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    To nobody's suprise

    Marbury and Knicks Don’t Reach Buyout Agreement

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/02/sp...tml?ref=sports
    HOWARD BECK
    Published: December 1, 2008
    GREENBURGH, N.Y. – With his Knicks career down to its final days, and perhaps final hours, Stephon Marbury sparked one last firestorm for the franchise to douse.

    Duane Burleson/Associated Press

    Stephon Marbury said he never used the words "I will not play."

    In comments published in Monday’s New York Post, Marbury called Coach Mike D’Antoni a liar who showed him no respect and said his teammates “left me out for dead” after Marbury was dropped from the rotation.
    “I sat there for three weeks and didn’t say one word,” Marbury told the newspaper. “I didn’t hear one of my teammates say, ‘Why isn’t Stephon Marbury playing?’”
    Marbury met Monday afternoon with the team president Donnie Walsh in an attempt to resolve a month-long standoff over Marbury’s status. The Knicks want Marbury to accept a buyout of his $21.9 million contract. Marbury wants his release but has been reluctant to give up much at the negotiating table.
    The meeting was scheduled for 2 p.m. Marbury arrived around 2:30 p.m. and parked his Rolls Royce in the public parking lot, rather than the players’ lot. Fifteen minutes later, he walked back through the lobby and returned to his car, but did not leave.
    Marbury, who does not have an agent, is being advised by a players association lawyer, Hal Biagas. The parties had not met in person for nearly three weeks, and there was skepticism that the matter would be resolved with a single meeting.
    Biagas left the meeting about 20 minutes after Marbury did and said the matter was “not resolved.” He did not indicate if further meetings were scheduled.
    “I’m not commenting, guys,” Biagas told reporters before getting in Marbury’s car to leave. “We need to try to keep this in-house and I have no comment at this time. We’ll keep you posted if things happen.”

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    “I didn’t hear one of my teammates say, ‘Why isn’t Stephon Marbury playing?’”
    I wonder why?

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    It's possible that in this particular set of events that both sides are pretty much equally being ing bags about this whole situation.

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    The ultmate irony would be: the Cavs sign Marbury, win the le this year or next and LeBron stays in Cleveland.

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    who gives a

    nice clothes marbs....

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    It's possible that in this particular set of events that both sides are pretty much equally being ing bags about this whole situation.
    It's only fair the team get a little payback. I would ask him if he's playing before every game and if he refuses keep fining him. It all comes down to an employee refusing to work. I'm sure that's violating his contract in some way. No play no pay.

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    Marbury AKA Class-A Bag

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    He can play like crap.....the Knicks screwed themselves and want to recoup some of the money....same situation as Larry Brown had a few years ago.

    DD

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    Marbury AKA Class-A Bag
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    LOL the cuckold speaks!

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    can someone explain to me why Marbury should agree to a buyout? The Knicks gave him a contract to play basketball for X amount of years and make X amount of money...you pay him what the contract says, he doesn't need to accept a buyout because he sucks or is a cancer- don't give him the contract in the first place.

    I'm on Step's side on this. If you have a contract with a business partner, you don't just not pay it if you don't like how things work out in a couple years...you pay the contract. That is the risk, sometimes they work in your favor, sometimes they dont

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    If I had a contract that paid me $21,000,000 to do a job, and they didn't even have me actually do the job...there is not a chance in I would agree to a buyout to get me out of that situation because that is my dream job

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    I'm about tired of hearing the "employee is refusing to work bit". They told him, his teammates and the media that he was no longer a part of the team. They alienated him during practices and games. He sat there just like he was asked to do and became a slave to his contractual terms of being a Knick. Then all of sudden they wanted something from him. that. They already pulled the plug on him and proceeded to run him around town like a slave on a chain leash for everyone to see who and what Marbury was. They treated him like a child. De-activate him and severe ties if you have no intentions of using him. To parade him around like a pet is appauling even for someone as self-righteous as Starbury. The Knicks organization should be fined and punished for this blackeye on basketball.

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    I'm about tired of hearing the "employee is refusing to work bit". They told him, his teammates and the media that he was no longer a part of the team. They alienated him during practices and games. He sat there just like he was asked to do and became a slave to his contractual terms of being a Knick. Then all of sudden they wanted something from him. that. They already pulled the plug on him and proceeded to run him around town like a slave on a chain leash for everyone to see who and what Marbury was. They treated him like a child. De-activate him and severe ties if you have no intentions of using him. To parade him around like a pet is appauling even for someone as self-righteous as Starbury. The Knicks organization should be fined and punished for this blackeye on basketball.
    yeah they are turning him into the bad guy for signing a ridiculous contract that they want out of. They are the idiots that agreed to the thing, pay up and learn from your mistakes, that is how good businesses function.

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    I'm about tired of hearing the "employee is refusing to work bit". They told him, his teammates and the media that he was no longer a part of the team. They alienated him during practices and games. He sat there just like he was asked to do and became a slave to his contractual terms of being a Knick. Then all of sudden they wanted something from him. that. They already pulled the plug on him and proceeded to run him around town like a slave on a chain leash for everyone to see who and what Marbury was. They treated him like a child. De-activate him and severe ties if you have no intentions of using him. To parade him around like a pet is appauling even for someone as self-righteous as Starbury. The Knicks organization should be fined and punished for this blackeye on basketball.
    You don't work when I ask then why should I pay you? right or wrong that's the situation. As long as he's cashing their checks he is an employee no matter how ed up that seems.

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    I don't understand why they bench him in the first place..was it because he wouldn't accept a buyout?

    I mean he is playing for the Knicks, he can't be that bad that he can't even suit up for them

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    And people wonder why he will never be a Spur.

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    I don't understand why they bench him in the first place..was it because he wouldn't accept a buyout?

    I mean he is playing for the Knicks, he can't be that bad that he can't even suit up for them
    I don't know. You're talking about a player whos' ego was so big he said there was only room for one star in Minnesota. He may feel he's bigger than the team. That must be for a coach to deal with.

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    You don't work when I ask then why should I pay you? right or wrong that's the situation. As long as he's cashing their checks he is an employee no matter how ed up that seems.
    A contract shouldn't consist of unfair and unreasonable business practices. I don't care how loyal to the contract you are the binding agreement doesn't lend the ability to mistreat and misrepresent the other party. They walked all over him during the offseason. They did nothing productive for either themselves or Marbury in the last calendar year. They abused their rights of his contract by defaming and degrading him publically for know known reason. Then they turned around and docked him pay for not helping the very hand that cut him off.

    At some point if they don't leave him alone and expect nothing from him or work out a reasonable buyout he'll hire a lawyer and it won't go well for the Knicks. At this point the Knicks are in far more breech of contract than Marbury ever was.

    I'll lay it out in real simple terms.

    A NBA contract doesn't equate to slavery.

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    A contract shouldn't consist of unfair and unreasonable business practices. I don't care how loyal to the contract you are the binding agreement doesn't lend the ability to mistreat and misrepresent the other party. They walked all over him during the offseason. They did nothing productive for either themselves or Marbury in the last calendar year. They abused their rights of his contract by defaming and degrading him publically for know known reason. Then they turned around and docked him pay for not helping the very hand that cut him off.

    At some point if they don't leave him alone and expect nothing from him or work out a reasonable buyout he'll hire a lawyer and it won't go well for the Knicks. At this point the Knicks are in far more breech of contract than Marbury ever was.

    I'll lay it out in real simple terms.

    A NBA contract doesn't equate to slavery.
    What have the Knicks done to him? Sat him down for being insubordinate? When asked why he isn't playing by the press answered the question? Not played him? They are not obligated to. Many players don't get court time for numerous reasons, but if they call upon you to play (and you're collecting a check) you play.It's not like you are talking about the ideal employee anyway. When the team was trying to bend over backwards for the last two years they got pissed on by the same employee. Should they just have to pay him and take it? What about the teams rights?

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    MORE BREAKING NEWS

    Knicks' Donnie Walsh says Stephon Marbury has been banned indefinitely

    By FRANK ISOLA
    DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
    Monday, December 1st 2008, 5:53 PM
    Stephon Marbury has been banished by the Knicks indefinitely.
    Knicks president Donnie Walsh announced late Monday that he ordered Marbury "not to participate in practice or attend games until further notice."
    Walsh added that both sides will continue to work on a long term resolution that will likely lead to the Knicks negotiating a buyout with the disgruntled point guard.
    "It's not resolved," Hal Biagas, Marbury's union lawyer said after emerging from a 35-minute meeting with Walsh.
    "We're keeping it in-house," Biagas added. "I have no comment. I'll keep you posted if things happen."
    Marbury, Biagas and Walsh met at the Knicks training facility on Monday at 2:30 p.m. Marbury left the meeting after 15 minutes and sat in his Rolls Royce until Biagas, who works for the Players Association, exited 20 minutes later. Marbury's driver drove to the entrance to pick up Biagas.
    Marbury refused to comment when he left.
    The Daily News reported last month that the Knicks were considering sending Marbury home if or when Marbury became a distraction or a malcontent. Marbury was suspended for Saturday's game for refusing to play three days earlier against

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    In this story, Marbury told Marc Berman of the New York Post:
    "I sat there for three weeks and didn't say one word. I didn't hear one of my teammates say, 'Why isn't Stephon Marbury playing? This is a good system for him, even to play with the second unit to bring more firepower.' "When things got bad and then worse, guys like Quentin Richardson say, 'I don't consider him a teammate. He let his teammates out to dry.' He didn't care I was his teammate when I was banished. They left me out for dead. It's like we're in a foxhole and I'm facing the other way. If I got shot in the head, at least you want to get shot by the enemy. I got shot in the head by my own guys in my foxhole. And they didn't even give me an honorable death."
    Marbury did have a good word for Chris Duhon, who dished out a team record 22 assists Saturday night against Golden State. "He looked like an All-Star,'' Marbury said about the man who replaced him as the team's point guard.

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    This is disgusting.

    It is sickening to think one can do so little to be guaranteed 15+ million haha

    F my life

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    What have the Knicks done to him? Sat him down for being insubordinate? When asked why he isn't playing by the press answered the question? Not played him? They are not obligated to. Many players don't get court time for numerous reasons, but if they call upon you to play (and you're collecting a check) you play.It's not like you are talking about the ideal employee anyway. When the team was trying to bend over backwards for the last two years they got pissed on by the same employee. Should they just have to pay him and take it? What about the teams rights?
    It wasn't as simple as sitting him down. They announced to everyone including the media and his teammates that he was no longer a part of the "team". So instead of deactivating him and working it out behind the scenes they paraded him out to all the practices but he couldn't practice then to all the games but he couldn't play so on and so forth all while telling everyone that he wasn't really a part of the "team". It was as if they turned him into a mascot of sorts...a pet to showcase. He waited and did what he was told then after they ran all over him and acted as if he was to never have anything to do with this team because he was such a bad boy he gets slapped with a fine for not wanting to play for a team that alienated him and ostersized him in the media.

    Its total garbage.

    I'm not a fan of Marbury. I don't like the guy or his ego but he's 100% right here. The Knicks are way out of line. I don't know what they're trying to prove but its pointless and counterproductive. Why bring the distraction to the front when all they had to do was tell him to go home and stay there. There's no reason for him to even be there if they've "moved on".

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    It wasn't as simple as sitting him down. They announced to everyone including the media and his teammates that he was no longer a part of the "team". So instead of deactivating him and working it out behind the scenes they paraded him out to all the practices but he couldn't practice then to all the games but he couldn't play so on and so forth all while telling everyone that he wasn't really a part of the "team". It was as if they turned him into a mascot of sorts...a pet to showcase. He waited and did what he was told then after they ran all over him and acted as if he was to never have anything to do with this team because he was such a bad boy he gets slapped with a fine for not wanting to play for a team that alienated him and ostersized him in the media.

    Its total garbage.

    I'm not a fan of Marbury. I don't like the guy or his ego but he's 100% right here. The Knicks are way out of line. I don't know what they're trying to prove but its pointless and counterproductive. Why bring the distraction to the front when all they had to do was tell him to go home and stay there. There's no reason for him to even be there if they've "moved on".
    Totally agree, Walsh should have Jamal Tinsley'd Marbury and sent him to the hinterlands.

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