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Just think of how bad off they'd be if they drafted Vince Young
the guy is a beast. he and the texans have definitely been dishing out a big " you" to all the people that trashed on them for that pick, as opposed to getting Reggie Bush.
Just think of how bad off they'd be if they drafted Vince Young
Better than if they drafted Reggie Bush
No. But yeah, Mario was definitely the better pick. I felt Lendale white was a better NFL RB than Reggie Bush would be, and so far, I am kinda right. I still hate Reggie bush for that ing lateral.
Well they can certainly enjoy Mario Williams getting sacks since Sage Rosenfels tries his best to get the punting unit onto the field in record time.Just think of how bad off they'd be if they drafted Vince Young
I wish I had some ESPN video from the days after that NFL Draft. Man oh man.
Bush is great as a special teams type player. He should learn to play reciever, because he will never really be an effective RB.
VY > Bush
LOL I dont know who is better at it Sage or Matt. Sage did decent and didnt blow it on monday night. Lets see how Matt does against GB.
I said it from day one I was happy with the pick. I was never sold on Reggie as a premier back and now Slaton hs given us hope on the backfield, we just need that power runner now. VY yeah im happy we didnt get him. With the line we have he wouldnt stand a chance back there.
Indeed. Well, except for the VY part.
The Jets are getting the same production out of Leon Washington as the Saints are with Bush. Chargers with Sproles.
And VY still has a lot to prove. From the looks of preseason, he was getting worse. Still early in his career, though. He wouldn't be the first QB to flourish after a few rocky years.
ahman green!
Exactly. Reggie can be a great special teams player, and a nice WR. But VY wont amount to in the NFL. I don't like either player, but I would take Bush over VY.
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is that? hmmm....
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yeah, i think it is, let me make sure....
"sniff sniff*
yep, that's definitely the smell of bitterness.
Not at all. I wanted the Raiders to draft him back in 2006, but with the Texans passing up Mario Williams opened up Reggie Bush for the Saints, and everyone knew the ans were going to draft Vince with the #3 pick, if Oakland didn't move up from #7 to #3. I though Vince was going to be unstoppable in the NFL. I am happy we didn't move up, now. But, believe I was pissed that year, considering we passed up on Aaron Rodgers, and Jason Cambell the year before with the #24 pick. Although I am happy we didn't draft him, Micheal Huff didn't exactly pan out with that #7 pick. The right pick for Oakland that year was clearly Jay Cutler.
I like Mario, he is a beast.
However (I know I'm gonna ripped for this), it's easier for him to succeed than someone who's playn RB or QB early on in their career. I'm not taking away from his talent and skill. He's measured on QB pressure, sacks, and tackles. While VY has to direct an offense and Bush has to put up TD's.
Either way, I think people in H-Town are happing with their pick....I know a lot of them weren't at first.
Ok, I agree with the fact that as of this moment... Mario is an obvious better choice than Bush (who was the REAL player in question, not VY). Mario is an absolute beast and I think he will be barring injury for some time.
Interestingly enough stats and opinions seem to change over time. When VY was winning ROY and Bush was looking spectacular in leading the Aints to the NFC Champ game, you wouldn't find many that would think so. I think it hard, at this point, to conclude Bush, or VY for that matter, could not end up being the obvious better pick. After all, it is injuries that keep them from looking better and one injury to Mario could spell the same in reverse. Plus, who is to say that the ans would not still be a 1 or 2 loss team with VY at QB? Seriously, how many games has Collins WON for them? It is an amazing team, not amazing QB play.
All I'm saying is you can't base a conclusion to this on less than 3 years' work. After all, up until the playoffs last year, don't you think everyone would have agreed that the draft-day trade that sent Eli to the Giants for Rivers and picks that would eventually become Merriman, Kaeding and Oben was infinitely better for the Chargers? In the end, it still may be, but it sure looks great for the reigning SB MVP and his 1-loss team right now.
The past 2 seasons everyone has been saying Mario was the better pick. VY won ROTY yes, he made a pro bowl (even though he was like 4th alternate) but its the old saying what have you done for me lately. He has gotten worse each season IMO and his mental issues are now in the open. I dont think he will ever be the same especially since he cant handle being booed and at the QB position the spotlight is on you. I have said this since day one but BUSH will never be a premiere back. He is great in the open field but grinding it out he sucks. In USC he had White, and now he have Duce. Like someone said he would be great as a reciever but as a primary back yeah Ill still pass. Mario is a beast and is getting better and will get better when they get another DE to compliment him.
I think Super Mario is the only DE that could sack Brady Quinn however if that happened that would be disastrous to the world. Just the impact alone would cause the earth to explode.
HA yeah he prob wont be a Texan next year.
It's actually a lot harder to have early success as a DE than a RB. I can see that QB direction, though. Look at past running backs who came in and tore the league up: Adrian Peterson, Cadillac Williams, Ricky Williams, Ladanian Tomlinson. All those guys tore it up as rookies. And think of DE's that have done stuff early? Not too many to name. Maybe Demarcuss Ware and Julius Peppers, and that's about it. Most other ones take time. There are some top draft DE's who still haven't panned out like Gaines Adams.
And I think it's unbelievable for Mario to pick up all his moves and skill sets in what was only his second year in 2007.
Mario was actually scouted as the "next" Julius Peppers. The Texans front office was and has been trying to mold the DEF after the Carolina def of a few years back.
You see, I disagree with that. And I'm not saying all this because I'm a VY fan, but I would put money on it that EVERY player that gets booed for the first time, it has a massive effect on them mentally, many times similar to how it hurt VY. The only difference was that the people around him handled it in a very ty manner, allowing things to get to the media that should have never gotten to the media, that ended up getting blown wayyyy out of proportion, such as the handgun and suicide crap.
Carrying a handgun on you doesn't mean anything. The suicide stuff first off should NOT have ever gotten to the media, and whomever the guy was that he spoke with about those things, should get fired because that stuff should be strictly confidential. Although I'm willing to bet that it was completely overblown as well.
Almost any human when going through tough times will allow the thought of suicide to cross their minds. It doesn't mean they are actually seriously considering it. I'm willing to bet that many people who post on this board can relate to that, perhaps even yourself included, I dunno. It just crosses through naturally, and he probably told his psychiatrist or whoever that doctor was, that it simply crossed his mind a couple times.
Now whether he will or will not recover remains to be seen. But I just feel that the whole situation was massively overblown, and had KFC not ended up playing so efficiently as the team was winning, that VY would have gotten his job back in a heartbeat.
But when was the last time you heard a DE get booed. They boo the def as a whole but I can see how it affects the QB cause he is in the drivers seat.
Bush didn't lead . He wasn't even the #1 RB on the team.
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