End of USA military dominance.

[RandomGuy]

In fairness:

Introduction :

Su-35BM will be the last developed Flanker. An final upgrade, final variant. Actually, the designation is quite confusing, since Su-35 already exists in Russian Air Force. Su-35 was the export designation for upgraded Su-27, called Su-27M, internal Sukhoi designation T-10M. Su-27M gave baseline Flanker new avionics, as well as precision air-to-ground capability. Only five of these are in service with VVS (Russian Air Force), with 237th regiment based at Kubinka Air Base. VVS chose another path instead; to incorporate technologies tested in Su-35/T-10M, together with those of Su-30MK, into an standard upgrade project for the baseline Flanker, the Su-27SM. The Su-35 designation was also used for Su-37, dubbed as “Terminator”. Aircraft was a testbed for 2D thrust-vectoring engines, mounted on Su-35/T-10M.

The Su-27 flanker, a design that has been around since 1984, is a couple generations behind the F-22, btw.

So either you are a dumbass for not knowing the difference, or a dumbass for not looking up the production figures before spouting off.

Which version of dumbass are you?

[Kobe24Forever]

In fairness:

Introduction :

Su-35BM will be the last developed Flanker. An final upgrade, final variant. Actually, the designation is quite confusing, since Su-35 already exists in Russian Air Force. Su-35 was the export designation for upgraded Su-27, called Su-27M, internal Sukhoi designation T-10M. Su-27M gave baseline Flanker new avionics, as well as precision air-to-ground capability. Only five of these are in service with VVS (Russian Air Force), with 237th regiment based at Kubinka Air Base. VVS chose another path instead; to incorporate technologies tested in Su-35/T-10M, together with those of Su-30MK, into an standard upgrade project for the baseline Flanker, the Su-27SM. The Su-35 designation was also used for Su-37, dubbed as “Terminator”. Aircraft was a testbed for 2D thrust-vectoring engines, mounted on Su-35/T-10M.

The Su-27 flanker, a design that has been around since 1984, is a couple generations behind the F-22, btw.

So either you are a dumbass for not knowing the difference, or a dumbass for not looking up the production figures before spouting off.

Which version of dumbass are you?

wiki , su-35 is the most mass produced and imported aircraft around the world, something wiki dont ever teach you little

[Kobe24Forever]

this debate will never end though, like i said just wait till 2009, we can talk more till then

[doobs]

The biggest threat Russia poses to the United States has nothing to do with American military decline. It has to do with Russian decline. Its military is falling apart. The country itself is falling apart. This is a huge country bordering Europe and China and the Middle East, and it has nuclear weapons. Scary.

Naturally, we will continue to clean up the mess left by the former Soviet Union.

[RandomGuy]

This has been fun, but it is beer and sci-fi time.

I am still waiting on Kobe to tell me about the Russian unmanned fighter program.

When US will be fielding this delta wing unmanned fighter:


...Russia will be fielding its own version of an unmanned fighter aircraft.

Top secret spies have smuggled a picture out of Russia of the current prototype, and for the first time I will post a picture of the Russian prototype seen here on a training flight:

[RandomGuy]

wiki , su-35 is the most mass produced and imported aircraft around the world, something wiki dont ever teach you little

http://www.warfare.ru/?lang=&catid=255&linkid=1606

Warfare.ru says there are only 12 of them.

Is that what passes for "mass produced" in Russia these days?

[Kobe24Forever]

This has been fun, but it is beer and sci-fi time.

I am still waiting on Kobe to tell me about the Russian unmanned fighter program.

When US will be fielding this delta wing unmanned fighter:


...Russia will be fielding its own version of an unmanned fighter aircraft.

Top secret spies have smuggled a picture out of Russia of the current prototype, and for the first time I will post a picture of the Russian prototype seen here on a training flight:

still waiting for the usa military to actually be able to fund and mass produce this experimental tech, that might turn out to be useless like the one you wasted on the lol star wars defense system, geek

[Kobe24Forever]

still waiting for the usa military to actually be able to fund and mass produce this experimental tech, that might turn out to be useless like the one you wasted on the lol star wars defense system, geek

still waiting for the usa military to actually be able to fund and mass produce this experimental tech, that might turn out to be useless like the one you wasted on the lol star wars defense system, geek

[RandomGuy]

It's been fun kid, but I seriously do hope you are smart enough to avoid the Russian army, even though you haven't demonstrated much in the way of smarts here.

I wish you well.

[chode_regulator]

i also did a little research found out it's one of those failed projects that was deployed in countries like afganistan, very enlightening.

wow you really are re ed

[Kobe24Forever]

It's been fun kid, but I seriously do hope you are smart enough to avoid the Russian army, even though you haven't demonstrated much in the way of smarts here.

I wish you well.

make sure you buy lot's of gold for ur worthless us dollar while you still can

[RandomGuy]

still waiting for the usa military to actually be able to fund and mass produce this experimental tech, that might turn out to be useless like the one you wasted on the lol star wars defense system, geek

Unmanned fighters are actually far cheaper on a per plane basis and in just about any other cost measure. That is one of the reasons that it is so revolutionary.

This technology will be one of the most important facets of keeping the military cheap.

Let me know all about the Russian program for UAV's when you get the chance. I would love to see it.

[Kobe24Forever]

Unmanned fighters are actually far cheaper on a per plane basis and in just about any other cost measure. That is one of the reasons that it is so revolutionary.

This technology will be one of the most important facets of keeping the military cheap.

Let me know all about the Russian program for UAV's when you get the chance. I would love to see it.

su-35, equal in capabilities to the f-22 though some geeks will always try to deny it, much cheaper and mass produced, enough said, lets not go to pak fa or su-47.

[Kobe24Forever]

i will let you guys argue over this, it's been good so far, and pls tell me about ur countries deficit next year, and how all the illusion of a healthy consumerism comes crumbling down, i got things to do, later chumps .

[ChumpDumper]

su-35, equal in capabilities to the f-22 though some geeks will always try to deny it, much cheaper and mass produced, enough said, lets not go to pak fa or su-47.

Dmitry Vasiliev of 'Military Export' Magazine says its the best available on the international market.

In terms of technology the new jet is second only to the American fifth generation F22 Raptor. But the American jet was primarily for domestic use and not for export, leaving the SU 35 as the most cutting edge fighter jet available on the market.

http://www.russiatoday.com/business/news/27178

Which military equipment magazine do you write for?

[Yonivore]

still waiting for the usa military to actually be able to fund and mass produce this experimental tech, that might turn out to be useless like the one you wasted on the lol star wars defense system, geek

Uhm... Missile Defense, it Kinda Works!

I'm just sayin.

For this exercise, a threat-representative target missile was launched from Kodiak, Alaska at 3:04pm (EST). This long-range ballistic target was tracked by several land- and sea-based radars, which sent targeting information to the interceptor missile. At 3:23pm (EST)the Ground-Based Interceptor was launched from the Ronald W. Reagan Missile Defense Site, located at Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif. The interceptor’s exoatmospheric kill vehicle was carried into the target’s predicted trajectory in space, maneuvered to the target, performed discrimination, and intercepted the threat warhead.

[AFBlue]

su-35, equal in capabilities to the f-22 though some geeks will always try to deny it, much cheaper and mass produced, enough said, lets not go to pak fa or su-47.

Yeah, let's not go there....since those aircraft aren't even out of the development stage!

Come back and talk about those aircraft when they're actually at full rate production and being stood up at Russian Air Bases.

The F/A-22, for example, is a fielded operational aircraft.

[ChumpDumper]

I think he's in a country that is buying some of these planes, so he wants to feel good about them.

[The Reckoning]

Naturally, we will continue to clean up the mess left by the former Soviet Union.

i remember hearing from class that it would be cheap (in taxpayer standards) to clean up and/or protect the nukes that the soviet union left hanging around.

for some reason the government hasnt been willing to do so

[RandomGuy]

i remember hearing from class that it would be cheap (in taxpayer standards) to clean up and/or protect the nukes that the soviet union left hanging around.

for some reason the government hasnt been willing to do so

Actually they have been paying the Russians for this very thing. The security situation there still sucks, but isn't as bad as it could be.