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    23 points, 15 rebounds, 8 blocks. Call that er up now.

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    Ahearn as Vaughn's replacement next season, cheap multi-year deal.

    The Spurs should waive Tolliver so that can protect Hairston or some other wing.

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    Ahearn as Vaughn's replacement next season, cheap multi-year deal.

    The Spurs should waive Tolliver so that can protect Hairston or some other wing.
    A month ago I would have agreed. But I think Tolliver deserves an extended look. More so than Hairston.

    I think the solution is to waive or trade Vaughn.

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    ahearn must be liked. thats good news for him.

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    23 points, 15 rebounds, 8 blocks. Call that er up now.
    No doubt. , I'll take 10/7/2 out of him.

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    It made sense to get rid of Vaughn during training camp in my opinion, but I don't think it's going to happen now either. Putting him on the inactive list is a start in the direction but I'd be surprised if they outright cut him. If a team takes him on with cash (and a tractor) for a 2nd round pick then obviously the situation changes.

    I do think they the FO wants to groom Ahearn to be next year's 3rd string PG. Pop loves having 3 point guards, and assuming that doesn't change, Ahearn is a great option. He has at least one or more quantifiable skills for the NBA level.

    I think what makes this situation all the more complicated is the delay in waiting to see when Ian can join the team and what he can produce, as well as how to gauge Tolliver's progress during this same time frame and to determine if they keep him or cut him to audition D League small forwards, if not other bigs.

    With Ian's return date being somewhat near the date for contracts becoming guaranteed for the year - that makes an interesting scenario.

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    No doubt. , I'll take 10/7/2 out of him.
    I'll settle for 5.2/6.8/0.6, which is what our current center rotation is putting up combined.

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    He had a ridiculous triple double on opening night and a very solid game last night as well. Quite an improvement over last year's stats. We'll see if he keeps it up. I'm sure a lot of teams are looking. I think he was in the Pacers' camp this year or last.

    http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfil...=courtney_sims
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    A month ago I would have agreed. But I think Tolliver deserves an extended look. More so than Hairston.

    I think the solution is to waive or trade Vaughn.
    I would agree with the long look at Tolliver. His shooting needs to come around, but his BBIQ is very high.

    As for Vaughn, I also agree, but don't expect it to happen. Pop has way too much respect for Vaughn to exile him to the scrapheap. And the Spurs are too cheap to buyout or throw cash away like that.
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    I keep hearing a lot about Courtney Sims. What about him?
    Yeah, he's generating a lot of buzz now. If he has another couple of games like those first two, someone is bound to give him a ten day contract. Like Mahinmi in the past, it seems one of Sims' main problems was staying out of foul trouble, so his second game of the D-league season was possibly a sign of progress-- he had 11 blocks and only one foul to go along with 22 points, 17 rebounds, and 2 assists.

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    Yeah, he's generating a lot of buzz now. If he has another couple of games like those first two, someone is bound to give him a ten day contract. Like Mahinmi in the past, it seems one of Sims' main problems was staying out of foul trouble, so his second game of the D-league season was possibly a sign of progress-- he had 11 blocks and only one foul to go along with 22 points, 17 rebounds, and 2 assists.
    I'd be curious to know whether Ian ever put up numbers like that during his D-league stint.

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    Courtney Sims looks like a man on a mission so far. He is acting like a man who eats soup with a fork, as Kenny Smith would say.

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    sims definitely needs a little more bulk but waive ahearn and sign him to a 10-day now. i don't understand why the spurs are keeping four point guards + manu who can play some backup point. need help in the front court.

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    Another Mickey Mouse move to the Mickey Mouse city of Austin.

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    Another Mickey Mouse post from the Mickey Mouse poster.

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    I'd be curious to know whether Ian ever put up numbers like that during his D-league stint.
    In Mahinmi's final game last season he went for 21 points, 15 rebounds, 5 blocks, and 5 fouls.

    It must be a little nerve-wracking for all the GMs and team presidents who are no doubt keeping a close eye on Sims right now... do the performances of his first two games really represent growth on his part? He was just cut by the Hornets a month ago... but in one of those games, he went up against Chris Alexander, who many considered the best big in the D-league in pre-season reviews... either way, at this point, I'd still call him a wiser gamble than Ahearn, who really isn't needed at all. Grab him before someone else does!

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    In Mahinmi's final game last season he went for 21 points, 15 rebounds, 5 blocks, and 5 fouls.

    It must be a little nerve-wracking for all the GMs and team presidents who are no doubt keeping a close eye on Sims right now... do the performances of his first two games really represent growth on his part? He was just cut by the Hornets a month ago... but in one of those games, he went up against Chris Alexander, who many considered the best big in the D-league in pre-season reviews... either way, at this point, I'd still call him a wiser gamble than Ahearn, who really isn't needed at all. Grab him before someone else does!
    I agree that Sims would've been a much wiser gamble than a 4th pg. Spurs should've gotten a long look at this guy while Ian was out. Probably doesn't make much sense to have him now - unless Ian's return is uncertain.

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    Some quotes from Ahearn.

    Ahearn gets assigned to Austin
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    With Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker back in the lineup, it was no surprise that there was no longer room for Blake Ahearn in the San Antonio lineup, and that Ahearn will be headed back to the D-League.

    But Ahearn won't be coming back to the Dakota Wizards - in fact he'll be playing against them. That's because the Spurs didn't release Ahearn, rather they assigned him to their D-League affiliate, the Austin Toros. Ahearn's new team will be facing his old one on Wednesday.

    "I already talked to (coach Duane Ticknor) and Will Frisby and called (general manager) Tom Wagganer," Ahearn said. "It will be a little awkward, but a good awkward.

    "I'll try not to call out all their plays," he said with a laugh.

    Although the 24-year-old Ahearn obviously would have liked to stay with the Spurs, his assignment definitely has some silver linings. As an assigned player, Ahearn will still collect his NBA salary. And the Spurs are one of three NBA teams that own their affiliate, and they clearly have an interest in the D-League. Finally by assigning Ahearn instead of releasing him, it shows the Spurs think Ahearn may have a future in the NBA.

    "If they thought I was just an insurance policy, they would have just cut me," Ahearn said. "I'm a compe or, so I'd rather be playing."

    It was the second NBA call-up for Ahearn, who won the D-League rookie of the year award last season for Dakota.

    This time he played in three games, averaging 2.7 points in six minutes per game.

    "The fact that it was with the San Antonio Spurs, one of the greatest franchises in sports was the best thing," Ahearn said. "They're a top-notch organization with great people - great coaches and great players."

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    I am having trouble understanding why we need to retain him. I know Pop like to keep 3 PG's on the roster and he might be wanting to groom Ahearn for the future, but is it really necessary? Mason and Manu can both fill in at point. With continued questions regarding Ian I would think it to be wiser to have a roster spot available to deal with more immediate needs.

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    I am having trouble understanding why we need to retain him. I know Pop like to keep 3 PG's on the roster and he might be wanting to groom Ahearn for the future, but is it really necessary? Mason and Manu can both fill in at point. With continued questions regarding Ian I would think it to be wiser to have a roster spot available to deal with more immediate needs.
    Agreed. Using a roster spot on a 4th PG is an absolute waste. Especially this year and especially when there are other needs. Next year is next year. I liked it better when Pop was auditioning players at that 15th spot.

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    It's still an audition.

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    It's still an audition.
    Ok...but a is it a necessary one given our current cir stances?

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    Eh, I don't think the situation is desperate. Sure I'd prefer taking a look at Sims, but I'm not sure he would play any more than Ahearn did since Manu and Parker came back.

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    Agreed...I don't see it as desperate either, but I would place it in a higher category of concern. I think Sims would see minutes, especially against more athletic front lines like the Hornets and Lakers. Worst case scenario we could sign him and send him down to Austin to retain him.

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    I have no idea way we are keeping this guy on the roster. He doesnt look like an NBA player to me. Only thing I can think of is maybe we are exploring dealing vaughn since a couple teams are looking for a backup pg.

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