Not sure where you're getting your info from....but the A-10 isn't going anywhere for a while.Unfortunately the A-10 and F-117 are being retired - rather terrible idea IMO to retire the A-10 though. The amount of military technology the US has compared to Russia is amazing, those fancy new Suhkoi's have nothing on the F-22 for several reason - and one of them is the AWACS. Not only will the F-22 be stealthy, but they will also not have to use radar - one of the biggest ways to give yourself away is to activate it. Chances are the Russians will be using radar, and you can then use radar-homing missles - something that can't be avoided unless you turn off your radar. Oh, but guess what then - you will definently not see them coming. At that point, they'll have their choice of what to pick you apart with. Russia has severely gone downhill since the 80s because their economy couldn't keep up with the US - blame communism there. I mean seriously, why the do they still fly the Bear?
Oh, and the Russians killed more of their own people than the Germans did - I guess it can be considered by-proxy if you want to blame the Germans, but the Russians did burn their own farms and houses causing millions to starve. Awesome nation you have there!
And it's a very good thing!
I, for one, wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of this bad boy.
Last edited by AFBlue; 12-04-2008 at 04:30 PM.
I was an electronics tech in the Navy who worked on Missiles and combat systems, you people really need to stop playing armchair general because you don't know jack about what we have unless its something you've read about or seen on some ty youtube video.
Air Support, oh so close to my heart
R. econ
O. beserve
M. ark
A. nd
D. estroy
Don't with a hog and a Romad, russian es!
Added a nice pic for you...
That GAU-8...very close to my heart.
Some on here do know jack .
Buuuuuuurrrrp! and gone.
The one thing I miss about the AF is my actually job, the rest sucked
I hear you.Buuuuuuurrrrp! and gone.
The one thing I miss about the AF is my actually job, the rest sucked
But, I'll never forget the first time I saw and heard it fire. Just a beast, especially when compared to the 20mm.
The 20mm is for pussies, lol. I actually loved them all.
Funny story about the 30mm. I was doing an exercise out at some ty reserve base in Missouri and I was calling in an airstrike on a column of tanks (it was dummy tanks on a range) and there were two deer beside them. When I cleared them hot, one of the deer must have jumped 15 feet straight up, and the other..... turned into a very fine pink mist. Yes, it was cruel but reinforced to me what that weapon could do to a soft target that happened to get in the way. Two weapons I'd never want to be on the receiving end of, the GAU and any cluster bomb.
Awesome.
When they test-fire them at an open range they have to clear the airspace because the dummy rounds can ricochet off the burm up to 18K feet.
The only plane that was design-built around the gun...God I love it!
Y'know. This jackass's thread really brought together the left and the right in a way that usually isn't so congenial. Here's to the collective feeling that we're still some badass mofo's here in America
Yep, we can turn a terrorist into "pink mist" but God forbid we pretend drowned him.Y'know. This jackass's thread really brought together the left and the right in a way that usually isn't so congenial. Here's to the collective feeling that we're still some badass mofo's here in America
you military boys talking all this high tech stuff is making me feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside.
makes me want to throw up my American flag right now.
U-S-A U-S-A U-S-A U-S-A
And, back to your respective corners....Y'know. This jackass's thread really brought together the left and the right in a way that usually isn't so congenial. Here's to the collective feeling that we're still some badass mofo's here in America
Y'know. This jackass's thread really brought together the left and the right in a way that usually isn't so congenial. Here's to the collective feeling that we're still some badass mofo's here in America
Don't have a point -- just a cool looking video.
What about sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads?
We're comparing national military strengths with a guy who never heard of the predator?
Sorry, my bad - it isn't up for retirement. There was a possibility but it looks like they extended the service date on it. As a matter of fact, they're upgrading it!
http://www.hill.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123082180
http://www.spacemart.com/reports/Boe...tract_999.html
And uhm, what makes the JSF a 3rd generation stealth plane compared to the F-22? I was under the impression that technology wise, they're the "same" aircraft but for different missions (F-22 for AF and JSF for Navy/Marines.) And isn't the F-117 technical 2nd gen stealth technology with the SR-71 being first gen and the B-2 being 3rd gen?
Handheld pulse laser weaponry is on the Horizon boys and girls, it may take 15-20 years but its definitely coming to a battleground near you.
i am just glad i provoke such sentiments, i have never seen such unified americans on the internet in a long time, it's a wonderful sight to behold, and this thread will lead america back to it's former glory, jeez enough of this sappy bull and lets get back to point, broke nation, broken down space programe, stagnanted military programe, end of story. talk all you want, just wait till the end of this year or the next the truth will much more evident yet, keep staying positive, country of all talk and inaction.
by the end of 2009, this thread will emerge again, till then we can talk about how right i was, when countries like saudi arabia and china stop buying bond from you, you are hoping they would cause you owe these countries alot of money, but they wont because if a disaster of such magnitude happen again they would be in deep too, it means ur left hung and dry, and if you know economics, it wont mean years of poverty and recession, no more importing gooods from other countries, mass unemployment, self sufficiency(which you americans arent acustom with), by that time you will know i am right, but you can start talking alot of bull to make urself feel better now, if you understand world economics, you will know what i mean.
Last edited by Kobe24Forever; 12-04-2008 at 08:09 PM.
all we need now is a death star
these morons who dont know much about the military are throwing everything they could to make a case for themselves, searching wikipedia and pasting it makes me laugh, one guy even clain an su-37 was a prototype cause he searched wikipedia, and i didnt even want to entertain that moron lol, so call military experts are appearing everywhere, i dont claim to be one, cause i dont work for the military, but i can see alot of bull and people talking out of their minds crazy anyday
oh and i heard of a covet operation within the sco, to develope a secret weapon called the gauss propulsion plasma ejaculator, bukake is coming to town yankees, freedom my ass.
Didn't mean to come off as a jerk...
It was recently being discussed for retirement, but they decided to extend it (20 more years at this point). They had similar extensions for a portion of the F-15 fleet, both likely stemming from the decision to cut the original number of F-22s to be produced.
Also to your question, it's not the same stealth technology...but it's not earth-shatteringly different (i.e. advancements in radar-absorbent material). And you're right about the missions being different. F-22 was designed to take on F-15 and A-10 missions, while the F-35A (USAF) is supposed to take over the F-16 mission.
About the "generation" thing, that's just the way I was taught. The point I was making is that the US has been heavily invested in stealth technology for decades and has mass-produced operational aircraft proven in wartime, while the Russians are still in the development stage of their first stealth fighter.
Again, sorry if I offended.
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