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I might agree with you, but being an asshole is a real turn off, you could've found a way to not come across as a punk.
Up 20 in the mid 4th qtr vs Denver, do we need Duncan to remain in the game till the final buzzer? Lead the team in minutes? For that matter Parker, coming off an injury being right behind in 2nd, what with Hill playing as well as he has? I guess Jaque Vaughn can get minutes, but only in close games.
Should we prepare for a possible injury to Duncan due to overuse?
For all you PollyAnna Poppers/Pop Sniffers Club members, could you try to stick to the issue. I'm glad we won the game, Tim looked great. The perspective is this is an early season game. My motive here is simply whats best to win a championship, not spark unintelligent babble.
Try to refrain from redundancy for bandwidth saving purposes. We already know you have already made clear:
Pop has won 4 les. Glad you can count. He's also never repeated while being assowned by Phil 4-1 in playoff series.
CIA Pooped. Yes, it was some brilliant but unknown strategy by Pop. Keep believing that. The used car salesman loves to see you coming. Now can anyone tell us why Duncan really lead the team in minutes and stayed in up 20 till the buzzer?
Kurt Thomas was out. Yes he was, his wife giving birth. Congrats.
I might agree with you, but being an asshole is a real turn off, you could've found a way to not come across as a punk.
Did you write that or was that of some article? Cuz that was kind of harsh.
Anyway, Spurs need Duncan. That team goes to when he's in the bench.
Case in point: When he had that little breather I think during the latter parts of quarter #3 or 4th Denver went on a good run without Timmy in.
Now I would agreed if we could keep teams away when the Spurs have a 10+ point lead with a quarter left but lately that's not been the case.
Seriously. Although I can see where he'd be fed up with all the melodrama and the people that jump ship after a loss, only to beam pride and happiness with the next win. I mean, if you're a fan, you stick with your team, through the ups and downs. Or at least, you're supposed to
see last few minutes of the 3rd quarter as reference as to why duncan needs to be on the floor even with a 20-pt lead.
as not so much as the team needs duncan, rather the team on the floor sans duncan don't have any idea what to do.
I figured he left Manu/Tony in till the end to help them get in game-shape.
Don't know wtf Tim was in there.
Do you really think Duncan is that fragile?
And that can't be fixed?
Or won't be fixed?
Plus he was still in the game with 2 minutes to go.
Do you really think he is that indestructable?Chump Do you really think Duncan is that fragile?
I think he can handle the minutes he has been playing.
Why do you think he can't?
like Jeff Van Gundy said a few weeks ago..minutes are overrated..I have to agree with that..just limit his work in practice and keep him on a good program to help stay as fit as possible..
Duncan's minutes will eventually go down..our offense has CLEARLY went downhill when he's on the bench, so we can't afford to have let him sit on the bench against good teams..once Parker and Ginobili get into a rhythm with the rest of the team and we start rolling, Duncan will start sitting more..
of course it's correctible with manu and tony rounding out to game shape. (though somebody needs to talk to mason about end of shot clock situations).
and this is tim we're talking about here not ian, or yao, or mcgrady, or <insert fragile player here>.
Yes I wrote that. Harsh? Well, on this board the pro Pop contingency runs very strong and the redundancy is tiresome. I really value Duncan. He was the leagues true MVP from 2002-2007 irregardless of what Kobe Sniffers fabricate and market.
I'm not sure how to quote multiple responses all at once, so more below. Thanks.
After the Saturday game spurs played on Tuesday then Denver game at Thursday and next game on Saturday
Duncan played 28 in Rockets game 40 Pistons and now 36
Giving him more rest between games is also important.
People are too much concentrated in minutes played but D'Antoni teams with 7 or 8 man rotation in the season were always fresh because of lighter practices.
Didn't Kobe just win his first mvp last year?
Theres a guy with some rings.
Pat Riley used to limit the minutes and some things Kareem did in order to extend his longevity. Riley also thinks Dunks can play, and more importantly win more les til he's 40. We watched Rileys Heat take down Dallas who took us out. Yet our roster was much better then the Heat.
As far as can Duncan handle the minutes, i dont know. I think we can all agree he seemed to lack some ooomph last years playoffs. Only in stretches, but he didnt look nearly as good as other playoff years. I do agree its not just about minutes, but about the lack of a SCORING other big to take all the pressure off him.
At the age Duncan is now, Kareem was averaging 3 more minutes per game than Duncan is this season.
Of course, Riley wasn't coaching him then.
What kind of help did he have on the frontline, and did he play the last 9 minutes of a rather average meaning game the Lakers were up 20 by with 9 minutes? Up 15 with two minutes.
Keep it in context.
we didn't close the last game out well.
Duncan can handle these minutes just fine. Yes, he usually gets less minutes but that's not because he doesn't have the endurance, or is injury prone. It is simply strategy for the post season.
Right now with the combination of new players, injuries, etc lots of Pop's "usual" stuff is being ignored/changed/experimented with(whatever you wanna call it). Despite a few higher minute games here and there I bet Tim averages 32-35 minutes which'll be just fine.
Go back and watch all the tapes for the Lakers' 79-80 season and let me know what you find out.
Keep it in context.
So you can dismiss what JVG said b/c he hasn't won a championship, but no one is allowed to cite Pop's rings to prove their own point?Theres a guy with some rings.
Be honest, do you really want an answer/discussion of your question, or are you just being a jackass?
JVGs comments cannot be discounted soley on his lack of a ring, thats true. I dismiss them because they are wrong.So you can dismiss what JVG said b/c he hasn't won a championship, but no one is allowed to cite Pop's rings to prove their own point?
Be honest, do you really want an answer/discussion of your question, or are you just being a jackass?
I want and have recieved some intelligent discussion already. As for your bull that this is Pops "usual stuff", nothing to worry about, its all good...right. Assowned by Phil 4-1 and fails to make an adjustment.
Chump go ahead and watch some of Rileys winning years with Kareem. Nice try changing the subject tho.
You're the one who made up.
It's not my fault your Kareem analogy doesn't apply because you were ignorant of the fact that Riley started coaching him when he was two years older than Duncan is now.
And and Kareem averaged 35.2 minutes that season at age 34.
Duncan's average this season so far at age 32: 35.1.
So let's keep it in context.
The context is you hate Pop. If Duncan got injured tonight you would have claimed scoreboard and celebrated.
what was the minutes average in '80 ?
I can't find it
So you do just want to be an asshole, huh? You see I'm calling you an asshole b/c instead of actually reading what i said you were obviously just rushing through so you could attempt a snappy comeback.
What i said was that this is a deviation from Pop's "usual stuff." In fact that was the whole point, its just a few games early in the season and, to quote your dumb ass, there is nothing to worry about, things really are gonna work out.
Next time you feel all worked up break a pencil or something; just don't come on here asking for opinions and then telling people what can and can't say in their own posts. Seriously your responses haven't exactly been mind bogglingly enlightening either.
And as for the 4-1 lakers series....get over it. Pop's beaten phil and phil's beaten pop. bfd
The average minutes for what/whom?
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