Thoughts on our beloved Mavs tonight

[sribb43]

Blame the loss on Avery

[Brickhouse]

I wonder..what's the point of this team? Floating around in mediocrity..Cuban must love it.
I can already see the rest of the season barrring any changes...

Mavs dominate the average teams, maybe win a few against better than average teams. The media s itself about the team getting it together, getting the system, blahblahblah.

Lose against the elite, in close games. Cue all the moral victory talk.

Maybe sneak into the playoffs and get promptly eliminated by a higher seed all the while still spouting lines of how "everyone is underestimating us" "we're a darkhorse" "we love our team" "JHo isn't a pot-smoking mental midget and we won't trade him for anyone" "Devean George has 3 rings. So we know he can play. Let's sign him again"
yadda yadda

[Findog]

I wonder..what's the point of this team? Floating around in mediocrity..Cuban must love it.
I can already see the rest of the season barrring any changes...

Mavs dominate the average teams, maybe win a few against better than average teams. The media s itself about the team getting it together, getting the system, blahblahblah.

Lose against the elite, in close games. Cue all the moral victory talk.

Maybe sneak into the playoffs and get promptly eliminated by a higher seed all the while still spouting lines of how "everyone is underestimating us" "we're a darkhorse" "we love our team" "JHo isn't a pot-smoking mental midget and we won't trade him for anyone" "Devean George has 3 rings. So we know he can play. Let's sign him again"
yadda yadda

This is a great first post. I'm not being sarcastic, I like your take. +1

[Findog]

Oh man, how would you like a starting backcourt of Quis and Devin?

[sribb43]

http://www.82games.com/0809/QTR4S11.HTM

Checkout where our superstar ranks in 4th quarter scoring this season....its laughable

[Brickhouse]

This is a great first post. I'm not being sarcastic, I like your take. +1

Thanks

Oh man, how would you like a starting backcourt of Quis and Devin?

I'm glad we had the services of Austin Croshere cuz Quis wasn't a bible loving suckup to Avery.

[sribb43]

Thanks



I'm glad we had the services of Austin Croshere cuz Quis wasn't a bible loving suckup to Avery.

Don;t forget about Anthony "Beetlejuice" Johnson who was dumped after 2 months into the season for a 2nd rounder

[Ghazi]

^ yeah that's been disturbing. especially since if I'm not mistaken Dirk was T5 in the league last year in 4th quarter scoring.

Brickhouse even though you make some solid points I don't get what you mean by "what's the point of this team?". The point of the team from a fan standpoint is to watch them, cheer for them, go their games, buy their merchandise, etc etc, even if it'l likely end in heartbreak. If that vexes anyone too much, then they should root for another team.

I shall follow the Mavs even if to the gates of though!

[Brickhouse]

^ yeah that's been disturbing. especially since if I'm not mistaken Dirk was T5 in the league last year in 4th quarter scoring.

Brickhouse even though you make some solid points I don't get what you mean by "what's the point of this team?". The point of the team from a fan standpoint is to watch them, cheer for them, go their games, buy their merchandise, etc etc, even if it'l likely end in heartbreak. If that vexes anyone too much, then they should root for another team.

I shall follow the Mavs even if to the gates of though!

Dirk's 4th quarter scoring should go up once he gets his head out of his ass.

And wasn't it Cuban himself who said "insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"

[Ghazi]

Ugh! Frickin cynical Mavs fans!

It seems like the cynicism isn't due to the loss tonight, but rather due to past FO blunders, the fluky 2006 Finals we should've and deserved to win (just an opinion ), the heartbreak of the first round loss to the W's, etc etc.

s in the past. Just gotta focus on the now. I see no reason to be overly cynical about how the Mavs played tonight, in a game many of us expected to lose regardless.

But everytime the Mavs lose, the cynicism built up from past frustrations resurfaces.

As for Dirk getting his head out of his ass, he has. 29/11 over the past 5 games before tonight. I think the 4th quarter scoring will normalize as the year progresses.

[Ghazi]

btw Findog, what's your name on d-m.com? I think I remember earlier you said you hda a sn on there, bt I forgot it.

[Findog]

btw Findog, what's your name on d-m.com? I think I remember earlier you said you hda a sn on there, bt I forgot it.

I don't think I've ever posted there. I might've signed up for an account, but never active. I'm "MrFindog" on db.com

[Ghazi]

Join!

I think it's a good board.

Off to mourn the Mavs loss w/ binge eating

Let us hope our thoughts on the beloved Mavs tonight tommorow night will be better!

[DrHouse]

Cuban needs to let go of this team in its current incarnation.

If you are not competing for les you should be rebuilding. The Mavs have been stuck in limbo for the last two seasons. It's time to blow it all up and begin the rebuilding process. What the Mavs are doing right now just isn't fair to the fans IMHO.

[Shank]

Eh...nice game. Carlisle won't hesitate to pull Breath if he's not hacking it. As it is, he's still feeling out what he has on the roster. I think you put together his -16 with that unnecessary blow-up at the coaches and DB gets to sit a lot more than he wanted. What are you going to do, Breath? Ask to be traded? Knock yourself out.

Maybe he'll get traded back to the LA. It's obvious that was the only thing on that mother er's mind last night. Sickening to see him waving to the Lakers bench and media people while the clock ticked down in the 4th. And then he has to go over and hug them all after the buzzer, while the rest of his team heads to the locker room. I know he played there and they're all his friends. But he has their cellphone numbers. He knows how to reach them. Don't do that after the other team schooled your ass in a big run through the 3rd and 4th quarters.

got.

[Shank]

Oh, and I almost forgot-

(obligatory George Hill mention here)

[Darrin]

From what I saw, the Lakers mirrored the Mavs tempo and beat them at their own game by denying the passer a shot and as they scrambled, playing the passing lanes. They isolated on Kobe for 3 possession every five or so to keep the defense honest, and played a passing game at the rim to protect their shots.

Classic Lakers performance.

As for the Mavericks, they don't look good. Where's Dirk? He's finally scriveled into what they've been calling him for 10 years--soft and not a leader.

[BUMP]

after last night's performance. ive realized that to pull the Mavs out of this little bungle that they've been in for the last 7 years, two things need to happen:

1. Cuban needs to go
2. Dirk needs to go

they are the only two constants that have been with the Mavs for this long period of time. We've made trades gotten freee agents to come in and out of the door, nothing works. all the Mav fans here arent fooled, they know "hanging with the best team in the league" wont cut it. if this was a 30 win team last season, then yeah, id be happy with last nights performance, but we've doing this for years. we've been "moral victory" champs forever, like FinDog said, these losses dont sting anymore, i expect them. its gotten to the point where it is just comical

but after the dissapearance in the 4th yet again by our "superstar", i am officially off the Dirk bandwagon, he just needs to leave.

[monosylab1k]

The point of the team from a fan standpoint is to watch them, cheer for them, go their games, buy their merchandise, etc etc, even if it'l likely end in heartbreak.

That's what blind homers do. True fans cheer for the team through everything, but aren't afraid to voice their displeasure when it becomes obvious that the team is mediocre and the front office can't (or won't) change things.

[monosylab1k]

but after the dissapearance in the 4th yet again by our "superstar", i am officially off the Dirk bandwagon, he just needs to leave.

I'm at the point with Dirk where I just expect him to pass the ball and brick rushed 3's in the fourth quarter. Anything more than that is just a pleasant surprise. Our go-to "money" guy in the 4th quarter is Terry, and unfortunately he runs so hot and cold you'll never know if he'll score 15 points in the fourth or shoot 0 for 10.

[ElNono]

This Dallas team looks a lot like the Lakers team before the Gasol trade. They can overachieve in some games, and leave you asking yourself 'Why couldn't we play like this every game', and then stink up the joint with a lesser team and bring you all the way back to reality. I still remember the days, back a couple of years, when Mav fans knew going into any game in any arena that they could win the game. These days, it's sad to see stuff like "Well, we were supposed to lose that game anyways". Are you also expecting a quick playoff exit too?
The truth is that the Mavs do not have enough to win it all right now. And for a team that was so close to making it all the way, it's painfully obvious they need to move some pieces in order to get better. Both Stack and Breath can and should be moved at some point during the season. Obviously they would need to package somebody else, maybe JHo or Green. The problem is that the FO is in love with these guys, and that's a huge problem. Carslile is a good coach, but not a miracle worker.
I think the sooner Cuban gets his head out of his ass, the quicker this situation will improve.

[Ghazi]

BUMP that is some kneejerk bull .

[Ghazi]

That's what blind homers do. True fans cheer for the team through everything, but aren't afraid to voice their displeasure when it becomes obvious that the team is mediocre and the front office can't (or won't) change things.

Write a letter to Cuban then.

[BUMP]

These days, it's sad to see stuff like "Well, we were supposed to lose that game anyways". Are you also expecting a quick playoff exit too?

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, yeah.

[BUMP]

BUMP that is some kneejerk bull .

i'll admit maybe a little bit.

but we still need to rebuild. we are still an above average team, but i think we are the Eagles of the NBA. sure they got to the Superbowl and almost beat the Patriots but that was a while ago and nobody sees them as a superbowl contender anymore.

this is the same reason why coaches who win championships or have success eventually have to go. many teams have improved in the West while we have merely gotten older