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Denver has never comeback from a 20 point lead. Not to anyone anytime. Pop knew it and so did Karl. Had they done it last night. I woulda probably done nothing.
Very True, Ive said it before. During practice Timmy just shoots the ball while the rest run through drills. Timmy is that good. Even at this age.
just by looking at a sample of the top 20 leaders..
the average in today's league is 38 minutes per game, while the average amount of minutes in 81-82 was 36.8 minutes per game..
so Duncan is playing less minutes than Kareem in a league that plays more minutes on average..
I don't understand these sorts of threads. If Pop had chosen to sit Duncan early last night and the Spurs had ceded the lead, Fabbs and others would be crucifying Pop for sitting Duncan too early. Pop, instead, keeps Duncan on his regular rotation -- ensuring that Duncan doesn't sit too long before having to re-enter the game and increasing the chance of injury -- in order to push his team to a much-needed win, and he gets crucified for playing Duncan too much.
It's awfully easy to criticize when hindsight is your ally. You know now that the Spurs didn't give up the lead, so it's really easy to say that Duncan shouldn't have played big minutes. But in the moment, when the Nuggets started to show some signs of life in the third, it was imperative that Pop bring back Duncan -- and Ginobili -- to preserve the lead and the win. Losing that game by virtue of a choice to limit Duncan's minutes would have been a horrendous result.
Yeah, and thats comforting. But Popped also played Parker the night following 55 minutes and his ankle blowout occured.
Try James Worthy and Bob Mc-A-do in the 85 Champ (and you're right, Rambo too).
87-88 besides Worthy and Rambo again in addition to Green the arsehole Spurs owner at the time gifted them Myc e Thompson. It was about as disgusting as the Gasol Collusion of 2008.
Kream sure wasn't getting it done with Fabbs and Finley at the PF spots.
i think youre too conservative. do you drive a tank to work and wear bullet proof armor?
Pop Apologist Math:
4-1 = Pop's beaten phil and phil's beaten pop.
Classic.
Resume snuggling with Dump Humper.
No, actually...no he couldn't.
To ChumpDumper:
Kareem was relatively injury-free throughout his career. Not a single knee surgery. The same cannot be said about Duncan. In fact I believe Duncan may have some sort of arthritic condition in his knee at this point. It is stupid to have Duncan play the entire 4th quarter when you have a 20 point lead.
actually, you obnoxious tool, I was referring to head to head playoff matchups between the two coaches (4-2 for phil btw). And besides that, you ignored the rest of what i said about what was supposed to be the topic(tim's minutes) and went back to your "attempt putdowns now, masturbate to pictures of Phil Jackson later" approach.
4-1 = Pop's beaten phil and phil's beaten pop.
Classic.
Go be a lakers fan if you feel so strongly about it.
Stop making crap up.
Take a break from 'bating and get your PopApologist Math right.
4-1 Phil vs Popped.
2008 Lakers, 4-1, conference finals
2004 Lakers, 4-2, conference semifinals
2003 Spurs 4-2, conference semifinals.
2002 Lakers, 4-1, conference semifinals
2001 Lakers, 4-0, conference finals
Sheep like you are a Lakers organization dream come true and a Spurs nightmare with you worship of Pop. TLongII i think we should bottle Pops farts and sell them to these clowns at 500K per bottle. They'd fight each other over who got to buy 1st.
Yes, Dunks did not need to be playing in the entire 4th and certainly not with 2 minutes to go.
Pop had four of his five starters in the game at the end. There was possibly a message in that. Far more likely is this: He spent much of the fourth quarter allowing the guards to play together in different combinations; if you go back and watch you'll see all the different combinations he tried. Considering the way they'd struggled to the previous two games, a blowout gave them time to get some familiarity together at game speed. Part of leaning to play together is going to require Timmy on the floor. Investing some time now getting the guards playing well will save Timmy minutes down the road because he won't have to carry the team.
though i didn't notice if he put tony, hill, manu, mason with duncan. i don't think he did. it was always bowen in place of one of the four guards.
Finley had a turn as well. He put Bonner in for Mason with a couple of minutes left when the Nuggets cut it to about 13. I don't think Pop's quite ready to unleash Hill, Mason, Manu, Parker and Timmy on the world, but the next game is against Don Nelson, so you never know. Personally, as good as these guards are, I don't want Manu playing the four position. Ever.
though i didn't notice if he put tony, hill, manu, mason with duncan. i don't think he did. it was always bowen in place of one of the four guards.
Posted earlier on ST
Jeff McDonald: Duncan as Kareem?
MIAMI -- Pat Riley has coached Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Pat Riley has also coached Shaquille O'Neal. Good news for Spurs fans: Pat Riley says Tim Duncan reminds him of the former, and not the latter.
"Duncan reminds me a lot of Kareem," Riley, the Miami Heat coach, said after this morning's shootaround. "Kareem wasn't a physical center, he was a finesse center. And he played until he was 41 years old."
More than that, Jabbar remained one of the league's most dominant players well into his late 30s. In 1986, at age 38, Jabbar averaged 23.4 points per game.
Riley's point: Big men like Duncan and Jabbar, who rely more on their mind and their touch than sheer physical strength and skill, tend to have a longer shelf life in the NBA.
Meanwhile, players whose main strength is their strength -- like O'Neal -- often begin to show their age much sooner. O'Neal's body has begun to betray him the past couple seasons. At age 34, he is obviously on the downslope of his Hall-of-Fame career. This preseason, O'Neal has been plagued with a strained calf muscle. (He's expected to play in tonight's game after sitting out the previous two).
But back to Kareem ...
"I didn't start coaching Kareem until he was 32 years old," Riley said. "And he played nine more years after that. And he won four more championships after that."
Riley says he wouldn't be surprised if Duncan accomplished something similar, in terms of both success and longevity. Spurs fans can only hope he's right.
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblog...onald_d_1.html
Why are you making up arthritis?
That's true if he is counting his time as Paul Westhead's assistant. I doubt he had the final say about Kareem's playing time as an assistant.
I don't think that's really the issue, at all. The issue here is there's no way he should be in the game, up double digits with 2 minutes to go. If he twisted his ankle during that that time or something crazy happened like a broken foot, every Spur fan in America would be calling for his head and he'd be the ass of every morning sports talk radio show.
If you play Duncan 2 more mpg (which won't happen) over the course of this year - that's a whopping 160 minutes over the entire season. Give him 1 practice off and you've made up the time.Theres a guy with some rings.
Pat Riley used to limit the minutes and some things Kareem did in order to extend his longevity. Riley also thinks Dunks can play, and more importantly win more les til he's 40. We watched Rileys Heat take down Dallas who took us out. Yet our roster was much better then the Heat.
As far as can Duncan handle the minutes, i dont know. I think we can all agree he seemed to lack some ooomph last years playoffs. Only in stretches, but he didnt look nearly as good as other playoff years. I do agree its not just about minutes, but about the lack of a SCORING other big to take all the pressure off him.
As it is, I think Pop just wanted to finish that game strong. The team had just played it's most complete game of the year, and I don't think he wanted it tainted by Denver cutting the lead to 6 with 15 seconds left. Besides, the team hasn't had a back-to-back since last weekend and doesn't have another until late next week.
Let them finish the rout, build a little positive momentum, and you can watch the minutes later in the year.
Seriously, you try to discount the rings in your OP, but has any current NBA coach even come close to proving that they will limit the minutes over the course of the season better than Pop? That's about the last thing that you need to worry/complain about regarding him.
But I'm not talking about minutes per game average over the course of a season as much as playing the entire 4th in a 20 pt blowout. Yes K-State, it is bothersome and "4 Rings Pop" aka as Never Repeated Pop and Phils Pop has blown it before. 2006 playoffs vs Kings we had the series wrapped up, Artest got hurt during the clinching game and the Spurs went up 15-20. It was over, the Kings were not gonna come back no way no how. MadDog Artest, injured and looking very undermedicated was obviously about ready to go off. Dumbarse Popped orders Tony back into the game. As expected, Artest went off, clobbering TP on a drive and TPs injury was severly aggrivated thus he was wrecked for the Mavs series. Kori posted that TP was seen barely able to walk between games. 60% at best vs a very speedy Devon Harris.
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