At least we can claim national championship this year based on the USC clause of 2003.
I am a UT fan and I will be honest. I think OU is playing as well as anyone right now but I also feel Texas is as well.
The one thing that Big XII fans should be able to agree on....
Tech, UT and OU are all deserving of a national le shot and two of those three were going to get screwed out of that because of the archaic system that D-1 football has in place.
I found this interesting. It's all the different tie breaker methods.
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/co...144&CID=883480
Oklahoma may be fortunate to reside in the Big 12. It is one of five leagues that is broken up into divisions – and it's the only league whose tiebreaker system would've ended up with the Sooners as the division champs. Here's a look:
ACC: Texas (fifth tiebreaker)
Once a three-team tie has been reduced to two, a two-team tiebreaker is used.
Combined head-to-head (all are 1-1)
Records vs. division (all are 4-1)
Head-to-head compe ion vs. team within the division with best overall (divisional or conference) proceeding through division (all beat Oklahoma State, Baylor, Texas A&M)
Overall record for non-division teams (Texas wins; Longhorns opponents are 21-15, OU's and Tech's are 20-16)
Big 12: Oklahoma (fifth tiebreaker)
The records of three teams will be compared against each other (all are 1-1)
The records of three teams will be compared within their division (all are 4-1)
The records of three teams will be compared to next highest placed teams in their division (all beat Oklahoma State, Baylor, Texas A&M)
The records of three teams against common opponents (all beat Kansas, only common North opponent)
Team with top BCS ranking (No. 2 Oklahoma, No. 3 Texas, No. 7 Texas Tech)
Conference USA: Texas (sixth tiebreaker)
Highest regular-season win percentage based on conference play (all tied at .875)
Head to head between tied teams (all are 1-1)
Highest win percentage in division (all .800)
Records against divisional opponents in descending order of finish (all beat Oklahoma State, Baylor, Texas A&M)
Records against common cross-division opponents (all beat Kansas)
Records against cross-division opponents in descending order of finish (Texas wins; Longhorns defeated North champ Missouri)
Mid-American: Texas (fourth tiebreaker)
Head to head
Record vs. division
Win percentage of cross-over opponents (all 4-0 vs. common opponents, North opponents were a combined 11-13 for all teams)
Cross-division opponents in rank order (Texas wins; beat North champ Missouri)
SEC: Texas (sixth tiebreaker)
Head to head
Record vs. division
Head to head vs. team within division with best overall record and proceeding through division (all beat Oklahoma State, Baylor and Texas A&M)
Record vs. non-division teams (all 3-0)
Record vs. common non-divisional teams with best conference record (all beat Kansas)
Team with highest BCS, unless second tied team is ranked within five or fewer places of highest ranked team. In this case, head to head of winner of top two is the representative. (Oklahoma is No. 2, Texas is No. 3, Texas Tech is No. 7; Texas beat Oklahoma)
How about that, eh? The Big 12 is the only conference where OU would have come out ahead.
Co National Champions. UT gets half motha as!
OU the better team? UT beat your ass on a neutral field, UF will do the same.
Yeah, if OU beats Missouri and Florida barely beats Bama and OU and UT blows out somebody in the Fiesta Bowl then UT has a shot in the AP. But Florida is really good.
I wonder how that kid who dropped that pick feels right now... he robbed UT fans of the chance to watch Florida beat UT for the le.
BCS ing blows. Need a damn playoff system to determine the two best teams.
The BCS isn't what screwed Texas. The Big 12 tiebreaker rules screwed Texas. Off all the conferences that are split into divisions, the Big 12 is the ONLY one where Oklahoma would win the tiebreaker over Texas. UT would win in every other conference.
Since neither the conferences nor the BCS has a "common sense" clause, like this is going to happen.
I'm all for hoping the "system" will up back in our favor if my hopes come to fruition and OU loses. UT could for some strange reason, perhaps, I hope, maybe, play for the National Championship without winning the Big 12 (or even playing in the championship game).
Ah well. At least I still have my Spurs.
You're what's wrong with sports right now. what's "fun", I'd rather have an honest champion. Sports are more than just pure entertainment, does anyone remember pure compe ion? Well with the BCS it isn't settled on the field, all it is is a guessing game. Sure it's fun to watch because college football in general is fun but are you honestly telling me that watching those teams in a playoff wouldn't be just as fun if not more fun to watch?
oh, the irony. some t.u. fans hoping for a split national le.
You really have no right to make this post as long as you keep that SC banner in your sig.
Jackass, I'm a UT fan.
circle of life, i guess, gotta take what u can get
I agree UT and OU are both deserving of a shot.
Tech can go themselves.
There are two scenarios in which UT goes to the NC game.
1. Mizzou beats OU....not likely
2. Florida beats Bama - very likely
If number 2 happens Florida is too far behind in the cmoputers and it would more than likely be an OU vs UT rematch in the NC game.
I put UT's chances at 50/50
DD
i think florida beating bama is a good enough win to jump florida in the driver's seat...i would put UT's chances at 25/75...the chances get better if Mizzou wins, but then you have USC sitting there with a similar argument.
FREAKIN TECH, ing all kinds of up...i cannot believe texas lost to those suckers!
Now I was actually very curious about the #2 scenario. But exactly how far behind UT and OU is Florida? I have a hard time beliving that after beating the #1 team, they won't at least jump UT (which would still be BS, considering how weak their schedule is compared to UT, and the fact that their loss came to an unranked team)
Florida is WAY WAY WAY behind in the computers....even if they jump to number 1 in both human polls the odds are still in UT's favor based on the computer models.
DD
Not saying that I doubt you, but I'm very interested in seeing those numbers, and curious as to how much a close win against Bama would affect them.
Maybe so, but there is such a love affair with the SEC, there's no way they don't put Florida or Bama in the championship game. They'll find a way to work the computers in the SEC's favor. Even if Florida wins and are too far behind in the computers, they'll find a way to put Bama in there (kinda like the year Chokelahoma lost the Big 12 championship but still played in the NC game).
why would a Florida win help Texas? It would actually make it tougher on UT. If Alabama beats Florida and Mizzou beats Oklahoma, then that obviously erases Florida and OU from the picture. That would leave #3 UT and #5 USC (BCS rankings) as the next two teams ready to jump in to play Alabama.
Well obviously what you just said would be the best case-scenario for UT. But i think DDakota was just stating that its actually still possible for UT to get in even if OU wins.
As much as I would like to see Texas in the National Championship game, I don't think a team who doesn't win their conference should be eligible to play for it.
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