed invisible during alot of stretches. I also thought he took 2 bad shots during the Lakers 17-0 run.

    I'm not terribly disappointed. It's the same old against the Lakers where we blow a double digit 2nd half lead, but the benches play was pretty encouraging.

    I thought OVERALL, the Mavs played a good game. This game is better than some of the wins we had this year. The Lakers are just too good right now.

    But I ponder, does this team miss JHO or is his production offset by the offense flowing better w/o him due to his ballstopping ways?

    I think I miss JHo's 20/8 though, however "empty" it may seem at times.

    AS mentioned by Findog in the other thread, the run coincided with Wright picking up his 4th foul, and George/Ariza coming in at the same time. I think based on youth/athleticism alone, Green deserves those minutes more than George. I think Carlisle will learn that, and has just been experimenting to see whether George is good for this team or not.

    The perimeter shooting was solid tonight.

    I just hope we don't let down against Sac-town tommorow. the 7 game homestand we will learn a lot about ourselves.

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    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
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    Good game to the Mavs, it's always an entertaining game when Mavs play the Lakers.

    Mavs shouldn't think too much of this loss, they competed well in Staples against a pretty good Laker team.

    Mavs are playing MUCH better now than earlier in the season.

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    Typical Mavs game against a good team. Hang tough for about 3 quarters, then piss it away and never come back. This team is what it is, and it's not going to change.

    And this team is going to get worse when J-Ho gets back. There were times tonight where I've never seen the offense flow so smoothly, and he's going to all that up.

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    Saying "good team" gives too little credit to the Lakers. This was a GREAT team and possibly the best in the NBA.

    Saying "typical Mavs game" implies the Lakers don't do this to a lot of other opponents. Like I said, they did the exact same thing v the Spurs in the playoffs last season, and the other night where tied w/ the Nets with 18 minutes to go and lost by 27.

    I know "moral victories" don't exist, but can't feel terribly about how the Mavs played this game. Lakers have been blowing out a lot of people, Mavs hung tough.

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    Saying "typical Mavs game" implies the Lakers don't do this to a lot of other opponents.
    It doesn't imply that one bit. It expresses that the Mavs do this against good teams. They hang with them for 3 quarters and fade away. I don't give a what the Lakers do to other opponents, I care about what the Mavs are doing.

    They had an 11 point lead and pissed it away in a nanosecond. Not even the Lakers are good enough to simply dominate a team like that, the Mavs did that to themselves with stupid mistakes and ty defense. Again, typical Mavs.

    Lakers have been blowing out a lot of people, Mavs hung tough.
    Well maybe David Stern can craft us a nice "hung tough!" trophy.

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    It doesn't imply that one bit. It expresses that the Mavs do this against good teams. They hang with them for 3 quarters and fade away. I don't give a what the Lakers do to other opponents, I care about what the Mavs are doing.

    They had an 11 point lead and pissed it away in a nanosecond. Again, typical Mavs.



    Well maybe David Stern can craft us a nice "hung tough!" trophy.

    If in your opinion this is due to the insertion of Devean George, then why should you be terribly upset? I expect Carlisle will eventually realize George doesn't belong on the court in favor of Green.

    You give the Mavs little credit for their wins, and overreact to their losses.

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    You give the Mavs little credit for their wins, and overreact to their losses.
    I'd say you overreact to their wins (all against subpar opponents), and give them far too much leeway when they lose.

    If we're gonna play the Grizzlies and T-Wolves and Bobcats in the playoffs, I'd love how the Mavs are playing.

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    I don't overreact to their wins or losses.

    The Mavs showed some good stuff tonight against the best team in the West, I feel better about this loss than the wins against the Grizzlies, Pacers, and Knicks.

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    I don't overreact to their wins or losses.
    You threw out the "moral victory" card awful quick. With a side of "we hung in there!"

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    Just a road loss nothing more. Pistons went in there and pounded them then lost to the Wolves bad at home.

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    The Mavs showed some good stuff tonight against the best team in the West
    and lost. Do they win or lose against the elite teams? They ALWAYS lose.

    I'm sick of hearing about how good these other teams are. If they Mavs are a good team, they'll be getting a few of these wins.

    Don't tell me about the pain, just show me the baby. I don't wanna hear about how hard it is and how tough they fight, I wanna see a win.

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    I just like to look at the quality of basketball rather than wins and losses. I thought the qualities of the Mavs basketball was decent tonight, the Lakers frontline is just too big and Kobe was Kobe and it was in an arena we've done historically bad in.

    It's a little discouraging, because it's obvious the Lakers are a better team than us, but I don't think the gap is AS big as many would think.

    Maybe it's fool's gold though, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the Mavs let down in Sac-town tommorow.

    I'll have developed a better opinion of this team after the 7 game homestand. Anything less than 6-1 or 7-0 during that will be extremely disappointing.

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    Just a road loss nothing more. Pistons went in there and pounded them then lost to the Wolves bad at home.
    Pistons also have a ring.

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    and lost. Do they win or lose against the elite teams? They ALWAYS lose.

    I'm sick of hearing about how good these other teams are. If they Mavs are a good team, they'll be getting a few of these wins.

    Don't tell me about the pain, just show me the baby. I don't wanna hear about how hard it is and how tough they fight, I wanna see a win.



    Define "elite". The only truly elite teams IMO right now are the Cavs/Lakers/Celtics. So yes your statement is true as we are 0-3 against these teams, but there's plenty more basketball to be played.

    We have had some good wins against the Spurs/Rockets this year. Wouldn't consider them elite since Manu/Yao were out, but they were solid wins IMO.

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    Define "elite". The only truly elite teams IMO right now are the Cavs/Lakers/Celtics. So yes your statement is true as we are 0-3 against these teams, but there's plenty more basketball to be played.

    We have had some good wins against the Spurs/Rockets this year. Wouldn't consider them elite since Manu/Yao were out, but they were solid wins IMO.
    A fully healthy Rockets team is also elite. Which puts us at 0-4. And the Spurs were so awful that game isn't a "good" win, it's just a win that should be expected. The next game against the Spurs will tell a better story.

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    We beat the Spurs w/o Tony and Manu, and the Rox w/o Yao.

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    A fully healthy Rockets team is also elite. Which puts us at 0-4.


    That'll be the day.

    But seriously, we suck.

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    The Mavs beat the teams their supposed to beat and lose to the teams their supposed to lose too....why should we be upset with them

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    Tony played when we beat the Spurs.

    ON a side note, not that I think the refs cost us the game tonight, but 8 personal fouls on the Lakers, I think that's kinda lame. even if we were a little complacent with the 3-PT shooting tonight.

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    They also the bed against Denver and Orlando. Maybe not elite, but both are very good.

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    I'm not gonna judge this team based on close losses in which Stackhouse, who seemingly won't see another minute this year, played.

    I hope George quickly joins Stack.

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    I'm not gonna judge this team based on close losses in which Stackhouse, who seemingly won't see another minute this year, played.

    I hope George quickly joins Stack.
    So what happens when George never sees the light of day and the Mavs keep losing against good teams? You're quickly running out of scapegoats.

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    Green deserves those minutes more than George. I think Carlisle will learn that
    Ask one of the Pistons fans to explain the meaning of the term "Binary Man" sometime.

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    Who did I use as a scapegoat? George didn't cost this game by HIMSELF, but he sure as didn't help and it's just a TAD curious that the 17-0 run coincided with his insertion. I'm not making excuses for the loss, the Mavs just lost to a better team and a team they were supposed to lose to. We won't become better than the Lakers barring some sort of trade, and even then it's not likely... but why should I be terribly upset about that?

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