OU @ OSU thread

[J.T.]

OU gave up 41 to this team?

[chode_regulator]

all anyone talks about is how many pionts ou scores. not about how many there defense gives up.

they consistently give up over 20 pts a game and im sure a huge chunk of yards to go with that. 8 of their 11 games they gave up 20 pts, adn i dont count their first one against chattanooga. poor bas s ended up with 1 win all year.


either way i think they convinced everyone enough to give them number 2. i mean really they didnt win all that much more convincinly than texas all year. other than at tech. ut games were just lower scoring all around.

[bostonguy]

all anyone talks about is how many pionts ou scores. not about how many there defense gives up.

they consistently give up over 20 pts a game and im sure a huge chunk of yards to go with that. 8 of their 11 games they gave up 20 pts, adn i dont count their first one against chattanooga. poor bas s ended up with 1 win all year.


either way i think they convinced everyone enough to give them number 2. i mean really they didnt win all that much more convincinly than texas all year. other than at tech. ut games were just lower scoring all around.

But they didnt beat Texas. That's the biggie. 45-35 plus Texas D basically shutdown Bradford in the 4th. That game not making much impact in the bcs is unacceptable.

[chode_regulator]

well i think that as gay as it is, with such a small lead in the bcs, ou will jump texas. which is obviously unfortunate for us ut fans. ing baylor, i thought they were going to pull the miracle off too.

funny ariticle from houston chronicle a few days before ut/a&m game. i vote for this guys methods.

http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice...he_aggies.html

[bostonguy]

well i think that as gay as it is, with such a small lead in the bcs, ou will jump texas. which is obviously unfortunate for us ut fans. ing baylor, i thought they were going to pull the miracle off too.

funny ariticle from houston chronicle a few days before ut/a&m game. i vote for this guys methods.

http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice...he_aggies.html

Well OU is going to get their asses kicked for 3rd time in a row in the National le game (LSU/USC). They have a ty D. I dont care how great their offense is, Bama/Fla will stop them. Great D ALWAYS beats Great O.

[chode_regulator]

another thing too, why is it only in college football that beating an opponent by as mch as possible is acceptable.

from a little kid,all the way into the nfl its unacceptable. except in cfb. personally i dont care either way. if you can go big, go big. but eveyrone in the media/school systems these days thinks its unsportsman like. evcen in teh nfl belichik gets called names for running up scores, and how much you beat someone by sure as doesnt matter in teh nfl. but in cfb its encouraged as "style points"

what the is a style point?>

[Cant_Be_Faded]

rofl

In a sane world OU would have just showed the entire country they gave up 200 yards rushing and 41 points. OU's defense ing sucks, and their offense is overrated as all get out. The second they face a team with a decent front 4 they're going to get owned, just like Texas owned them.

Pretty ing sad, pretty much every game played this week increased OU's SOS points in the BCS formula and decreaesd UT's SOS. And the computers are what the horns had going for them.

We're ed, will probably play u in tah in the fiesta bowl. After that assraping we will get ready for next year to beat the out of OU and still get snubbed by the voters.

OU on the other hand is hte luckiest ing good team I have ever seen in my life. The tapped pass right into Gresham's ing hands.....Bad snaps leading to Bradford rushing TD's....total bull . If they didn't get at least two int's or passes tapped right into their players hands a game I wouldn't be so ing bitter, but they are seriously the luckiest peices of ever.

ou and their bull . Florida will completley eviscerate their ass. Theres a reason they haven't won a bowl game since 2002.

[crc21209]

I GUARANTEE TEXAS WILL BE NO. 2 IN THE BCS RANKINGS TOMORROW. OU didnt beat the out of OSU the way they should have.

[crc21209]

I said Texas would be #2 last week and no one believed me, it will happen again no worries.

[ShoogarBear]

You don't understand how the computer rankings work, then. Margin of victory doesn't matter.

[johngateswhiteley]

i'm mad b/c i wanted USC to play ou or t.u. in the Fiesta...this sucks. ing penn state....who gives a .

[j-6]

You don't understand how the computer rankings work, then. Margin of victory doesn't matter.

Yeah, but margin of victory may matter to guys like Al Del Greco and Touchdown Tommy Vardell (rest of Harris Poll voters listed here: http://www.harrisinteractive.com/new...pt_17_2008.pdf) and the various coaches that have a vote (http://www.afca.com/ViewArticle.dbml...ATCLID=6395190). The biggest irony in the coaches poll is that Mack and Leach are voters, and Stoops isn't.

The Harris poll already put OU ahead of Texas and a couple of those guys even gave the Sooners first place votes last week, in third. The coaches had OU second, just behind Bama.

As CBF said, Stoops and company are hoping these folks see the 61 OU hung on Okie State and be impressed, and not the 41 they gave up.

[ShoogarBear]

Right, but the point is, as you said, OU is already ahead of UT in the human polls. What was keeping UT ahead in the overall BCS were the computing ratings, which do not depend on margin of victory. So, presuming the coaches were not going to change their minds as long as OU won, margin of victory was meaningless to the overall standings.

[j-6]

Right, but the point is, as you said, OU is already ahead of UT in the human polls. What was keeping UT ahead in the overall BCS were the computing ratings, which do not depend on margin of victory. So, presuming the coaches were not going to change their minds as long as OU won, margin of victory was meaningless to the overall standings.

Tell me if I am talking out of my ass here or if I misunderstood you. Each poll plus the computers make up 1/3rd of the BCS formula. Texas is only ahead of OU (by .009 in overall BCS) because the computers have UT up by .060 when those five polls are tabulated. Wouldn't it make sense to try and manipulate the human vote, especially since it makes up 2/3rds of the overall formula? Especially when many of those members aren't going to know much more about the game than some SportsCenter highlights and a box score in the Sunday paper?

Jesus, that came out like I was defending Bobby Stoops.

[J.T.]

Well, the 45-35 campaign did it's part for the coaches' poll. Last week Oklahoma led Texas in the coaches' poll by 42 points. This week they lead Texas by ONE point. Looks like Texas is still 22 points behind OU in the Harris poll, but let's hope that 41 point swing is enough to cover whatever lead they lose in the BCS computers.

[Texas Chili Dog]

Well, the 45-35 campaign did it's part for the coaches' poll. Last week Oklahoma led Texas in the coaches' poll by 42 points. This week they lead Texas by ONE point. Looks like Texas is still 22 points behind OU in the Harris poll, but let's hope that 41 point swing is enough to cover whatever lead they lose in the BCS computers.

the Harris poll hasn't been released for today yet, so we'll have to see what the changes are there. I'm just hoping for Texas to be within 21 points at least.

[tp2021]

For what its worth, UT moved 8 points in front of OU in the AP poll.

[J.T.]

For what its worth, UT moved 8 points in front of OU in the AP poll.

AP poll isn't factored into the BCS formula anymore so that poll doesn't matter. But if the coaches' and AP polls are any indication, UT closed whatever gap OU had on them in the polls by holding A&M to -24 yards rushing.

[ShoogarBear]

Tell me if I am talking out of my ass here or if I misunderstood you. Each poll plus the computers make up 1/3rd of the BCS formula. Texas is only ahead of OU (by .009 in overall BCS) because the computers have UT up by .060 when those five polls are tabulated. Wouldn't it make sense to try and manipulate the human vote, especially since it makes up 2/3rds of the overall formula? Especially when many of those members aren't going to know much more about the game than some SportsCenter highlights and a box score in the Sunday paper?

Jesus, that came out like I was defending Bobby Stoops.

Of course, just on the basis of logic, 45-35 should have already been factored into everyone's vote LAST WEEK. This week's vote should only taken into account whatever transpired this week.

Anybody who changes their vote THIS week on the basis of 45-35 when they didn't do it last week is an imbecile. And FWIW I think Texas has the strongest case by far.