Who would you say number 3 lb for lb is?
Well i don't really agree with Dana's list, because of course he has Fedor not on it and he's still the best fighter in the world right now (Until AA KO's him right A-train)
So i'd say
1 Fedor
2 Anderson Silva
3 GSP
Maybe 4 Rampage if he gets through Wandy and the 205 le back from Forrest..
BJ Penn is waaaaay down the list like 100 or so...
Eh... I'd have to go with Fedor on that one. I'd pick GSP for 3rd, maybe.
Well i don't really agree with Dana's list, because of course he has Fedor not on it and he's still the best fighter in the world right now (Until AA KO's him right A-train)
So i'd say
1 Fedor
2 Anderson Silva
3 GSP
Maybe 4 Rampage if he gets through Wandy and the 205 le back from Forrest..
BJ Penn is waaaaay down the list like 100 or so...
OK im going to get flamed for this but I put Fedor after GSP and Silva. I just havent seen enough of Fedor these last few years. Yeah he beat Sylvia but come on I think he was the most over rated HW the last few years. I could kick his ass!! He beat AA twice on flukes in my opinion. AA will put up a better fight for Fedor for sure and prove he is on top of the world in the HW div once again. LOL Rampage nah man he has dropped a bit in my eyes. BJ is up there when he wants to be. I still question his work ethic.
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!!Well i don't really agree with Dana's list, because of course he has Fedor not on it and he's still the best fighter in the world right now (Until AA KO's him right A-train)
I have to disagree with your contention that Sylvia's beating AA twice was a fluke. Maybe if it had been only once. But to do it twice assures that it wasn't a fluke the first time.
After Fedor beats AA in January, will you rank him higher then?
Page only, lost one fight in controversial fashion, that was one of the best fights in UFC history. Prior to that, he KO'd Chuck with ease, back when Chuck was supposed to be the baddest man at 205. He then Beat Henderson convincingly by decision. He beats Wandy, and gets Forrest in the rematch and he's right back on top again..
We're forgetting the little guys, too. Urijah Faber, Miguel Torres...
Yes I will.......but when he(fedor) loses are you going to rank him lower?
I think there was something going on with AA during the times he lost to Sylvia. losing to him would mess with my mind to. The fire was gone then, but its back and when the fire is there AA is number 3 or 4 top HW.......soon to be number 1
AA, gave the 3rd fight away. The 2nd fight TIm got kind of Lucky, because AA got too agressive and got hit with a counter shot, he should not have got nailed with. 3rd fight, that KO was in his head and he just didn't engage enough. A shame because hs is a better much more talented fighter than Sylvia.. He still looked tentative at times in his last fight. Plus on the ground, he's just no match for Fedor whatsoever..
I still think he won that fight against Forrest but it was close. Could have gone either way, but if I was a judge Page got my vote. Yeah he has an impressive resume as of late (last 2 years) but I dont know there is just something about him that tells me he is too one dimensional. Dont get me wrong he is an awesome fighter but I think his ground game leaves room for improvement.
He has been cautious because his aggressive nature has made him lose to guys he shouldnt lose to (Sylvia). I think he is looking for the perfect medium (like Forest). I think he is still figuring it out and im afraid the Fedor fight is coming too soon for him. If he brings the fire Fedor is going to be in for a fight for sure.
He doesn't go for Subs at all, but he is good at staying out of them and he's so strong, he powers out of certain subs like Triangle chokes and what not.. Page's game is big slams, GNP and KO's on the feet, that's why he is so exciting. But i guess he could get better at sub defense, but he's tough to sub now..
If he lost, I'd have to. Andre's chin is suspect and Fedor (despite having the body of a brewery taste-tester) hits like a truck. He also has the better ground game. There would be no reason for him to lose to AA other than by fluke (
Yeah dont get me wrong his power on those slams is amazing but I think lb for lb IMO means best all around game. Thats why I dont put Page up there.
AA has tremendous hands, if he lets them go, he might be able to KO Fedor but i did not like what i saw with AA ground game in his last fight that was on CBS. It looked pretty mediocre and Fedor is a Sub Machine..If he lost, I'd have to. Andre's chin is suspect and Fedor (despite having the body of a brewery taste-tester) hits like a truck. He also has the better ground game. There would be no reason for him to lose to AA other than by fluke (
THATS why I cant put him that high. You dont get better with age in any sport no matter how many times Randy and Fedor do it. Yes AA's chin is suspect but I think he will be fine if they stand up. Im more worried about him on the ground.If he lost, I'd have to. Andre's chin is suspect and Fedor (despite having the body of a brewery taste-tester) hits like a truck. He also has the better ground game. There would be no reason for him to lose to AA other than by fluke (
Tim Sylvia
Mark Hunt
Mark Coleman
Mirko Filipovic Kevin Randleman
Mark Coleman Gary Goodridge
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
Kazuyuki Fujita
Heath Herring
Semmy Schilt
If not one of these guys could do it, I don't think AA would be the one who could.
Fedor's what, 32? Let's not write him up there with Randy, or even Chuck, just yet
I disagree with this
LOL Yeah I know but not fighting doesnt make you better. Its funny cause Fedor looks older than he is IMO thats why I always forget he is only like 3 years older than me.Fedor's what, 32? Let's not write him up there with Randy, or even Chuck, just yet
That's why i said might, i am not disrespecting Fedor's greatness
This is how I feel about Fedor's greatness and im sure AA feels the same way!!
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(stolen from Sherdog forum)
A good read from Sherdog on Affliction's dealings with Gilbert Yvel (for those who know who he is).
In a sport where an evening of hyperextensions and blood-faucet noses is considered getting off lightly, it should come as little surprise that some real savages occasionally enter the ring. You’ve got to have a misplaced synapse or two to eat pain for a living.
Ironically, despite the endless opportunities for mayhem in a freestyle arena, no MMA figure has really come close to the kind of brazen, prehistoric behavior of a Mike Tyson, showcasing a deficit of self-control comparable only to that of an upended turtle.
No one except Gilbert Yvel.
Yvel, a Dutch striker who seems to suffer from the same lack of proper judgment that afflicted Tyson, Andrew Golota and Shonie Carter’s tailor, has perpetuated some of the most classless, shameful and potentially damaging infractions of any combat athlete in the modern era.
Put another way: When John McCain paraded the term “human fighting” in the 1990s, he would’ve been ecstatic to get some footage of Yvel.
The rap sheet:
vs. Karimula Barkalaev in 1998: Yvel was disqualified for biting his opponent.
vs. Dan Henderson in 2000: Yvel landed a calculated elbow on Henderson directly behind the ear while Henderson was working for a takedown.
vs. Don Frye in 2001: Yvel repeatedly gouged Frye’s eyes, was eventually disqualified and placed his hands on the referee.
vs. Atte Backman in 2004: Yvel assaulted the referee by knocking him to the ground and then kicking his hapless frame into unconsciousness.
vs. The Nevada State Athletic Commission in 2007: Yvel was denied a fighter’s license for competing in the state after commissioners evaluated his prior behavior.
Yvel's "rap sheet" is lengthy and varied.That Yvel should now be ringing up PDAs in a Holland Best Buy, exiled from professional athletics, would seem to be a foregone conclusion. Instead, he’s slated to appear before the California State Athletic Commission in order to facilitate a new three-fight U.S. deal courtesy of Affliction, the world’s premier distributor of dragon-skeleton hoodies and pointless prizefights.
Like a criminal trial, I would hope CSAC members will be required to view footage of Yvel’s sickening indiscretions before rendering judgment on the privilege of a fighter license. This is a man clearly too emotional for the heat of the ring, a fact he’s proven beyond a shadow’s doubt on numerous occasions.
A fight license is really not far removed from paperwork securing your right to a firearm. In both cases, a sanctioning body is determining your ability to wield a weapon -- gun or flying knee -- that can do serious bodily harm.
Examined in that light, Yvel’s immaturity is shocking: It’s akin to a 5-year-old brandishing a knife. He has the tools to hurt you seriously, but lacks the self-discipline to be entrusted with them.
It’s a testament to the aimless ambition of Affliction’s promotional arm that he’d even be contacted. Yvel’s striking is formidable and exciting, granted, but that’s a fact that would be long forgotten after a trademark tantrum. He is unranked on any reputable list of heavyweight contenders; he’s also a virtual unknown in America, buzzed about only in online circles as “Mr. Yellow Card,” a scalding reference to his foul-plagued days in Pride.
Employing Yvel is the ultimate low-reward, high-risk approach that common sense warns us against. Affliction, obviously well aware of his resume, would have no spin to rely on in the event he has a meltdown.
Everyone has a right to earn a living. While Phil Baroni’s love tap on referee Larry Landless earned him a well-deserved suspension back in 2003, he was eventually free to pursue his career and was mature enough to acknowledge his error. He hasn’t repeated the mistake. Fair enough.
Yvel, in contrast, never endured similar punishment: With the offenses taking place overseas, he was docked a few “Ws” in his record and some dollars, nothing more. He’s never really been penalized for endangering Frye’s eyesight, or that referee’s health, or costing Barkalaev a (presumed) series of rabies shots.
Is what amounts to time served really a satisfying penalization for those incidents?
That Affliction is willing to wire him a healthy salary and provide U.S. exposure smacks of short-term thinking -- gotta fill this fight card! -- and an indifference to the sport’s reputation. (Mainstream reporters, ever eager for “The Story,” will quickly latch on to Yvel’s inglorious history and use it as an angle. Promise.)
Affliction stumbled here, plain and simple. The heavyweight class is notoriously the least substantial, and the UFC has locked up the majority of promising talent. But in a world where I haven’t seen Roger Gracie compete on television in two years, where Jerome LeBanner is still itching for an MMA fight and where Jeff Monson and Ricco Rodriguez are available, I’m dazed by the appearance of Yvel on a prominent card.
And if all this is too longwinded to digest, you need only to remember one thing: In a 1990s feud with a kickboxer named “Dirty” Bob Schrijber, Yvel was still considered the bad guy. If that doesn’t sum it up, I don’t know what will.
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