Obama smokes!

[ChumpDumper]

You would probably be asked to put it out.

I'm all for smoking bans indoors. I believe I have the right not to stink because of someone else's bad habit.

[fyatuk]

I don't mind the requirements for a physical barrier between smoking and non-smoking sections, or even banning splitting restaurants into smoking and non-smoking. What I can't stand is requiring places to provide non-smoking sections.

There's a little place by my house that before SA ins uted their regulations several years ago clearly marked that they did not provide a non-smoking section. No matter when you went there, it was completely packed. Thanks to the defaulting to non-smoking, they lost a LOT of customers and it took years and several price increases to get back even close to where they were, and it's still not as busy as it was back then.

Businessmen/property owners should be able to choose whether they provide smoking or non-smoking sections, as long as their choice is clearly visible from outside before entering the establishment.

[MannyIsGod]

You would probably be asked to put it out.

I'm all for smoking bans indoors. I believe I have the right not to stink because of someone else's bad habit.

You shouldn't have the right to dictate the terms of an establishment to the owners. I think most smoking bans are bull and I've never smoked. I think its a disgusting habit, but I don't think I should tell an owner that people can't smoke at his bar. If people don't like the smoke, go somewhere else.

[exstatic]

I don't mind the requirements for a physical barrier between smoking and non-smoking sections, or even banning splitting restaurants into smoking and non-smoking. What I can't stand is requiring places to provide non-smoking sections.

There's a little place by my house that before SA ins uted their regulations several years ago clearly marked that they did not provide a non-smoking section. No matter when you went there, it was completely packed. Thanks to the defaulting to non-smoking, they lost a LOT of customers and it took years and several price increases to get back even close to where they were, and it's still not as busy as it was back then.

Businessmen/property owners should be able to choose whether they provide smoking or non-smoking sections, as long as their choice is clearly visible from outside before entering the establishment.

You shouldn't have the right to dictate the terms of an establishment to the owners. I think most smoking bans are bull and I've never smoked. I think its a disgusting habit, but I don't think I should tell an owner that people can't smoke at his bar. If people don't like the smoke, go somewhere else.

Right, and we need an asbestos section, and a carbon tetra-fluoride section, and a section for any other known carcinogen because restaurants should be allowed to subject their customers to such.

This isn't a rights issue folks, it's a public health issue.

[ploto]

I should not have to be subjected to your smoke in order to do my job.

[ChumpDumper]

You shouldn't have the right to dictate the terms of an establishment to the owners.

So they should be able to leave the egg salad out next to the grill all day, right?

I think most smoking bans are bull and I've never smoked. I think its a disgusting habit, but I don't think I should tell an owner that people can't smoke at his bar. If people don't like the smoke, go somewhere else.

I usually do. Now i don't have to most of the time. it's great.

Right, and we need an asbestos section, and a carbon tetra-fluoride section, and a section for any other known carcinogen because restaurants should be allowed to subject their customers to such.

This isn't a rights issue folks, it's a public health issue.

True enough. Making people step outside to smoke is doing them and everyone else a favor and keeping me stank-free.

[Dre_7]

[Vinnie_Johnson]

[Wild Cobra]

There is a good side to him being a smoker. He will probably be hesitant to sign laws that imposes smoking bans nationwide.

[ducks]

There is a good side to him being a smoker. He will probably be hesitant to sign laws that imposes smoking bans nationwide.

that is good?

why would you want people to catch second hand smoke and get cancer

seems more people catch second hand smoke and get cancer
then those that actually smoke

[chode_regulator]

that is good?

why would you want people to catch second hand smoke and get cancer

seems more people catch second hand smoke and get cancer
then those that actually smoke

nice overdramatization. you should work for one of the mainstream media outlets.

straight from the ACS, approximately 440000 die from smoking illnesses, half of which are lung cancer. so 220000ish. and about 3000 non smoker lung cancer deaths. i would say that 3000 is pretty close to 220000. and i would say most of those are people that live iwth smokers, so its not like they ddnt have a choice to stand up to it.

[balli]

I understand and agree with the rational of those who disagree with smoking bans. I don't necessarily like the idea that we tell owners of private establishments whether or not to allow smoking. And I whole-heartedly understand the notion that one can choose whether or not to attend a bar that allows smoking.

But I don't give a . I don't go out to the bar all that much anymore, but when I did I was getting damn ing sick of my clothes getting absolutely drenched in gross ass cigarette smoke. And even if I only go out to the bar a handful of times a year now, I still don't care. I'd rather compromise business owner's personal rights and smoker's comfort and warmth, than come home 10 nights a year stinking like other peoples' inhaled smoke. So while I agree with the pro-smoking contingent's calim to personal rights in theory, in practice- you smokers, hope you enjoy the outdoors.

[chode_regulator]

yeah i get where yorue coming from. even when i did smoke and went to bars, if i passed out and woke up in teh same clothes it made me want to puke form the smell of old cig smoke. or if i caught a whiff of the clothes from teh floor.

funny though you care more about your clothes and a stench that washes off than you do about second hand smoke.

i can see restaurants banning smoking, but bars? i mean thats half the experience of going to bars. nothing better than a low key hole in teh wall bar that you walk into and its dark inside and smokey.

[ChumpDumper]

nothing better than a low key hole in teh wall bar that you walk into and its dark inside and smokey.

Sure there is: a low key hole-in-the-wall bar that you walk into and it's dark inside and not smoky.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Right, and we need an asbestos section, and a carbon tetra-fluoride section, and a section for any other known carcinogen because restaurants should be allowed to subject their customers to such.

This isn't a rights issue folks, it's a public health issue.

Nah, it's an annoyance issue.

Health issue is completely overblown.

[xrayzebra]

Wonder if he is allowed to smoke in those big SUV's that leaves a real big carbon
footprint. I wonder if he gets his cigs on the legit. market or goes through one
of those no tax mail order people?

[jack sommerset]

USA will be paying for his lung cancer soon. Great choice in a President America!

[cherylsteele]

I'm sure he's not the first president to smoke since being tobacco-free isn't a qualification for the presidency.

list of presidents that smoked....there are quite a few of them.
http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar...40,106,00.html

[Spurminator]

I wish we could ban bags and dance music from bars too.

[jack sommerset]

Clinton used his cigar for other things