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    Spurs' Ginobili finds his legs not quite up to back-to-backs
    By Mike Monroe

    Though thrilled to be back in uniform after missing the first 12 games of the season, Spurs guard Manu Ginobili on Saturday re-discovered the rigors of back-to-back games.

    Ginobili played 21 minutes in Friday's victory over Memphis, making 6 of 10 shots and scoring 14 points. In 22 minutes against the Rockets on Saturday, he found he was a little flat, making only 2 of 6 shots while committing five turnovers.

    “After being out all those games, I wanted to do too much in small chunks of time,” said Ginobili, who had surgery in September to repair an impingement in his left ankle. “I have to learn to be as patient as the first two games. Let the game come to me, and don't force the issue as much. I know I made too many mistakes, and I'm going to try to learn from that.

    “The back-to-back was a little tougher, even though I maintained the 20-minute mark. I tired a little in the second half, but like I always say, it's not an excuse. When I'm tired, I need to not force the issue, because bad things happen.”

    Ginobili said the two days off between Saturday's game and tonight's against the Pistons at the AT&T Center should help legs that are getting back in game condition.

    Oh, the humanity: How could a team that had been so stingy on defense over its previous six games be so generous to the Rockets, who scored 103 points in their blowout victory over the Spurs on Saturday?

    “We're human,” said Spurs defensive ace Bruce Bowen. “Sometimes you get a little slippage in preparation for games. You come out a little flat against a team that is raring to go, understanding we got a victory against them last time we played them at home. They're going to be ready, and we came out a little too lax. Then, when we make the effort, sometimes it's a little bit too late.”

    Popovich to join Indiana Hall: Spurs coach Gregg Popovich was one of three former Indiana high school stars who are now head coaches announced Monday as inductees in the Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame.

    Popovich played at Merrillville (Ind.) High School before playing college ball at the Air Force Academy.

    Milwaukee Bucks coach Scott Skiles and University of New Mexico coach Steve Alford, also former Indiana prep stars, will be inducted along with Popovich in ceremonies March25 in Indianapolis.

    On the list: Matt Bonner's recent surge of 3-point makes has gotten him on the list of league leaders in 3-point percentage.

    Bonner has made 7 of 10 shots from long range the past five games, finally giving him enough attempts to qualify among the leaders. He ranks third in percentage at 51.5.

    Spurs guard Roger Mason Jr. ranks second in 3-point percentage, at 52.4 percent, behind Golden State rookie Anthony Morrow, who leads with 53.3 percent.

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    To be expected....thanks 228

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    Bonner has made 7 of 10 shots from long range the past five games, finally giving him enough attempts to qualify among the leaders. He ranks third in percentage at 51.5.

    and spurstalk as a whole hates him.
    ha.
    i wonder how many people still want him traded, and how many people have jumped off the 'trade-bonnor bandwagon'.



    gotta love spurs fans.

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    Spurs guard Roger Mason Jr. ranks second in 3-point percentage
    Now that I've heard Mase say he wants to participate in the 3-point contest, the league better extend an invitation.

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    and spurstalk as a whole hates him.
    ha.
    i wonder how many people still want him traded, and how many people have jumped off the 'trade-bonnor bandwagon'.

    gotta love spurs fans.
    With his sharp shooting, Matt makes himself a very interesting trade bait. Look for Pop exchange him with a 4/5 BIG who can help Duncan in the rebounding front. We finally have a piece we can trade!

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    Ginobili played 21 minutes in Friday's victory over Memphis, making 6 of 10 shots and scoring 14 points. In 22 minutes against the Rockets on Saturday, he found he was a little flat, making only 2 of 6 shots while committing five turnovers.
    “After being out all those games, I wanted to do too much in small chunks of time,” said Ginobili, who had surgery in September to repair an impingement in his left ankle. “I have to learn to be as patient as the first two games. Let the game come to me, and don't force the issue as much. I know I made too many mistakes, and I'm going to try to learn from that.

    “The back-to-back was a little tougher, even though I maintained the 20-minute mark. I tired a little in the second half, but like I always say, it's not an excuse. When I'm tired, I need to not force the issue, because bad things happen.
    No , Sherlock. Dribbling behind his back when two defenders trap him on the perimeter? Not a good idea. Forcing passes into tight spaces, when the defender is draped all over a teammate, a la Brett Favre? Not a good idea? These are things I would've expected him to have figured out by now - especially when fatigue has set in.

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    I am a complete waste of keystrokes

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    No , Sherlock. Dribbling behind his back when two defenders trap him on the perimeter? Not a good idea. Forcing passes into tight spaces, when the defender is draped all over a teammate, a la Brett Favre? Not a good idea? These are things I would've expected him to have figured out by now - especially when fatigue has set in.
    Thats Manu for ya. When hes off he hurts any team. (like Romo forcing the ball after driving his team to the redzone, just to throw a pick). Always has. But now we have Roger who with TP and Hill can still score points so Pop can yank the dummy when he's flat as a tortilla. And playing like a sour enchilada. For so many years we've had to take the good with the bad with Manu. We can bench his behind now. When all he's doing is giving other teams the ball. Unexceptable for a team and a player such as Manu. Manu should remember his legs are not like the legs he used to have. But with him his brain only goes one speed. Most of the times thats great to have. But unlike Kobe when he's off, he doesnt mess up the team with his no look fancy passing. Dribbling between your legs while be double teamed. ...... Thats not rust. Thats Manu................

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    It's bad news that manu's hardiness is not as good as it was, but you're gonna keep our team great even without Manu, aren't you, Tim 228?

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    Thats Manu for ya. When hes off he hurts any team. (like Romo forcing the ball after driving his team to the redzone, just to throw a pick). Always has. But now we have Roger who with TP and Hill can still score points so Pop can yank the dummy when he's flat as a tortilla. And playing like a sour enchilada. For so many years we've had to take the good with the bad with Manu. We can bench his behind now. When all he's doing is giving other teams the ball. Unexceptable for a team and a player such as Manu. Manu should remember his legs are not like the legs he used to have. But with him his brain only goes one speed. Most of the times thats great to have. But unlike Kobe when he's off, he doesnt mess up the team with his no look fancy passing. Dribbling between your legs while be double teamed. ...... Thats not rust. Thats Manu................
    Exactly. His recklessness and fearlessness is what makes him such a great player. As he matures, I hope he will learn the difference between high-risk decisions versus stupid decisions. As he stated, "letting the game come to him" in certain situations is a good idea. Get a better feel for the game and for situations where he needs to make such decisions.

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    As he stated, "letting the game come to him" in certain situations is a good idea. Get a better feel for the game and for situations where he needs to make such decisions.
    Yet, "letting the game come to him" acts as an incentive to be too passive towards the game. As you said, "certain" is the key word.

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    Thats Manu for ya. When hes off he hurts any team. (like Romo forcing the ball after driving his team to the redzone, just to throw a pick). Always has. But now we have Roger who with TP and Hill can still score points so Pop can yank the dummy when he's flat as a tortilla. And playing like a sour enchilada. For so many years we've had to take the good with the bad with Manu. We can bench his behind now. When all he's doing is giving other teams the ball. Unexceptable for a team and a player such as Manu. Manu should remember his legs are not like the legs he used to have. But with him his brain only goes one speed. Most of the times thats great to have. But unlike Kobe when he's off, he doesnt mess up the team with his no look fancy passing. Dribbling between your legs while be double teamed. ...... Thats not rust. Thats Manu................
    oh shut the up already. I can't think of one season where Manu hasn't been instrumental to our championship runs, and you make it seem as if its 50/50 with him. The man is coming out of two great performances, but somehow I don't seem to remember you saying about that... no you like to and moan to accentuate the few times he has bad games. You're a complete ing tool.

    Again, your blind hate is showing, might want to cover it up, .

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    Exactly. His recklessness and fearlessness is what makes him such a great player. As he matures, I hope he will learn the difference between high-risk decisions versus stupid decisions. As he stated, "letting the game come to him" in certain situations is a good idea. Get a better feel for the game and for situations where he needs to make such decisions.
    i'm surprised you are feeding this sucka with an "exactly"...

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    i'm surprised you are feeding this sucka with an "exactly"...
    My point is Manu needs to be more judicious in his decision-making. If he does, his greatness goes to another level.

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    My point is Manu needs to be more judicious in his decision-making. If he does, his greatness goes to another level.
    This isn't about whether Manu is great or not. Against the Rockets he made stupid mistakes, nobody is going to argue against that. In fact, I think you're right about everything you've said in this thread, up to the point where you give mrspurs an "exactly".

    That bag isn't being an unbiased critic, he's being an unabashed hater, plain and simple. Just take a look at his posting history and you'll be able to tell where he's coming from.

    The facts in this discussion are

    1) Manu wasn't good against the Rockets
    2) mrspurs is a

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    It's perfectly understandable that Manu had "tired legs" on a B2B. These conditions are a prime example of how Manu needs to "think" and "feel" the game. Generating an effect on the game in other areas, when he's struggling. This is the element to his game that I'm looking for as he gets older.

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    It's perfectly understandable that Manu had "tired legs" on a B2B. These conditions are a prime example of how Manu needs to "think" and "feel" the game. Generating an effect on the game in other areas, when he's struggling. This is the element to his game that I'm looking for as he gets older.

    Agreed. I just disagree with the idiotic notion that Manu is somehow more of a liability than he is an asset, which is what that jackass up there (mrspurs) is always trying to imply. I find it completely ing idiotic, specially since he's coming from his best regular season yet, and with two incredibly productive games right out of the bat from a complicated ankle injury. Suffice to say, mrspurs is a confessed hater.

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